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jc155776

Coach
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Credit to Brandon Smoth. Didn’t make an excuse, didn’t whinge when sent. I honestly reckon he was injured as f**k and was looking for a way out.

Hasn’t complained about what happened. I like that.
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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Credit to Brandon Smoth. Didn’t make an excuse, didn’t whinge when sent. I honestly reckon he was injured as f**k and was looking for a way out.

Hasn’t complained about what happened. I like that.

Yeah well, credit where credit is due is the right thing to do.

He's still a cheesy quim though
 

Chimp

Bench
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2,871
The game has been broken for a couple of years.
I really don’t get what the NRL want the game to look like anymore. What is a safe tackle nowadays? It feels like they’ve massively reduced the allowed impact areas for tackles;
- Hit ‘shoulder to shoulder/chest’ hard and if any whiplash type movement of the man with the ball results in his head making contact with any part of the defender and its a penalty and on report.
- Hit chest/ball and slide up, or defender collapses under the weight of hit and head comes into contact with any part of defender, penalty and on report
- Go lower than the waist, with first contact around the legs, and it’s dangerous contact, penalty and on report
- Go around the waist and if your body happens to impact on legs, hip drop, penalty and on report
- Attacker turns back into defender and then holds neck, crusher, penalty and on report
- Good solid front on hit around the guts that bends the attacker and puts them on their back, dangerous lifting tackle, penalty and on report

Essentially, any tackle that results in injury is now a penalty and on report. Seems like the NRL just want a game of ‘grab’, and it’s shite. And also, if you try and make a non-aggressive tackle, around the waist, you’re likely to cop a hip to the head and end up ruled out for HIA (the old Wado classic).

What is a ‘safe’, non-penalisable tackle nowadays?

The idiots at the NRL just can’t get their heads around what is an ‘intentional’ dangerous tackle (proper hip drops, crushers etc where the defender knows exactly what they’re doing - even though it may be a red mist brain fart), a reckless tackle (not intended to be illegal, but zero control, high likelihood to go wrong - eg steaming out of the line Jesse style) and then accidental contact (Nikora ‘hip drop’)

The idiots just need to get that right and punishments are then easy;

intential = send off and big ban
Reckless = Maybe send off dependent on severity, definitely on report, short/medium ban based on circumstances
Accidental = play on

Imbeciles!!!!
 
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Well said Chimp!

It’s like you have to tackle with a protractor in your hand and line up the exact angle you are going to make the tackle these days.

Also not one peanut commentator from Nein or Fox called out the Cheezel (Fat block head and nothing in the inside) for simulating being flipped on his head and then feigning injury.
 

Frenzy.

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I really don’t get what the NRL want the game to look like anymore. What is a safe tackle nowadays? It feels like they’ve massively reduced the allowed impact areas for tackles;
- Hit ‘shoulder to shoulder/chest’ hard and if any whiplash type movement of the man with the ball results in his head making contact with any part of the defender and its a penalty and on report.
- Hit chest/ball and slide up, or defender collapses under the weight of hit and head comes into contact with any part of defender, penalty and on report
- Go lower than the waist, with first contact around the legs, and it’s dangerous contact, penalty and on report
- Go around the waist and if your body happens to impact on legs, hip drop, penalty and on report
- Attacker turns back into defender and then holds neck, crusher, penalty and on report
- Good solid front on hit around the guts that bends the attacker and puts them on their back, dangerous lifting tackle, penalty and on report

Essentially, any tackle that results in injury is now a penalty and on report. Seems like the NRL just want a game of ‘grab’, and it’s shite. And also, if you try and make a non-aggressive tackle, around the waist, you’re likely to cop a hip to the head and end up ruled out for HIA (the old Wado classic).

What is a ‘safe’, non-penalisable tackle nowadays?

The idiots at the NRL just can’t get their heads around what is an ‘intentional’ dangerous tackle (proper hip drops, crushers etc where the defender knows exactly what they’re doing - even though it may be a red mist brain fart), a reckless tackle (not intended to be illegal, but zero control, high likelihood to go wrong - eg steaming out of the line Jesse style) and then accidental contact (Nikora ‘hip drop’)

The idiots just need to get that right and punishments are then easy;

intential = send off and big ban
Reckless = Maybe send off dependent on severity, definitely on report, short/medium ban based on circumstances
Accidental = play on

Imbeciles!!!!
That's because no one is in anyone else's head and intent can't be proven "beyond reasonable doubt". The classifications of intentional, careless, dangerous, quim act, just totally phuqued or whatever are outdated and shouldn't be used at all. They are subjective and arbitrary terms that can never be applied definitively because one mans careless is another man's deliberate.

Until they simply apply the rules, stop adjudicating based on outcome of action, i.e. if injury is present or not and just look at the action against the rules they'll never get consistency.

The game is just enveloped in a shroud of grey where not a single thing bears any semblance to clarity.
 

sladden road

Juniors
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2,250
On Nikora.
just because he isn’t charged doesn’t make him guilty.
This will be a interesting insight into the attitude of the admin and coaching staff. Most of us agree this is nonsense. Do we make a stand and fight it?I would.
Robbo would.

what do Deano and Fitz do?

Plant the flag, take the hill, draw the line and burn the canoes. This is where we stand as a admin.
If it means a extra week fine, at least we make a stand.
 

coolumsharkie

Referee
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27,115
Agree with all the comments. Common sense ain't that common these days, especially when protecting your future law suits. Paradoxically it doesn't matter because there won't be an NRL to sue down the track if they maintain this setting.
 

Cheese sandwich

First Grade
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5,065
I really don’t get what the NRL want the game to look like anymore. What is a safe tackle nowadays? It feels like they’ve massively reduced the allowed impact areas for tackles;
- Hit ‘shoulder to shoulder/chest’ hard and if any whiplash type movement of the man with the ball results in his head making contact with any part of the defender and its a penalty and on report.
- Hit chest/ball and slide up, or defender collapses under the weight of hit and head comes into contact with any part of defender, penalty and on report
- Go lower than the waist, with first contact around the legs, and it’s dangerous contact, penalty and on report
- Go around the waist and if your body happens to impact on legs, hip drop, penalty and on report
- Attacker turns back into defender and then holds neck, crusher, penalty and on report
- Good solid front on hit around the guts that bends the attacker and puts them on their back, dangerous lifting tackle, penalty and on report

Essentially, any tackle that results in injury is now a penalty and on report. Seems like the NRL just want a game of ‘grab’, and it’s shite. And also, if you try and make a non-aggressive tackle, around the waist, you’re likely to cop a hip to the head and end up ruled out for HIA (the old Wado classic).

What is a ‘safe’, non-penalisable tackle nowadays?

The idiots at the NRL just can’t get their heads around what is an ‘intentional’ dangerous tackle (proper hip drops, crushers etc where the defender knows exactly what they’re doing - even though it may be a red mist brain fart), a reckless tackle (not intended to be illegal, but zero control, high likelihood to go wrong - eg steaming out of the line Jesse style) and then accidental contact (Nikora ‘hip drop’)

The idiots just need to get that right and punishments are then easy;

intential = send off and big ban
Reckless = Maybe send off dependent on severity, definitely on report, short/medium ban based on circumstances
Accidental = play on

Imbeciles!!!!
Well said
 

eddiesmith

Juniors
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2,467
So Nikora has accepted, bullshit as it is more important he plays next week imo and if he missed the panthers game as a result of a soft judiciary, so be it!

No word on Fifita accepting though?
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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51,344
So Nikora has accepted, bullshit as it is more important he plays next week imo and if he missed the panthers game as a result of a soft judiciary, so be it!

No word on Fifita accepting though?

He's on $850k a year. He won't contest $1k
 

Ozzi_78

First Grade
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7,178
I don't think he would get off in retrospect. It depends on accusing Smith of backflipping. NRL won't do that in a million years.
Especially when neither of smiths legs were on the ground. We know what he did but it’s hard to prove.
 

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