Judiciary Charges 2019

[CliffyIsGod]

The priors thing is stupid.

 

[Timmah]

What’s the deal with “similar offences”

Like what about a dangerous throw is similar to gouging?
Isn’t the idea to punish repeat offenders with similar offences? Haha
But anyways if that’s what it is, that’s what it is

'similar offences' would mean another Dangerous Contact charge.
'non-similar' would be a dangerous throw, high tackle or tripping etc

 

[Iafeta]

The judicial system is horrible. It’s like the refereeing system, the big teams tend to get favourable calls. Come at me, just calling it what it is.

Remember when you tripped a dude, you were ordered off and got multiple weeks. Now you go on report and get a small fine. Sivo from the Eels just about takes Hughes head off and he gets 2 weeks. He should have been ordered off and given 5 weeks. Maguire copped a fine, like Young should get a long suspension. But doesn’t.

But still it will never be as bad as the mid 90s. Origin coming up? No problems, you could eye gouge, spear tackle, ram a shoulder into a dude at full tilt and all is well. Wait we have an ANZAC test coming up and if you’re a Kiwi, you’ll get a charge that coincidentally gets you ruled out of the test match.

It will never change. It’s always been a farce of epic proportions. I mean frankly, if a dude is up for 5-7 weeks, should the video ref have not picked it up and informed the referee who immediately ordered him off? They stopped and looked at it. I hope for all hopes sakes they found alternate footage that wasn’t available while the match was on

 

[nick87]

'similar offences' would mean another Dangerous Contact charge.
'non-similar' would be a dangerous throw, high tackle or tripping etc

That’s it though isn’t it?
How is a high tackle similar to a gouge? Or a trip? Haha f**king obscene

Just call it recent charge because that’s ultimately what it is. Loading if you’ve drawn the wrath of the MRC in the last 2 years

But that’s beside the point and seperate to the young situation, everyone is subjected to that nonsensical bullshit

 

[lockyno1]

Better question is why he wasn’t sent off!

Send off is dead

 

[mozza91]

Don’t forget the 2 week loading for having 2 last names.

 

[gerg]

Well McGuire is an absolute gentleman on the field so surely that was taken into consideration.

 

[t-ba]

Don’t forget the 2 week loading for having 2 last names.

Yeah no one is going to argue that that is unjust.

 

[Timmah]

That’s it though isn’t it?
How is a high tackle similar to a gouge? Or a trip? Haha f**king obscene

I think you've misunderstood my post.

The high tackle, trip etc are non-similar which is smaller (20%) loading.

Young in all likelihood has been charged with Dangerous Contact in the last two years which is why he's attracted a similar prior. That's 50% loading, and when the base penalty is already 300 points for a Grade 3 Dangerous Contact, it balloons from 2 weeks (early plea) / 3 weeks (guilty), into 5-7 instead.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Obviously I'm missing something obvious here. How does 50% loading on a base of 300 turn into 750

 

[t-ba]

Obviously I'm missing something obvious here. How does 50% loading on a base of 300 turn into 750

In a bid to prove the legitimacy of his post playing contracts, the NRL has engaged Greg Inglis to calculate loadings.

 

[AJB1102]

In a bid to prove the legitimacy of his post playing contracts, the NRL has engaged Greg Inglis to calculate loadings.

Beat me too it

 

[Timmah]

Obviously I'm missing something obvious here. How does 50% loading on a base of 300 turn into 750

Never mind, it's 500 points base.

Which without priors was 3 weeks (375 points) or 5 (500 points)

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Never mind, it's 500 points base.

Which without priors was 3 weeks (375 points) or 5 (500 points)

Ta mate.

5 weeks base is too much imo. He was reckless but I don't think it was intentional. Mcguire getting off with a fine just muddies it.

Hopefully they can argue it down to 2-3 weeks with a guilty plea.

 

[Timmah]

Ta mate.

5 weeks base is too much imo. He was reckless but I don't think it was intentional. Mcguire getting off with a fine just muddies it.

Hopefully they can argue it down to 2-3 weeks with a guilty plea.

They can argue the grading down but the loading will still apply if the charge isn't dismissing entirely, so it'd be difficult to get it any lower than probably 3-4 weeks I'd say.

 

[skeepe]

Never mind, it's 500 points base.

Which without priors was 3 weeks (375 points) or 5 (500 points)

Why is the base 500? The NRL website says that a grade 3 dangerous contact is 300 base?

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-game/judiciary-code/

Are they just making shit up as they go again?

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Why is the base 500? The NRL website says that a grade 3 dangerous contact is 300 base?

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-game/judiciary-code/

Are they just making shit up as they go again?

Hmmm have they messed up the loading when they put out the release? 3 weeks with an early plea + carry over points sounds more reasonable.

Edit: Nope they've said 500 base charge when there is no 500 point dangerous contact charge. Wtf is going on??

 

[Danish]

Raiders should absolutely challenge the grading.

There is zero difference between what he did and what Maguire did. Maguire was charged, so that sets a precedent as well.

NRL judiciary are going to get bent over on wednesday

 

[nick87]

I think you've misunderstood my post.

The high tackle, trip etc are non-similar which is smaller (20%) loading.

Young in all likelihood has been charged with Dangerous Contact in the last two years which is why he's attracted a similar prior. That's 50% loading, and when the base penalty is already 300 points for a Grade 3 Dangerous Contact, it balloons from 2 weeks (early plea) / 3 weeks (guilty), into 5-7 instead.

No, I think you’ve missed my point
This is an eye gouging charge. Unless he has another eye gouge charge on his rap sheet it makes no sense that he has any other similar priors loading

They lump this shit into dangerous contact so they can bang people with their insane similar priors system when I’m reality there is nothing similar about this act than a crusher or whatever he was charged with under dangerous contact

They have a wildly dumb priors and similar priors system

 

[Captain Apollo]

For those wondering how the points were calculated for Hudson Young's charge -



Above is from - https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/31/round-12-charges-waddell-faces-three-match-ban-for-striking/