Jarryd Hayne

[aqua_duck]

I think he'll be fine. Running Back, Receiver and possibly safety.
We forget he's an elite athlete. He'll be on a roster. Mark my words.

Lol he's an elite athlete in rugby league doesn't mean he can make the switch to another code.

Running back-wrong build and running style, runs too up right and isn't build low enough to the ground, there are exceptions but most running backs have more of that Matt utai type build as it's a very punishing position which favours a more robust body type, also it's a position that has more to it than meets the eye, has to learn how to pass protect, learn how to run routes and also there's no 10m rule so you really have to understand how to run behind your blockers and pick out lanes.

Receiver-probably his best bet given his build but learning to run routes, learning how to use your hands against press coverage, learning how to high point the ball, learning how to get feet inbounds on wide throws, they're all skills that will take some learning.

Safety-forget about it, safety is a very cerebral position, it's a position that requires a lot of play recognition and involves a lot of intricacies that he won't be able to pick up in 12-18 months from scratch. It's like getting a bloke who's never played league before and trying to teach him how to be a fullback

 

[Pete Cash]

If he's giving himself 18 months he could change his build if he needed to. I mean there are running backs at his height like say Steven Jackson but hayne would be like 10 or so kilos lighter.

Of course there are all the other problems like learning how to block, picking the right lanes, etc.

 

[Noa]

Hayne's athleticism is not a game changer. He's one of the most athletic NRL players of all time, he'd be middle of the road for skill positions in the NFL. That's the truth of it

Load of shit.

As I've said many times the best nrl athletes are as good as all but the top 2-5%.

Haynes testing in Seattle which landed him in the top 5% athletically seems to bear this out and those that believe your pov wrong

 

[nick87]

i think reggie was blowing smoke up his arse

Exactly. He is at a game, as a guest of the code, what did we expect him to say? "Man, y'all ain't got nothin on us, that dude your best player? Man he ain't even practise squad material"

Of course he was blowing smoke

 

[nick87]

Load of shit.

As I've said many times the best nrl athletes are as good as all but the top 2-5%.

Haynes testing in Seattle which landed him in the top 5% athletically seems to bear this out and those that believe your pov wrong

We'll see who is right and wrong here, because if he is top 5% athletically, he will at least get a practise squad spot, but it's reported he tested top 5% in SOME categories, that's completely different to what you are suggesting

 

[DC_fan]

If he's giving himself 18 months he could change his build if he needed to. I mean there are running backs at his height like say Steven Jackson but hayne would be like 10 or so kilos lighter.

Of course there are all the other problems like learning how to block, picking the right lanes, etc.

The three RBs who lead the NFL rushing list Murray, Bell and Foster are all 6 foot or taller as is five of the top 10 rushers. So height for Hayne should not be a problem.

Neither should weight be a problem. Bears RB Matt Forte who is listed the same height as Hayne is actually a couple of pounds lighter then Hayne.

Haynes biggest problems in becoming a RB will be as you say learning how to block and picking the right running lanes, and being able to take the pounding that NFL RBs receive.

 

[Noa]

Hayne won't be a running back.

If he ever gets out of special teams it will be as a 3rd or 4th down passing option

 

[aqua_duck]

Running backs also have the shortage career span, most running backs are done by the time their in their late 20's, Hayne is 26-27, give him 2 years to learn and he's already near the expiry date for a running back age wise

 

[grouch]

Load of shit.

As I've said many times the best nrl athletes are as good as all but the top 2-5%.

Haynes testing in Seattle which landed him in the top 5% athletically seems to bear this out and those that believe your pov wrong

I agree. The elevation of NFL athletes to demigod status is laughable.

 

[aqua_duck]

I agree. The elevation of NFL athletes to demigod status is laughable.

No one is claiming they are, the point people miss is athleticism isn't enough to make it and whilst Hayne is a good athlete he's not 'freakish' enough for scouts and evaluators to sit up and say wow "did you see that guy".

 

[The_Team_Won]

Yes but not until the 2015/2016 season

 

[nick87]

I agree. The elevation of NFL athletes to demigod status is laughable.

Here's the thing
if Hayne went through the system as a NFL player, at a high school level, if he played for one of the top HS, he would have had access to better coaching and facilities than he gets right now at Parramatta

the talent is not different but the level of coaching, the facilities, and the ability to maximise that talent has a GULF of difference. There isnt a single top 50 college programmes who's facilities, and staff wouldnt easily trump every NRL club

That's why they are generally better athletes, not because of talent, but because they get the VERY best from an extremely young age. There is probably more than 100 high schools in America who spend more money on coaching, facilities and equipment for their HS team, than the Parramatta Eels do right now.

When you are talking about elite athletes, that stuff makes a tangible difference in terms of what you get out of the athlete

 

[one tree hill]

i think the better poll would be whether Hayne survives the first pre season cuts?

He has to get in a pre season squad first

 

[Dogs Of War]

There is probably more than 100 high schools in America who spend more money on coaching, facilities and equipment for their HS team, than the Parramatta Eels do right now.

THere are high schools (private) that have better facilities than the Eels.

 

[RoosTah]

I'm not all that knowledgeable on the NFL, but I've watched a bit and I do get the game, and I agree with most other people here when they say a change is possible, but will be extraordinarily difficult for him.

If he'd left at 22 he'd have been much better off, but it's still a possibility.

To be honest, as a Rugby League fan I genuinely hope he makes it, and makes it big, because I reckon that'd actually benefit the NRL and Rugby League in general in terms of raising awareness of the comp over in the US.

Just think about all the people in the states who'd be stumbling across the NRL and SOO by googling Jarryd Hayne Highlights if he were to make it in the NFL as a kick returner - the knock on effect would be more people in the world's most lucrative and most influential sporting market tuning into Origin and the NRL, which would then increase the value of the rights over there, adding more into the NRL's coffers.

From a marketing perspective, a Jarryd Hayne success in the NFL is solid gold for the NRL. The NFL shits on any other football code comp on the planet in terms of size and economic power, so the exposure would be brilliant. Heck, David Smith could even have a quiet word with Hayne to publically support the Blues back home around Origin time to get more yanks tuning in.

 

[IowaRL]

He'd make an interesting RB in a constant hurry up offense. He's got the cardio for it, could run a few teams ragged if you did it right.

 

[nick87]

He'd have to learn to hold a football properly, which is not as easy as it sounds. The way RL players carry the ball, NFL defenders are going to force a lot of fumbles on that carry

you've got guys who have played all their life and cant manage to hold a football, like QB's who cant slide. When the whistle goes, instincts take over and he'll revert back to his natural self, which is not protecting the football

 

[abpanther]

Maybe he can introduce a cut out pass on a kick return haha

 

[nick87]

It'd be really REALLY interesting to see what someone like Chip Kelly could do with his skill set if some how he managed to be a productive player

Imagine if he goes over there and is just a natural KR, proved himself capable of being a capable #3 WR, got a roster spot and contributed to a team, and then you get him in pads and he can throw these bullet like laterals. You could line him up at RB, hand the ball off, have the WR step back and let the CB contain, then have Hayne throw a lateral to the now open WR :lol: It could get crazy

I mean he's got a skill set that if he some how managed to prove himself useful, could be very interesting in the right hands

 

[T.S Quint]

My brother lives in the US and is getting a lot of people asking him about Hayne.
Some are people that don't even really watch the NFL. This is getting a lot more exposure over there than I expected. I didn't think it would register a blip on their radar to be honest, especially halfway through the season.