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Johnny Ramoane Dies

carcharias

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So by your rationale we should all be praising Mariah Carey, N*Sync and such as superior musical artists? Appealing to the plebs has nothing to do with musical integrity. Don't mention album sales again
touche

even when he does mention sales it deosn't make sense anyway... see below
The Ramones, never had a platinum album but they are idols .

I always thought Jason Donovan had talent .....regardless of what the album sales said
 

Ron Jeremy

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Is there something wrong with Mariahs voice???.......if anything it just confirms what i've been saying about the Ramones all along :lol:
 

Ron Jeremy

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carcharias said:
So by your rationale we should all be praising Mariah Carey, N*Sync and such as superior musical artists? Appealing to the plebs has nothing to do with musical integrity. Don't mention album sales again
touche

even when he does mention sales it deosn't make sense anyway... see below
The Ramones, never had a platinum album but they are idols .

I always thought Jason Donovan had talent .....regardless of what the album sales said

See class, thats what happens when you idolise average punk bands :lol:

Album sales says it all, it shows that people can relate to that music, something the Ramones couldn't do......apart from junkies & nipple studded, moe hawk single mothers :lol:
 

Trollhammaren

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Ron Jeremy said:
carcharias said:
So by your rationale we should all be praising Mariah Carey, N*Sync and such as superior musical artists? Appealing to the plebs has nothing to do with musical integrity. Don't mention album sales again
touche

even when he does mention sales it deosn't make sense anyway... see below
The Ramones, never had a platinum album but they are idols .

I always thought Jason Donovan had talent .....regardless of what the album sales said

See class, thats what happens when you idolise average punk bands :lol:

Album sales says it all, it shows that people can relate to that music, something the Ramones couldn't do......apart from junkies & nipple studded, moe hawk single mothers :lol:

Like yeah man, I mean I can totally relate to these lyrics which is why they're so popular, therefore GOOD.

*N Sync said:
Gotta giddy up...
Gotta giddy up...
'N Sync - giddy up... like this
Gotta giddy up...
C'mon... just drop the verse
Gotta giddy up...
Tried to get a hold of you last night
Called you on the phone
Thinkin' to myself something ain't right
Girl were you alone?

Letting little things come between us
All we do is fuss
When all I wanna do is show you love

So I say, Hold up!
I'm tired of all these lies... yeah, yeah
Hold up!
And if you wanna make things right
That's right
Hold up!
I'm tired of all these lies
Hold up!
Cause if you wanna make things right, you got to...

Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
I Gotta giddy up
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Gotta giddy up
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
I gotta giddy up, giddy up
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Gotta giddy up

Remembering the way we used to be
Everything was cool
And now you've gone and done all this to me babe (to me})

Maybe we can turn this love around
Give it one more try
You see everytime you're thinkin about saying goodbye

I gotta I say, Hold up!
I'm tired of all these lies
Hold up!
If you wanna make things right
Hold up!
I'm tired of all these lies
Hold up!
Cause if you wanna make things right, you got to

Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
I Gotta giddy up
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Gotta giddy up (like this)
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Yeah
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Gotta giddy up

Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
You better giddy up
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
You gotta giddy up yeah... up yeah... up...
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Yeah
Giddy up, Giddy up, Giddy up now (giddy up, giddy up)
Gotta giddy up

Yeah... right... giddy up... ha... giddy up...

Ride it, Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Giddy up, Giddy Up

Ride it, Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Giddy up, Giddy Up

Ride it, Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Ride it, Ride it, Ride it,
Giddy up...
You got to, you got to, you got to giddy, giddy up.
You got to, you got to, you got to giddy, giddy up.

Ride it, Ride it, Ride it, Ride it...
Ride it, Ride it, Ride it...
Giddy up...
Ride it, Ride it, Ride it...

(We gonna get dis crunk!)
Giddy Up!

LOL1111!!!11111!!OMG!!!!1!Ju5t1n 1z l1K3 S000000000000000 h0tz0rz!!1!111!!11!LOl!111
 

Rexxy

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What the public didn't know about Johnny Ramone is
> > that he cared.
> > > Johnny cared about the people he may have not paid
> > enough attention to
> > during his life and he cared about anybody he
>might
> > have inadvertently hurt
> > along the way to creating music history.
> > > ''I didn't ever want to do anything to hurt
> > anyone,'' he told me as we
> > gathered notes for his upcoming memoirs, which we
> > began working on in April.
> > ''I was always doing the best with what I had.''
> > > To begin the upcoming book, Johnny says something,
> > which he dictated with
> > succinct precision, as if he had been holding it
>in
> > for the moment: ''I want
> > you Ramones fans to understand that I would not
>play
> > the way I play if I
> > were not the person I am, and the Ramones would
> > never have been the band it
> > was without that.''
> > > It seemed to be an apology of sorts, as if the
> > person that he had been did
> > not square with the person he grew into, who was a
> > faithful husband, and, by
> > all accounts, a very true friend.
> > > Johnny would hate for his legacy to be
> > ''whitewashed,'' a word he used when
> > he read or heard something that glossed over the
>bad
> > or negative aspects of
> > an issue.
> > > So to some, Johnny was a nasty, difficult person.
> > Many have said as much,
> > it's out there among the books and articles and
> > video collections. Some of
> > it is true. Some of it isn't. Some more of it will
> > soon be out there for
> > people to decide.
> > > But from this vantage point, even in the throes of
> > his illness, he was never
> > brusque, never impatient. Listening back to the
> > tapes of our many hours of
> > conversations, he was at times strident and
> > opinionated. Other times, he was
> > tired, worn out by the sickness that he fought
>with
> > such courage.
> > > His illness had sapped some of his anger, he noted
> > ruefully.
> > > "It has changed me and I don't know that I like
> > how,'' he said. ''It has
> > softened me up and I liked the old me better. I
> > don't even have the energy
> > to be angry. I liked being angry. ''
> > > But he kept on and we kept on, daily phone calls
>and
> > several weeks of
> > meetings at his Los Angeles home. Sometimes he
> > talked baseball. Sometimes he
> > bitched about liberals. > > And he always understood his lot in life and
>how
> > lucky he was to play music.
> > And he was very grateful.
> > > " There are people who really have to work for a
> > living, they work in coal
> > mines, they sweep streets, they collect garbage,''
> > he told me. ''It was
> > taxing on the mind because of all the travel and
> > there were certain
> > pressures, but it was nothing like real work that
> > most people do. I was very
> > lucky.''
> > > As Arturo Vega, the band's lighting man and art
> > director for all of its 22
> > years, most aptly said, ''Johnny was the
> > misunderstood Ramone. What he did
> > was so basic and elemental that it was beyond the
> > idea of liking him. People
> > never like authority and that was what he had to
> > exert in the Ramones. He
> > was misunderstood because he was not the lovable
> > Joey or the crazy punk Dee
> > Dee.''
> > > The Ramones were what counted for Johnny, more
>than
> > himself, and bigger to
> > him than any other entity in his universe. He
>loved
> > that unit more than he
> > loved himself.
> > > When we worked through changes in the manuscript,
> > Johnny would quietly
> > chastise me if anything looked as if he were
>taking
> > credit, due or not.
> > > It was that selflessness that made the Ramones the
> > giants they were.
> > > When Johnny recognized that a guitar part could be
> > played better by someone
> > other than himself, he stepped aside.
> > > The guitar chord at the end of ''You're Gonna Kill
> > That Girl'' was Tommy.
> > Walter Lure and Daniel Rey played fills on some
> > albums that, Johnny said,
> > ''would've taken me longer to get down and even
>then
> > they wouldn't have
> > sounded as good.''
> > > His leadership corralled the formidable individual
> > talents of the Ramones
> > and sent them from cult band during their
>existence
> > to the mass acceptance
> > of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002.
> > > ''The Ramones were his band, he was always right
>and
> > he's a bully, a real
> > bully,'' said Danny Fields, the band's first
> > manager. ''But always for the
> > right reasons. His sense of justice was
> > impeccable.''
> > > Gary Kurfirst, who succeeded Fields in 1980, saw
> > right away who ran the
> > show.
> > > ''Johnny was the glue,'' Kurfirst said. ''They
>would
> > work for three months
> > straight, come home for two weeks and take one day
> > off, then he made them go
> > into rehearsal so they wouldn't lose their chops.
>I
> > asked him how they could
> > do that and he said it was like a basketball team,
> > 'you have to practice or
> > you lose it.' That was Johnny.''
> > > The fans were his playground, the people who made
>it
> > worth all his while.
> > Johnny signed endlessly for anyone who requested.
> > > ''I started to see them when I was 16 they were
>one
> > of my favorite bands,''
> > said Jose Theodore who is now all-star goalie for
> > the Montreal Canadians.
> > ''But when I was 17, me and my brother and a
>couple
> > of friends when to see
> > them in Montreal and we waited outside the venue
>and
> > followed them to their
> > hotel and when they got out of their van I asked
> > them for their autograph. I
> > told Johnny that I was going to play NHL hockey
>and
> > they were all really
> > nice.''
> > > In the exchanges of fandom and partings, Jose gave
> > his address to Gene the
> > Cop, Johnny's friend who was traveling with the
> > band.
> > > ''That Christmas, I got a card and it said 'Merry
> > Christmas' and it was
> > signed by Johnny,'' Theodore said. ''With that
>kind
> > of thing, and how nice
> > they were, they taught me how to treat my fans. I
> > was just a kid and they
> > treated me like that. Imagine.''
> > > Johnny relished the attention and felt humbly
> > honored by those fans.
> > > ''I always had that in mind, to treat people like
> > I'd like to be treated,''
> > Johnny said. ''I tell people who are becoming
> > celebrities how important
> > that is. I hope someone pays attention to that.''
> > > Johnny was the tough Ramone, though, and nobody
> > forgot about it. This was
> > part of the reason for his remorse that was noted
>at
> > the top of this page.
> > He knew he knocked heads and he felt the tension
>he
> > created in the band.
> > > As for the money, well, Johnny was all about it.
>He
> > watched his money grow
> > with capitalistic glee as his career progressed,
> > befitting his Republican
> > status. He hated wasting dough and would scold
> > others if he saw it going on.
> > They stayed in cheaper hotels unless the promoter
> > was paying.
> > > And he was characteristically honest and unashamed
> > about his quest for
> > financial security.
> > > When ''Blitzkrieg Bop'' became a music bed for a
>Bud
> > Lite commercial, Johnny
> > was ecstatic even as some cried sellout.
> > > "I thought it was terrific. I liked seeing the
> > commercial and I would get
> > questions about how I could let them do it. It was
> > the easiest money I ever
> > made. It made the Bud commercial better. It would
> > have been bad if it was a
> > lame commercial, but I mean, beer, which is
> > all-American. I thought it was
> > good.''
> > > Johnny departs as the purveyor of what is the most
> > important musical
> > movement of the 20th century, punk rock. It was
>born
> > when rock music was
> > still just breaking out of adolescence at the age
>of
> > 20 or so.
> > > The man who changed its direction was a 6-foot
>tall
> > lightening bolt of wiry
> > fury, a man who burst the sonic volume level with
>a
> > frown and a Mosrite that
> > was cranked to the heights, the man who influenced
> > generations.
> > > And the movement continues.
> > > We sat in his living room one afternoon last
>month,
> > several weeks after
> > Johnny had narrowly escaped death via an infection
> > he had developed related
> > to his cancer. He was tired and we were about to
> > wrap up a day of book talk.
> > > But that mind, ever sharp, honed in on what is the
> > substance of the parting
> > chapter in the book, one in which he describes his
> > battle with prostate
> > cancer.
> > > ''We all have time limits and mine came a little
> > early,'' he said to me,
> > quietly, his eyes closing.
> > > ''But I've had a great life no matter how it turns
> > out now. I've had the
> > best wife, Linda, that I could ever hope to find
>and
> > I've had such great
> > friends that really care about me and would do
> > anything they could for me.''
> > > President Bush, speaking in eulogy of Ronald
>Reagan,
> > who passed away in June
> > and was one of Johnny's few heroes, said that the
> > late president had
> > ''principles that are etched in his soul.''
> > > Johnny's own principle-riddled soul is finally
> > resting. May his afterlife be
> > as fruitful as his life was here with us.
> > > Steve Miller
> > Avalanche50@hotmail.com
> >
 

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