John Grant urges NRL to add a team in Ipswich/Logan

[flippikat]

Agreed, Ideally we'd see 5th Qlnd team and Adelaide in teams 21 & 22 slots by 2040. That pretty much sets up the NRL for a few decades to come.

Well.. with the exception of maybe a 3rd NZ team.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Let's clear up a few things...

1. The AFL is not even close to taking over anywhere in SEQ

2. The western corridor bids run with the "threat of AFL" line to get attention in a crowded bidding market (SEQ) and the media eats it up because it gets clicks

3. Plonking a training base in Springfield does not mean that all of a sudden the locals in surrounding suburbs fall in love with AFL. That assertion is rediculous.

4. It is good for the NRL and for SEQ to have a team in the Western Corridor of Brisbane as it is RL heartland, has a huge and growing population, has a huge player base and can provide more SEQ derby games which are winners for attendances and ratings. Bonus points that yet another traditional QRL brands, Ipswich Jets could be the team.

Having said all that, let Perth, PNG and Christchurch have their moment and we in SEQ can put our hands up and bid for team 21 or 22 alongside Adelaide, Melbourne 2, Wellington and Fiji.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

South Brisbane is bigger & growing almost twice as fast. Sunshine coast will get preseason games for dolphins & storm.

South Brisbane has nothing to do with Ipswich or Sunshine Coast and what part are you referring to specifically? Anything south of Beenleigh is Gold Coast. Logan is Logan. South Brisbane as you know it is capped, there isn’t much room left for residential outside apartment buildings.

If you mean South Queensland as a whole then both Ipswich and Sunshine Coast constitutes as part of it.

 

[Pippen94]

South Brisbane has nothing to do with Ipswich or Sunshine Coast and what part are you referring to specifically? Anything south of Beenleigh is Gold Coast. Logan is Logan. South Brisbane as you know it is capped, there isn’t much room left for residential outside apartment buildings.

If you mean South Queensland as a whole then both Ipswich and Sunshine Coast constitutes as part of it.

You should study urban planning a learn about vertical development. Anyway, South Brisbane is Logan, Ipswich, Springfield..

 

[Red&BlackBear]

You should study urban planning a learn about vertical development. Anyway, South Brisbane is Logan, Ipswich, Springfield..

South Brisbane is Brisbane. It ends on the boundary of where Brisbane itself finishes.

Logan is Logan.
Springfield is part of Ipswich.

https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/about-council/council-information-and-rates/brisbane-suburbs#i try to find Springfield or Logan on that.

As for vertical planning the outer suburbs are capped hence you don’t see apartments higher than x amount of floors near the major shopping centers like Chermside, Garden City, Indooroopilly and Carindale.

South Brisbane itself as in the suburb is capped at x amount of stories. As is Newstead, Valley, Hamilton side.

Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Moreton Bay, Redlands, Ipswich, Logan make up south Queensland. I think you’re confusing the two and can’t be bothered to research whatever shit you’re trying to prove.

 

[RL The greatest game]

Let's clear up a few things...

1. The AFL is not even close to taking over anywhere in SEQ

2. The western corridor bids run with the "threat of AFL" line to get attention in a crowded bidding market (SEQ) and the media eats it up because it gets clicks

3. Plonking a training base in Springfield does not mean that all of a sudden the locals in surrounding suburbs fall in love with AFL. That assertion is rediculous.

4. It is good for the NRL and for SEQ to have a team in the Western Corridor of Brisbane as it is RL heartland, has a huge and growing population, has a huge player base and can provide more SEQ derby games which are winners for attendances and ratings. Bonus points that yet another traditional QRL brands, Ipswich Jets could be the team.

Having said all that, let Perth, PNG and Christchurch have their moment and we in SEQ can put our hands up and bid for team 21 or 22 alongside Adelaide, Melbourne 2, Wellington and Fiji.

Put another NRL club in SE Qld in 5 to 8 years giving time for the Dolphins to bed themselves in, and that will put an end of another AFL club there in a lifetime.

 

[RL The greatest game]

Well.. with the exception of maybe a 3rd NZ team.

Let's get the 2nd one on the South Island first

 

[MugaB]

Well.. with the exception of maybe a 3rd NZ team.

Or a govt funded Fijian team, 1million population

 

[Pippen94]

South Brisbane is Brisbane. It ends on the boundary of where Brisbane itself finishes.

Logan is Logan.
Springfield is part of Ipswich.

https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/about-council/council-information-and-rates/brisbane-suburbs#i try to find Springfield or Logan on that.

As for vertical planning the outer suburbs are capped hence you don’t see apartments higher than x amount of floors near the major shopping centers like Chermside, Garden City, Indooroopilly and Carindale.

South Brisbane itself as in the suburb is capped at x amount of stories. As is Newstead, Valley, Hamilton side.

Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Moreton Bay, Redlands, Ipswich, Logan make up south Queensland. I think you’re confusing the two and can’t be bothered to research whatever shit you’re trying to prove.

Lol. So Logan & Ipswich aren't in Brisbane?! I guess Penrith & Parramatta aren't in Sydney either. Springfield sits right near the border of Logan & Ipswich and will be the centre of massive population growth. That's why jets, tigers & even AFL have targeted this area. I'll repeat again: regional teams don't bring the tv eyeballs, sponsorship or supporter base. Aussie expansion teams will be in big markets like Brisbane, Perth, Melbourne..

 

[flippikat]

Or a govt funded Fijian team, 1million population

Why not both?

 

[MugaB]

Lol. So Logan & Ipswich aren't in Brisbane?! I guess Penrith & Parramatta aren't in Sydney either. Springfield sits right near the border of Logan & Ipswich and will be the centre of massive population growth. That's why jets, tigers & even AFL have targeted this area. I'll repeat again: regional teams don't bring the tv eyeballs, sponsorship or supporter base. Aussie expansion teams will be in big markets like Brisbane, Perth, Melbourne..

Only way they get a team out in Ipswich is if they have more money than east tigers or atleast team up with them

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Lol. So Logan & Ipswich aren't in Brisbane?! I guess Penrith & Parramatta aren't in Sydney either. Springfield sits right near the border of Logan & Ipswich and will be the centre of massive population growth. That's why jets, tigers & even AFL have targeted this area. I'll repeat again: regional teams don't bring the tv eyeballs, sponsorship or supporter base. Aussie expansion teams will be in big markets like Brisbane, Perth, Melbourne..

No they’re not in Brisbane at all. The link I provided literally clarifies this.

To summarise again - Springfield is part of Ipswich. Ipswich is Ipswich, Brisbane is Brisbane, Logan is Logan. All 3 are part of South Queensland region but only Brisbane is Brisbane.

You believe what you want to though mate.

 

[Pippen94]

No they’re not in Brisbane at all. The link I provided literally clarifies this.

To summarise again - Springfield is part of Ipswich. Ipswich is Ipswich, Brisbane is Brisbane, Logan is Logan. All 3 are part of South Queensland region but only Brisbane is Brisbane.

You believe what you want to though mate.

I'll believe this;

Brisbane - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Pippen94]

Only way they get a team out in Ipswich is if they have more money than east tigers or atleast than up with them

If NRL thinks team is strategically important than it's possible, but that's long term. Tigers rebranding & covering south is possible but unlikely. Singo is best bet (if that's still on).

 

[MugaB]

If NRL thinks team is strategically important than it's possible, but that's long term. Tigers rebranding & covering south is possible but unlikely. Singo is best bet (if that's still on).

NRL will want the money first, strategically?
all Sydney clubs being in Sydney Is not strategic, they would've move on one or two by now if they were strategic... but they'd rather keep the existing clubs happy, as it really doesn't matter where a club IS, as long as they are all flourishing, which the bulk are.. so really not having Ipswich is a non issue.
Singo, has never landed a bid, probably never will, and now another Brisbane team is at least a decade away, singo will most probably be dust by then

 

[Pippen94]

NRL will want the money first, strategically?
all Sydney clubs being in Sydney Is not strategic, they would've move on one or two by now if they were strategic... but they'd rather keep the existing clubs happy, as it really doesn't matter where a club IS, as long as they are all flourishing, which the bulk are.. so really not having Ipswich is a non issue.
Singo, has never landed a bid, probably never will, and now another Brisbane team is at least a decade away, singo will most probably be dust by then

Things change. Right now NRL wants licence fee. Titans were strategic to counter AFL back in the day. One thing you can say is south Brisbane will hit ground running like dolphins.

 

[MugaB]

Things change. Right now NRL wants licence fee. Titans were strategic to counter AFL back in the day. One thing you can say is south Brisbane will hit ground running like dolphins.

Titans were the knee-jerk gallop ultra conservative reaction, there was a perfectly good central coast bears option and a Wellington based Southern Orcas too, both would've been hugely better than the titans, and it looks like the two teams PVL is going towards anyways (bears, orcas, and plus png)
....and gold coast still would've had a team eventually.

Gallop only went with the titans coz it wasn't in nsw and a new nz team was a bridge too far from him to handle, I'm sure we are past the whole distance thing now

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I'll believe this;

Brisbane - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yes you believe Wikipedia over the official Brisbane government site.

Brisbane suburbs

Find map, library and park information for Brisbane City Council's 190 mainland suburbs, additional islands and localities in Moreton Bay.

www.brisbane.qld.gov.au

Ipswich City Divisional Boundaries : Ipswich City Council

www.ipswich.qld.gov.au

Suburbs – Logan City Council

Suburbs

www.logan.qld.gov.au

 

[Wb1234]

Lol. So Logan & Ipswich aren't in Brisbane?! I guess Penrith & Parramatta aren't in Sydney either. Springfield sits right near the border of Logan & Ipswich and will be the centre of massive population growth. That's why jets, tigers & even AFL have targeted this area. I'll repeat again: regional teams don't bring the tv eyeballs, sponsorship or supporter base. Aussie expansion teams will be in big markets like Brisbane, Perth, Melbourne..

South west

 

[Wb1234]

Things change. Right now NRL wants licence fee. Titans were strategic to counter AFL back in the day. One thing you can say is south Brisbane will hit ground running like dolphins.

Afl copied nrl into Gold Coast

They were the ones that panicked