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Jason Bulgarelli: A journey

Chippo Raiders

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You are a loon and thats just up to the first comma in your post.....

Bulgarelli for me, my judgement for 2004 had nothing to do with that incident, you are what I like to call a CANBERRA RAIDERS NUFF NUFF, I was open minded in 2004 but he sucked all the time.
 

Raider_69

Post Whore
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Hey geraldo, what was Jas like as a kid? did he give his old man a bit of curry, seems to be that type, little terror i bet... you must be proud

Geraldo Bulgarelli - Father of the year
 

Chippo Raiders

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Raider_69 said:
Hey geraldo, what was Jas like as a kid? did he give his old man a bit of curry, seems to be that type, little terror i bet... you must be proud

Geraldo Bulgarelli - Father of the year
This ass**** is new he is trying to stir s*** up. He registered today......and will be booted tomorrow :lol:
 

jed

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geraldo said:
I think Boogs was a good player, as good as any of the rest of em this year,
you're entitled to your opinion

geraldo said:
and for the money he was paid, which I know that I earn more in an administrative job, then I think they got more than their value for money out of him.
just how do you know how much he was paid?

geraldo said:
I also think it's crazy to hold a grudge against a player for dropping the ball once. You would have forgotten about it if it were Wikki, Davico, O'hara (as they all do it!). Move on tardo.
yes, I agree he dropped the ball once. and then a second time. and a third, fourth, fifth, and so on. I have up counting once I'd run out of fingers & toes. and yes, other players drop the ball from time to time, but no-one ranks up there with Bulgarelli, not by a long shot.

geraldo said:
And as for Thickhead's comment about the club's reputation being damaged because of Boogs, everyone knows that the club has big problems and are losing respect for the way they treat their players.
You think you know how they treat their players, and while we've lost a lot of names this season, each is a different case, each with a different set of events that let to the final outcome.

geraldo said:
Once the truth comes out (after the police establish that there is no link between the package & Jason), who are you going to blame for your dodgy club's bad rep then?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
You're making an assumption here that Bulgarelli's innocent, and that the club has either made a rash decision without thinking of the legal ramifications, or that they have attempted to frame Boogs to get out of paying him for the last year of his contract.

:roll: Dickhead!
 

Bay56

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Guys guys guys .... no one on this forum sems to like the slightest bit of criticism aimed at the club.

I used to know a Geraldo but he is now dead so he cant be the same. But something tells me this guy is in the know. I just hope that management hasnt gone of the handle and have done their homework with respect to boog's sacking.

Jed .. you called him a dickhead ... what will that make you if his comments are eventually proven to be correct.
 

Bay56

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Chippo Raiders said:
criticism is ok, but proof and in your case solutions are required

Solutions .. the old solutions arguement ... at least one one thing I've done is recognised that there is a problem ... most on this forum have not even got that far :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

geraldo

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You only have to compare player stats to discover you don't know what you're talking about. www.nrl.com.au is where you'll find them. :shock:

I can't answer your questions about Jason's family life, however you can read several interviews with mark mclinden recently who defends Jason's character. I would tend to think mark mclinden would know what he's talking about, but then again, maybe we should all listen to you instead.

Do you at least acknowledge that Jason was sacked before the police had even interviewed him about the so called drug package? Do you understand it has not yet been proven that Jason had any connection with the drug package? Again you will find several reports, including interviews with David Riolo and the ACT police to help you answer these questions.

I said nothing about boogs being 'framed' but you may be onto something! I think we can all agree that you don't sack anyone, convict anyone until you have proven that they are guilty. Even a rapist gets a fairer go than that. Now that is keeping an open mind my friend ;-)
 

Bay56

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Geraldo ... you must understand that having an opinion on this forum with an underlying sentiment of criticism aimed at management or coach will not gain you too many brownie points.

I tend to agree with your comments. Many on this forum will now call me a nego. If that means I have an open mind on this issue I'll take the call.
 

geraldo

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Thanks for your advice, although I'm not here to make friends and I don't think you should really be concerned about what most of these morons think of you. You seem far too intelligent, I'm surprised you've stuck with them for so long.

The thing is, someone will need to take responsibility for what has happened here. Someone's life has been turned upside down and for the moment it is for no good reason. That is serious stuff and if it is proven that the management (I didn't say anything about the coach) have made a mistake (which I can almost guarantee you they have), then they will need to cop the criticism and cough up a very healthy apology.

The web have had very good reports so if you really are interested in finding out the truth then check the news sites regularly - they've been fairly accurate in their reporting so far, apart from putting the wrong photo (they used Rod Jensen's photo instead of Jason's which is a terrible thing to do and I'm sure that will be another story in itself).
 

legend

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I think everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise, regardless of how shit he is/was as a player.

I feel sorry for him in a way because as a player, I'd be ticked off to read all the criticisms and I have been one of the worst, if not the worst.

Boogs from what I know is a good bloke but his ability is not of a first grade standard and his desire to run onto the ball at 200km/h saw him lose the ball more often than he held it. Sure he tried hard, but I cringed every time he got the ball through fear of him spilling, which he did more often than not.
 

Bay56

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legend said:
I think everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise, regardless of how sh*t he is/was as a player.

I feel sorry for him in a way because as a player, I'd be ticked off to read all the criticisms and I have been one of the worst, if not the worst.

Boogs from what I know is a good bloke but his ability is not of a first grade standard and his desire to run onto the ball at 200km/h saw him lose the ball more often than he held it. Sure he tried hard, but I cringed every time he got the ball through fear of him spilling, which he did more often than not.

I agree with those comments legend but that's not the real issue here.

The bigger issue here is one of possible wrongful dismissal, not of boog's ability as a footballer. Quite frankly I'm glad to see him leave the club but not under these circumstances.

As I said before I hope management have done their homework otherwise they have tainted the character of someone who I understand is quite a nice guy.

You know what side of the ledger my opinions of management lie, which gives me an initial view that they may have completely misjudged this issue .... I like every other Raiders supporter hope they have not. I'm sure we shall all find out in the very near future.
 
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Let's not forget that they had a month to come to this decision, I'm sure they didn't make it lightly. Hopefully it doesn't come back to haunt the club and that the decision was justified.
 

geraldo

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Actually, according to game stats, several other players consistently dropped the ball more often and were earning a much higher salary. Shifofske had so many brain explosions himself this year, crucial sin-binnings, just unacceptable for a player of his experience and salary.

Anyway, again all of this is petty stuff and at the end of the day it's the qualified selectors that we rely on to decide who's crap and who's not. In my opinion the team would have done a lot better this year if the players were happy and from what I've heard there have been a lot of behind-the-scenes problems which is why all the good players wanted to f**k off out of there.

Don't you think it's odd that the club have released information now about Bulgarelli admitting to smoking pott before his first season with the Raiders? Since then the club has renewed his contract twice and awarded him with rookie of the year. The pott in 2002 can therefore not be linked to his sacking so why did the club take that story to the media? It looks to me as though they are trying to paint him as a drug user when it wasn't even an issue back then.
 

jed

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gerry, are you suggesting that the club should be powerless to sack players until police investigations are concluded? we all know that some of these cases drag on for months. should they be forced to just sit idly by? if the club had a good faith basis for sacking him, and were convinced that their decision was legally sound, then I'm in agreement with the club.
 

Bay56

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jed said:
gerry, are you suggesting that the club should be powerless to sack players until police investigations are concluded? we all know that some of these cases drag on for months. should they be forced to just sit idly by? if the club had a good faith basis for sacking him, and were convinced that their decision was legally sound, then I'm in agreement with the club.

jed how do you know that is the case.
 
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