Jason Cayless

[Lowey3]

What can us Saints fans expect to see from this guy ?

Is he a world class prop like some people suggest ?

I personally can't wait for his arrivel.

 

[Weasels Ripped My Flesh]

He's a great starting prop - doesn't do anything flashy, just takes the ball up strong and makes those crucial tackles. Very consistant.

 

[League Freak™]

A hard worker, good mobility, very good defender.

He is a classic modern day Rugby League prop forward.

 

[ledzep]

he was probably the form prop in the first few round of the competition

 

[bartman]

Has potential to be the best prop in the competition. Depends on what attitude he brings over, but I'd say he's young enough to be hungry on the paddock (and not just for the money) should so be good value for Saints.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

Has potential to be the best prop in the competition. Depends on what attitude he brings over, but I'd say he's young enough to be hungry on the paddock (and not just for the money) should so be good value for Saints.

Because he went for the opportunity? :roll:

In my opinion he's the best prop in the game, but he's there for the wrong reasons so don't expect too much.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Jason Cayless is a brilliant prop. Roosters turned him from a Premier League benchie destined to live in his brothers shadows into a brilliant allround prop in both defence & go forward. He is a tough customer, nearly 110 KG, can put on big hits when required (RD 1 vs Souths - Cayless v Scott Logan, Clash Of The Titans), & to all Parra fans who continue to d--kride all their players, saying they are the perfect team, Jason Cayless is a MUCH better player than his brother, who is a good leader but nothing more than solid prop/backrower.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

Jason Cayless is a brilliant prop. Roosters turned him from a Premier League benchie destined to live in his brothers shadows into a brilliant allround prop in both defence & go forward. He is a tough customer, nearly 110 KG, can put on big hits when required (RD 1 vs Souths - Cayless v Scott Logan, Clash Of The Titans), & to all Parra fans who continue to d--kride all their players, saying they are the perfect team, Jason Cayless is a MUCH better player than his brother, who is a good leader but nothing more than solid prop/backrower.

He'd also be ours if you scummy Roosters didn't jump in and throw the good bucks at him. You didn't make him, he was always going to be a great player but the Roosters just threw the dollars at him at a young age, as usual.

He wasn't a premier league benchie either, he was a first grade benchie with us who could not crack the 17 consistently during 2001 because we had the best side in Rugby League that year. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

 

[bartman]

Because he went for the opportunity? :roll:

Nah, just saying some people might go for the money, but will also put in the effort on the field each week. I think and hope Jason will be one of those type of players... not one that just banks the paycheck and sometimes goes missing when most needed (Stephen Kearney?).

To be honest Jamie Lyon has surprised me in that regard, and has been busting his arse for his club over here, regardless of the money aspect. So that's a role model for Jason from within his own future team.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

He'd also be ours if you scummy Roosters didn't jump in and throw the good bucks at him. You didn't make him, he was always going to be a great player but the Roosters just threw the dollars at him at a young age, as usual.

He wasn't a premier league benchie either, he was a first grade benchie with us who could not crack the 17 consistently during 2001 because we had the best side in Rugby League that year. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

ParraDude_Jay...when i was saying about Parra fans who overrate their own players, i wasn't directing it at you, because we share the common opinion that big JC is the best prop in the NRL (or was :s). He was good with Parra, but Ricky's fitness regime turned him into a genuine star. Knights had Anthony Tupou, & all their fans claim they made him, but he was a Flegg player who tipped in at about 130 KG, & had absolutely ZERO mobility. Ricky's fitness regime turned him into a genuine tackle-busting forward with great ball skills, and i believe he is a genuine international prospect in years to come. I don't agree with everything Ricky does (the Crocker-Wing hookiing combo worked yet Ricky still discarded of it, playing Tupou at prop instead of as a wide-running backrower, not giving the Paea's enough chances, keeping Finch in FG & leaving Soward in PL), but he is a fitness freak, which helped s be the best defensive unit in the competition 2002-2004.

No beef man, i don't want to start a fight or anything, i actually liked Parra this year, Fuifui is a dead set champion, & i found a liking to your Premier League team, who were VERY impressive in their Grand Final.

 

[Lowey3]

Because he went for the opportunity? :roll:

In my opinion he's the best prop in the game, but he's there for the wrong reasons so don't expect too much.

You all said the same about Jamie Lyon.

Do Eels fans always knock their ex players ? and wish for the worst.

 

[bartman]

I was lucky, I missed most of the Jamie situation. The last Parra game I attended was Jamie's last game for the club in March 2004, before I flew out from Syndey. Absolutley smacked by the Bulldogs, and Jamie (along with many others) was ordinary that day.

So I probably wasn't as immediately efffected as other Eels fans in the weeks that followed, but I know this much pretty much for sure, that he got some really bad advice from a "mentor" at the time. I'm willing to admit he was just probably a young man trusting in the wrong people at the wrong time, but most Parra fans understandably feel dirty that he attempted to flout a contract by appearing with Manly players in their gear and enclosure whilst trying to negotiate his release from a recently signed Parra contract.

I personally am happy he busted a gut for St Helens instead of just bludging and just taking the money. But that's probably because I live in the UK and can appreciate the benefits to the competition here in opposition to just seeing the cost to Parra at the time.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

ParraDude_Jay...when i was saying about Parra fans who overrate their own players, i wasn't directing it at you, because we share the common opinion that big JC is the best prop in the NRL (or was :s). He was good with Parra, but Ricky's fitness regime turned him into a genuine star. Knights had Anthony Tupou, & all their fans claim they made him, but he was a Flegg player who tipped in at about 130 KG, & had absolutely ZERO mobility. Ricky's fitness regime turned him into a genuine tackle-busting forward with great ball skills, and i believe he is a genuine international prospect in years to come. I don't agree with everything Ricky does (the Crocker-Wing hookiing combo worked yet Ricky still discarded of it, playing Tupou at prop instead of as a wide-running backrower, not giving the Paea's enough chances, keeping Finch in FG & leaving Soward in PL), but he is a fitness freak, which helped s be the best defensive unit in the competition 2002-2004.

No beef man, i don't want to start a fight or anything, i actually liked Parra this year, Fuifui is a dead set champion, & i found a liking to your Premier League team, who were VERY impressive in their Grand Final.

I'm not starting a fight mate, but I think the Roosters claim too much. Jason was always going to be great, he just needed time and unfortunately there were too many clubs interested in him for Parramatta to compete. Plus we had N Cayless and Vella who were the best front row all year.

The Roosters just developed his mobility and helped him get a bit fitter, but that isn't 100% of why he's so great, because even without it he'd still be a very damaging player.

I just disagree you turned him from a premier league benchie (which he never was) into a superstar, he was always going to be a superstar, the Roosters just helped him along. And that's why I'm mad you're letting him leave, whatever Finch is being paid should have been offered to Jason on top of their final offer to him because he's worth every cent. Very silly mistake on their part.

 

[playdaball]

Very good player that the Kiwis desperately miss.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

I'm not starting a fight mate, but I think the Roosters claim too much. Jason was always going to be great, he just needed time and unfortunately there were too many clubs interested in him for Parramatta to compete. Plus we had N Cayless and Vella who were the best front row all year.

The Roosters just developed his mobility and helped him get a bit fitter, but that isn't 100% of why he's so great, because even without it he'd still be a very damaging player.

I just disagree you turned him from a premier league benchie (which he never was) into a superstar, he was always going to be a superstar, the Roosters just helped him along. And that's why I'm mad you're letting him leave, whatever Finch is being paid should have been offered to Jason on top of their final offer to him because he's worth every cent. Very silly mistake on their part.

I am positively FURIOUS that we let him leave! He is still young, has plenty of years ahead of him, is virtually error free & on a few occasions this year he has been our best on the park (in our second meeting with the Knights - Rd 17 - 35 Tackles, 2 Misses, 1 Offload, 0 Errors, 24 Hitups for 218 Metres in 65 Minutes on the field). In a thread on the Roosters forum i started, where fans were to decide their best Roosters team from 1980-2005, Jason Cayless appeared more often than not, & in his absence, we are now forced to blood a raw youngster very early in the season (with George Rose & Ben Hannant departing, along with Mark Edmondson, Charlie Tonga & Glenn Hall all being questionable, alot is placed on the shoulders of David Shillington - i prefer Tupou, Fa'aoso & Paea as backrowers). Finch is a nuff-nuff, & i wish we would give Soward a run next year with Anasta.