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SnowDragon

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Throwing in another curve ball

How about the other victim?
The Saints as a club and there supports!

By my current understanding, the club MUST pay wages to JDB, must support him, train him etc. But are denied his services due to a retroactive ruling by the NRL.
Surely if the NRL (or should I say ARL?) wants to implement such ruling for the benefit of the game, it should pay for that right!

The only counter argument is that clubs should employ better people, and control them better. But there was nothing I’m aware of in his history, and he was effectively in his off season at the time. Due diligence in training and education was conducted. What else can the club realistically (and legally) do?

And to add a little more. The timing of the decisions seem to be totally screwed up. We won’t know until the last day or so if he is playing round 1. This could have all been handled months ago.
 

SaintPauli

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Assuming Jack is training with squad and will be mentally fit to play ???
What's dragons view on this?
 

2012....Sharks Year

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The problem is that De Belin is not an employee of the NRL or ARLC, that is why they asked SGI to stand him down. As De Belin has not been reported for an indiscretion on the field, the ARLC and NRL have no right to stand him down.

However, if a rule was included in his contract or if the ARLC/NRL sat down and negotiated a deal with De Belin, the NRL/ARLC may get De Belin to agree to voluntarily stand down.
While technically Jack is not employed by the Nrl they do pay 110% of his salary through the salary cap. Jack is absolutely entitled to his innocence until proven guilty or otherwise but you have to wonder at what price. From the day that Jack was charged (13/12) until today (7/3)...Dragons memberships are down 43% on the corresponding period from last year. While it's not helped by the media circus that will continue and only get worse I hope the Dragons are aware of the potential damage to their brand. (As a Sharks supporter i know all about that shit!)
 

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NRL says Jack de Belin has not been suspended ... yet
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    The NRL says Jack de Belin has not been suspended as a new rule has not yet been enacted but it is expected to be brought in before the 2019 competition starts.

    St George Illawarra star Jack de Belin has not yet been suspended by the NRL despite widespread public statements to the contrary, a judge has been told.

    Alan Sullivan QC, for the NRL and the Australian Rugby League Commission, said the proposed new rule and policy to stand down players charged with a serious criminal offence had not yet been enacted.

    The truth is, nothing is in place at the moment. It is damaging to him as a professional and as an individual.

    "There's nothing to stop him playing rugby league from (between) now and the time the rule is enacted," he said on Thursday.

    De Belin is suing the NRL and ARLC in the Federal Court in Sydney over their representations that on February 28 he was suspended on full pay, having previously pleaded not guilty to raping a 19-year-old woman in Wollongong.

    The NSW State of Origin lock claims they did not have the power to suspend him and that they engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct.

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    Read more: Jack de Belin challenges NRL's power to suspend him over criminal charge

    De Belin wants the court to permanently restrain the NRL and commission from inserting the new rule into the NRL Rules

    Mr Sullivan said de Belin was not presently suspended although the new rule was expected to be brought in before the start of the 2019 NRL competition next week.

    Justice Stephen Rares said NRL material had suggested de Belin had been stood down when in fact he had not.

    "There is no entitlement to stand him down from what you have told me," he said.

    "The truth is, nothing is in place at the moment. It is damaging to him as a professional and as an individual."

    The case was adjourned to March 12 by which time the new rule may be in place.

    Australian Associated Press
https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...-de-belin-has-not-been-suspended-yet/?cs=3713
 

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Federal Court adjourns de Belin hearing until Thursday
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Thu 7 Mar 2019, 06:36 PM

A legal challenge by St George Illawarra forward Jack de Belin to the NRL's planned no-fault stand down policy has been held over until next Thursday.

The ARL Commission announced last week it had approved the automatic standing down of any player facing charges carrying a maximum sentence of 11 years' jail time or more, with players unable to take the field until legal matters are finalised.

They are permitted to remain training with their team and receive full pay. De Belin returned to training with St George Illawarra on Tuesday after initially being granted time away by the club.

As the rule has not yet been formalised, the Federal Court adjourned the hearing until next Thursday.

Alan Sullivan, QC, who was representing the ARL Commission in court, said there was "nothing to stop him playing rugby league from now and the time the rule is enacted".

He said de Belin was not technically suspended as it stands but the new rule was expected to be up and running before the Telstra Premiership gets underway with next Thursday night’s Storm-Broncos clash in Melbourne.

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NRL CEO Todd Greenberg. :copyright:Grant Trouville/NRL Photos
NRL CEO Todd Greenberg reiterated the timeline for the ARLC's drafting of the no-fault stand down policy in a brief media address at the game's season launch on Thursday night.

"It's nothing that we hadn't expected and given it's a matter before the courts I can't say much more," Greenberg said of de Belin's court action at Bondi Beach.

"It was always the decision of the commission to change the policy.

"They need to draft the rule and that's exactly the timeframe we're on, that will happen next week."

De Belin is appealing to the court to prevent the NRL and the ARL Commission from enacting the rule.

Justice Stephen Rares said there was currently "no entitlement to stand him down".

The case was adjourned to March 12 by which time the new rule may be in place.

The St George Illawarra lock has pleaded not guilty to charges of aggravated sexual assault in court in Wollongong following an incident in December.

Dragons captain Gareth Widdop said de Belin's return to training this week was a positive move as he and his teammates prepare to start their season without the NSW Origin forward.

"Obviously it's not ideal for him, my main concern as a friend and as a captain is his welfare," Widdop told NRL.com.

"That's the most important thing from that perspective.

"All I know is that Jack's not available at the moment. This has all been dealt with on our end, it's before the courts and all we can focus on now is the season that's only a week away."

The Dragons kick off their season next Saturday night against the Cowboys in Townsville.


https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/07/federal-court-adjourns-jack-de-belin-hearing-until-thursday/
 

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Dragons star Jack de Belin free to play Round one unless NRL enacts ‘no fault’ policy
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  • March 7, 2019 11:41pm
  • by Staff writers with AAP
  • Source: FOX SPORTS
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St George Illawarra Dragons player Jack de Belin is taking the NRL to court over his playing ban.Source: AAP
The judge presiding over Dragons star Jack de Belin’s Federal Court bid to overturn his ban says the forward will be free to play round one unless the NRL enacts it’s ‘no fault’ policy.

De Belin claims he wasn’t validly suspended by the NRL after being charged with rape, contending the league engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct.

The 27-year-old’s matter was heard in court on Thursday for a preliminary hearing.


Justice Stephen Rares said NRL material had suggested de Belin had been stood down when in fact he had not.

“There is no entitlement to stand him down from what you have told me,” he said.

“The truth is, nothing is in place at the moment. It is damaging to him as a professional and as an individual.”

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Martin Einfeld QC Jack De Belin's barrister pictured as he arrives at Federal Court, Sydney. Picture by Damian ShawSource: News Corp Australia

The case was adjourned to March 12 by which time the new rule may be in place.

Alan Sullivan QC, for the NRL and the Australian Rugby League Commission, said the proposed new rule and policy to stand down players charged with a serious criminal offence had not yet been enacted.

“There’s nothing to stop him playing rugby league from (between) now and the time the rule is enacted,” he said on Thursday.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg said on Thursday the league will have rules in place to stand down Jack de Belin within the next 48 hours, after admitting it had yet to enact its own edict.

“The commission endorsed a policy decision last week. We then need to write the rule, that will be done in the next 48 hours and from there we let the courts make their decision,” Greenberg said.

Sullivan told the court he expects the policy will be in effect before the Dragons’ opening clash against the Cowboys on Saturday week.

As of right now, Jack de Belin is free to play in round one, because the NRL has not yet introduced an actual rule to stand him down. The NRL will look to have said rule in place next week, but as it doesn’t yet exist, De Belin can’t legally be stood down.@FOXSportsNews

— cody kaye (@Cody_KayeFOX) March 7, 2019
In documents filed with the court, de Belin states the bodies did not have the power to suspend him on full pay on February 28, purportedly under a new rule allowing players charged with a serious criminal offence to be stood down so they can’t take part in the NRL competition.


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Full details of de Belin case

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De Belin and Callan Sinclair, 21, have pleaded not guilty to raping a 19-year- old woman in Wollongong on December 9 and are due back in court on April 17.

De Belin claims the NRL and ARLC engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct by claiming they had the power to suspend him and by making a number of public comments.

They include suggesting they had “formed a view that de Belin was guilty” of the rape and had “engaged in conduct that warranted his immediate suspension as a player for the club”.

“The suspension representation was made in press releases, social media, on www.nrl.com, in television, radio and newspaper interviews by Peter Beattie and Todd Greenberg published in every state and territory of Australia,” the court documents state.

The judge also reprimanded Beattie, a former politician, in his handling of the standing down.

“It’s not as though Mr Beattie is not an experienced man with words,” he said.

“It is suggesting that this player has been stood down and he hasn’t… that would be pretty damaging for anybody.”

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Robert Tassell, Jack De Belin's lawyer, pictured as he arrives at Federal Court. Picture by Damian ShawSource: News Corp Australia
The player says this caused irreparable damage to his reputation and financial loss.

He is seeking an order that the NRL and ARLC immediately issue a press release and place corrective advertising in numerous newspapers stating: “The NRL has not suspended St George Illawarra player Jack de Belin. He is available to play for St George Illawarra”.


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De Belin to fight NRL ban

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De Belin is seeking damages, compensation and legal costs, as well as a string of court declarations including that the two bodies engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct and unconscionable conduct.

He also wants an order permanently restraining them from inserting the new rule into the NRL Rules or NRL Code of Conduct, claiming it is unreasonable and contrary to public policy.

Under the old policy, players who pleaded not guilty to serious charges were allowed to continue playing until their case was finalised in court.

His lawyers say neither body had any material to enable them to determine de Belin was guilty of rape or in breach of the NRL Code of Conduct.

But for the “threatened suspension”, de Belin intends playing in the first 2019 match on March 16 and in matches through the year and 2020, and to make himself available for representative selection including for State of Origin, the documents state.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...n/news-story/9ca75a4a1aea3f8ca39dcbc42c244e82
 

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NRL360 panel take aim at ‘incompetent’ NRL handling of Jack de Belin situation
The NRL have had an off-season from hell but the league was quick to celebrate its solution to the problem. Until today.

Andrew McMurtry
news.com.auMarch 7, 20198:01pm

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The NRL has taken yet another huge hit after a federal court judge said St George Illawarra Dragons star Jack de Belin could play in round one as the NRL rules currently stood.

The ARL commission’s “no-fault” policy was announced last week but the Dragons player took the ARL and NRL to court today to challenge his suspension.

Justice Stephen Rares said NRL material had suggested de Belin had been stood down when in fact he had not.

“There is no entitlement to stand him down from what you have told me,” Justice Rares said.

“The truth is, nothing is in place at the moment. It is damaging to him as a professional and as an individual.”

Speaking on NRL 360, the panel was frustrated with the NRL’s attempt to enforce a rule that doesn’t exist.

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St. George Illawarra Dragons player Jack de Belin is suing the NRL and ARL Commission.Source:AAP

With the decision to stand de Belin down, ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie defended the process of establishing the rule.

“We didn’t get it wrong, what we said last week was that we had approved the policy at the commission meeting and then Todd (Greenberg) and the NRL would draft the rule and it would be in place before the season starts,” Beattie said. “What we said we would do we will actually do.

“We need to get it drafted, we need to get the best legal advice, which we have, we need to consult with the Player’s Association.”

Beattie was also asked about the decision of the Judge Rares, who said discussion of the new policy had damaged de Belin’s reputation.

He did say “it will be in place next Thursday”.

“At the end of the day, as chairman of the commission, I’m responsible for it,” Beattie said.

“But the reality is, this is difficult to manage. We had to get the policy in place, which we've done and then when the policy was finalised, we had to get the rule drafted. You can’t do it any faster than that, it doesn’t matter whether you’re Einstein or whoever. You can’t do it any faster than that.”

However, NRL 360 host Paul Kent took aim at league for the slow process.

“Even when the NRL try to do the right thing, they can’t get it right,” Kent said.

“Essentially what it is, Jack de Belin signs a contract, where he agrees, as every NRL player does, to abide by the rules of the NRL. So the NRL are going to change the rule and always intended to have the rule changed by March 14 when the competition kicks off — they just haven’t got around to it yet.

“So Jack de Belin is challenging the rule the NRL currently doesn’t have in place. But the NRL is confident that when they get around to next week, it will be place therefore he’ll be stood down.

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The NRL season launch is being overshadowed by the off-season talk.Source:News Corp Australia

“This is embarrassing for the game that they cannot get this right, that they’re trying to now play cute and say we always intended to have the rule in place. It’s incompetence.”

Fellow host Ben Ikin was also frustrated by the development.

“If the rule wasn’t in place, why come out and beat your chest?” Ikin said “If it was going to take time, why not be honest?”

The Daily Telegraph’s Phil Rothfield said the NRL has been hurt by the ARLC’s decision with not enough time to organise the new rule.

“I think the NRL are the victim of the urgency of the independent commission meeting that introduced this proposal,” Rothfield said.

“They are painfully slow, they painfully thorough, and the reason being is they got the independent legal advice before the independent commission meeting that it was in their rights to stand down Jack de Belin and other players allegedly damaging the image of the game.

“The game has never been under siege like it has been the last month. They had to make a decision that would satisfy the public and do it very quickly. They took legal advice, they drew up a proposal which needed some finer detail before it was introduced as a rule.”

Rothfield also blamed budget cuts in the NRL, mentioning that $1 million had been earmarked to help strengthen the NRL Integrity Unit.

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NRL Captains at the 2019 NRL launch at Bondi Icebergs.Source:News Corp Australia

However, Ikin hit back after the NRL made a record revenue of $499.9m, a $42.8m surplus according to the NRL.

“If you are budgeting to make a $50 million surplus, spending an extra $1 million in your business where it counts should be a no-brainer,” he said.

Overall, Kent said there could have been a simple solution to the “embarrassing” situation.

“Peter Beattie indicated that he was always aware something like this could happen,” Kent said.

“We have the season launch tonight for the game, it gets completely overshadowed by court action today. We have the first game next Thursday, which will be completely overshadowed by the court action with Jack de Belin.

“Why didn’t somebody say to Jack de Belin and his representatives, ‘listen, no point in taking us to court on these two counts because by the time we start in round one, we will have written the rule’. Right now, Jack de Belin is 100 per cent in the right legally here.”

“This could have all been avoided with a phone call.”


https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/n...n/news-story/ee2ec85416f02e3938d2d495df6495e8
 

Capital_Dragon

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Its been said here a million times already, however the fact is the only body with the right to judge DeBelin is the court. Full stop.

For a criminal case, absolutely. But every single employer in Australia has the legal right to have a code of conduct that includes the right to investigate and suspend employees. And many of them include being charged with a serious offence as grounds for suspension.

So provided any process that does that is fair and allows for natural justice, it is legally enforcable.
 

Frank Facer

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I am unclear on something. The judge said that Debelin could play in round 1, as the NRL rules currently stood, but others are saying that when the NRL officially introduces their new policy that they will be able to then stand him down. Will the judge have the right to say that the NRL doesn't have the right to stand DeBelin down after they introduce their new rules? Or will the the NRL have the right to stand him down, even though they made the rule after the event? Can DeBelin win his case and still be stood down by the NRL? Could he receive damages and still be stood down?
 

Brutalitops

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I am unclear on something. The judge said that Debelin could play in round 1, as the NRL rules currently stood, but others are saying that when the NRL officially introduces their new policy that they will be able to then stand him down. Will the judge have the right to say that the NRL doesn't have the right to stand DeBelin down after they introduce their new rules? Or will the the NRL have the right to stand him down, even though they made the rule after the event? Can DeBelin win his case and still be stood down by the NRL? Could he receive damages and still be stood down?
They simply ruled they can't stand him down YET as the NRL haven't officially implemented the policy yet so unless they enforce it before next week they have no right to stand him down.

They will enforce it next week, and then on Thursday a judge will rule on the policy AFTER it's it's offically enforced.
 

Frank Facer

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They simply ruled they can't stand him down YET as the NRL haven't officially implemented the policy yet so unless they enforce it before next week they have no right to stand him down.

They will enforce it next week, and then on Thursday a judge will rule on the policy AFTER it's it's offically enforced.
It is going to be very interesting to see if the judge rules that the NRL can't stand him down.
 
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They simply ruled they can't stand him down YET as the NRL haven't officially implemented the policy yet so unless they enforce it before next week they have no right to stand him down.

They will enforce it next week, and then on Thursday a judge will rule on the policy AFTER it's it's offically enforced.

What is currently unclear is whether the commissioners have been given the discretion to make new rules without the need to have all stakeholders vote on proposed changes to rules.

I suspect that Beattie does not require the ratification of all stakeholders, given his public stance.

So the question to be answered on Thursday is whether the new policy is unreasonable and contrary to public policy.

It certainly contradicts public policy.

However, I don't feel the policy in itself is unreasonable, hence the wording of the rule will be crucial to the ultimate result.
 

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What is so evident in how badly the NRL is run having these dopes in charge. We have a guy that left the Dogs in a mess, the master of sweeping stuff under the carpet when it suits him and the other who does not even know the actual teams that are in the NRL. And most here think the Dragons organisation is run bad. Doust would do a better job that is for sure.

Anyone remember the Coffs Harbour and Sharks incidents in NZ which Matt Johns was involved in? A whole bunch of players not 1 were involved and they were mostly 1st graders. They were far worse cases if not similar to the JDB case is and the game seemed to moved on at the time and let the courts handle it.. A tougher situation handled far better than this. How can you apply a rule on someone without it being in place? That shows someone is in a rush to destabilise a club and its supporters. It shows bias in my opinion, That is not just a simple misjudgement, this wreaks of someone who is clueless and with agendas against the Dragons.

Did anyone also hear what Beattie said about the Salary Cap compensation Saints will get? He said they need to apply for it. He said Saints have not called them yet so nothing is happening. So they are quick to suspend JDB for a rule not in place to destabilise the club, and slow to compensate them again to leave them in the hole without a player. I remember reading "NRL to compensate clubs for Salary Cap with new rule in place" , not Clubs to seek cap relief for new rule in place". Let me guess, they will apply and require a full process that takes months to get the go ahead and by that time there will be a new rule where there is a freeze on player transfers......

They should seriously throw money at Gallop and get him back. Since he left the game has gone to $hite. He would never let this happen. He was great for the game and the more we see from this pathetic group the better he looks.
 

The Damo

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What is so evident in how badly the NRL is run having these dopes in charge. We have a guy that left the Dogs in a mess, the master of sweeping stuff under the carpet when it suits him and the other who does not even know the actual teams that are in the NRL. And most here think the Dragons organisation is run bad. Doust would do a better job that is for sure.

Anyone remember the Coffs Harbour and Sharks incidents in NZ which Matt Johns was involved in? A whole bunch of players not 1 were involved and they were mostly 1st graders. They were far worse cases if not similar to the JDB case is and the game seemed to moved on at the time and let the courts handle it.. A tougher situation handled far better than this. How can you apply a rule on someone without it being in place? That shows someone is in a rush to destabilise a club and its supporters. It shows bias in my opinion, That is not just a simple misjudgement, this wreaks of someone who is clueless and with agendas against the Dragons.

Did anyone also hear what Beattie said about the Salary Cap compensation Saints will get? He said they need to apply for it. He said Saints have not called them yet so nothing is happening. So they are quick to suspend JDB for a rule not in place to destabilise the club, and slow to compensate them again to leave them in the hole without a player. I remember reading "NRL to compensate clubs for Salary Cap with new rule in place" , not Clubs to seek cap relief for new rule in place". Let me guess, they will apply and require a full process that takes months to get the go ahead and by that time there will be a new rule where there is a freeze on player transfers......

They should seriously throw money at Gallop and get him back. Since he left the game has gone to $hite. He would never let this happen. He was great for the game and the more we see from this pathetic group the better he looks.
Just on the Coffs Harbour incident - no one was charged so it’s not comparable. Though it’s worth noting that the investigating police were adamant that they believed a crime had occurred, but the DPP didn’t think that they stood enough at a chance to get a conviction so didn’t lay charges.
 

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It will be interesting to see whether the clubs must pass a resolution to adopt the proposed rule, and if so whether the NRL manage to get the numbers required to implement it.

May not be so simple:)
All not necessary, the ARLC/NRL intorduce the rule if they wish and take full responsibility for any player they wish to stand down including:
Contract Payout
Contract ownership
Compensation
Legal Liability
Confidentiality

In this way the game, players, Clubs and legal process are protected. The ARLC/NRL would have to think long and hard before making such decisions. The clubs would be fully compensated and have no say or responsibility for the decision.
 

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Throwing in another curve ball

How about the other victim?
The Saints as a club and there supports!

By my current understanding, the club MUST pay wages to JDB, must support him, train him etc. But are denied his services due to a retroactive ruling by the NRL.
Surely if the NRL (or should I say ARL?) wants to implement such ruling for the benefit of the game, it should pay for that right!

The only counter argument is that clubs should employ better people, and control them better. But there was nothing I’m aware of in his history, and he was effectively in his off season at the time. Due diligence in training and education was conducted. What else can the club realistically (and legally) do?

And to add a little more. The timing of the decisions seem to be totally screwed up. We won’t know until the last day or so if he is playing round 1. This could have all been handled months ago.

In addition to all of the above, the NRL did register the contract and had plenty opportunity to address any issues prior to registration however, of course if there is no history or indication of JDB needing help, then that would not be applicable.

I'm going on 65 years of age and over my lifetime I have noticed incidents of people who turn to unfaithful behaviour of men who's wife is pregnant. If anything, player's who's wife or partner is pregnant should maybe receive support to understand how they should act; not just remain faithful but a whole range of issues the player/partner may face and how to minimise problems or mistakes.

Remember, most players get through their wife/partner's pregnancy acting like real gentlemen.

The aim of such support is to minimise the instance of things going off the rails and to awaken players to their responsibilities to the wife/partner and to the game of rugby league.
 

Obi Wan

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I'm honestly starting to believe there is more to this, I think it's a deliberate attempt to weaken our club realising we were finally in a strong position to challenge for the title again with Jack playing. How else can you possibly explain the ludicrous behaviour of the media and certain people involved in the game, I've noticed certain things in the past that had me scratching my head but this takes the cake, they've hit an all time low and it has nothing to do with St George or Jack De Belin.
 
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merahputih

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What is so evident in how badly the NRL is run having these dopes in charge. We have a guy that left the Dogs in a mess, the master of sweeping stuff under the carpet when it suits him and the other who does not even know the actual teams that are in the NRL. And most here think the Dragons organisation is run bad. Doust would do a better job that is for sure.

Anyone remember the Coffs Harbour and Sharks incidents in NZ which Matt Johns was involved in? A whole bunch of players not 1 were involved and they were mostly 1st graders. They were far worse cases if not similar to the JDB case is and the game seemed to moved on at the time and let the courts handle it.. A tougher situation handled far better than this. How can you apply a rule on someone without it being in place? That shows someone is in a rush to destabilise a club and its supporters. It shows bias in my opinion, That is not just a simple misjudgement, this wreaks of someone who is clueless and with agendas against the Dragons.

Did anyone also hear what Beattie said about the Salary Cap compensation Saints will get? He said they need to apply for it. He said Saints have not called them yet so nothing is happening. So they are quick to suspend JDB for a rule not in place to destabilise the club, and slow to compensate them again to leave them in the hole without a player. I remember reading "NRL to compensate clubs for Salary Cap with new rule in place" , not Clubs to seek cap relief for new rule in place". Let me guess, they will apply and require a full process that takes months to get the go ahead and by that time there will be a new rule where there is a freeze on player transfers......

They should seriously throw money at Gallop and get him back. Since he left the game has gone to $hite. He would never let this happen. He was great for the game and the more we see from this pathetic group the better he looks.
At least one sports journo claims that Beattie will not survive the fallout from this matter due to his intemperate comments about aspects of the case, and could be gone in weeks.
 

RufusRex

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Obvious from day one that the negative fallout from jack playing would impact on St George bank - why would they want any bad press associated with them.

The club being dragged kicking and screaming out of the shadows.

Day 1 they needed to make a strong public statement about it but no.

Bleet all you like about jack being a victim and presumed innocent (which he is) .. serious charges lead to serious PR damage to the club and NRL ... More money could be lost from the game than if Jack made a successful legal arguement down the track.

Smart business decision needed from day 1 .. but smart business decisions are not what we do.
 
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