Just emailed Sharks RE: Sully & Nuts

[Macca]

We need an 80 minute 5/8th.

 

[Dr. Funkenstein]

i dont think sullys defence id that good he dose get the job done though

 

[blacktip-reefy]

A real 5/8 - Wally.

Preston was great in combo with Gower as Gower does the organising and most of the kicking. Leaving Preston to ball play or run himself.
I can see a Sully BK combo working in the same fashion.

Lockyer was always a 5/8, Bennett's Koala needed to be protected from the front line defence but Wayne has finally bitten the bullet.

What do we need in a 5/8? Well we have a pretty damn good halfback, we just need someone, with some vision, a kicking game of sorts(BK will do most) and most importantly the ability to be a runner for BK also.
And Michael Sullivan has all the skills I would want for a 5/8 to compliment BK.

The problem with a Sully BK Combo is that there will be minumum 12 missed tackles whilst both are on there for 80 minutes. Particularly critical in the first 20.
I have no doubt Sully would go well t 5/8 but unfortunately for him, it won't be whilst BK is playing half.
The Gower/Campbell combo is a bad example as Gower is quite big & a great defender. Also, presto may miss a few, but he reads well & foils play by using his agility to get in the way & break play down. Like Langy says, he attempts tackles nobody else does.
So, IMO , the club needs a defensive 5/8th or defensively strong 5/8th & tht includes one with size.
Sorry Sully.

 

[Surely]

We have a 5/8 .. his name is Bird .... and he will be a very good one !

 

[Zack DLR]

I dont think that Owen Craigie is a bad suggestion at all, Its at least worth thinking about.

He never looked good at Souths, but when he was fit and confident at the knights in around 98, he was good for a try a week.

I agree with BTR that we could get him for a song, and although I dont think it will happen, its an interesting suggestion nonetheless.

But then again, theres a million players who looked like they should have kicked on, but just never did. He may just be one of them.

 

[Rieck_Fan]

He may have looked good in '98 but then again so did Allan Langer, 1998 was a long time ago I say steer clear of Owen Craigie.

I say 5/8 we try out Aitken before we start throwing money at any players away from the club.

 

[King of the Hill]

We have a 5/8 .. his name is Bird .... and he will be a very good one !

i surely agree surely
just hopefully for another club and in premier league!!

I dont think that Owen Craigie is a bad suggestion at all, Its at least worth thinking about.

:shock: :shock: :shock:

you have got to be kidding, but it's not april 1?
if riddell comes we've already filled our quota of fat players
in fact that must be why he wants such a ridiculous amount of money - because according to the scales he is equivalent to 1.5 players

owen craigie is another fat unprofessional player
he had potential once but the he never kicked on because he's simply a joke
he's got a poor state of mind, he's f**ked in the head
he's always bitching, moaning and moping around about something
souths fans say they get scared when he touches the ball
he's a liar too - a year or two ago he put on too much weight and claimed publicly that it wasnt because he'd been drinking or eating too much, he claimed it was his body shape
a few weeks later he admitted it's because he drinks and eats too much
a big NO TO CRAIGIE

and the day we start recruiting from south sydney is the day i start to question stuart raper's sanity
luckily it wont be considered.

 

[Jimbo]

So it's fair to say that Owen Cragie is the JOKE OF THE LEAGUE?

 

[carinashark]

Bye bye Birdy.
Carinashark

 

[King of the Hill]

Owen Craigie is quite possibly the biggest JOKE OF THE LEAGUE in the league
Biggest in more ways than one

 

[Macca]

I know I'd rather have Bird at 5/8th than Cragie that's for sure.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Owen craigie has more ability in a finger nail than Bird does in his entire body.
But like SS said, he's farged in the head.
he cant be compared to 300k Riddell either.
Craigie would be 3k per game at most & would be vulnerable to all sorts of contract stipulations that could only benefit the Sharks & him.
Craigie would be huge risk for the club if they bought him as the 100% answer to the 5/8 we currently lack at the club.
But he would not be a risk if he was obtained as a possible solution & he definitely would not be a monetary risk.
Not like a 300k Riddel risk.
I would like to here SS's suggestion for a 5/8th & his finacial plan to pay for him.
It's quite easy to just say yeah, buy Wally, buy Fittler, Buy Giddley, buy sculthorpe.
That just isn't going to happen & would in fact be further down the list of possible scenarios than the Owen Craigie scenario.

 

[Foz]

Is it a coincidence that Langmack is gone and the first side picked by the new coach has Owen Craigie at 5/8 for the Rabbits.?

 

[Macca]

Owen craigie has more ability in a finger nail than Bird does in his entire body.
But like SS said, he's farged in the head.
he cant be compared to 300k Riddell either.
Craigie would be 3k per game at most & would be vulnerable to all sorts of contract stipulations that could only benefit the Sharks & him.
Craigie would be huge risk for the club if they bought him as the 100% answer to the 5/8 we currently lack at the club.
But he would not be a risk if he was obtained as a possible solution & he definitely would not be a monetary risk.
Not like a 300k Riddel risk.
I would like to here SS's suggestion for a 5/8th & his finacial plan to pay for him.
It's quite easy to just say yeah, buy Wally, buy Fittler, Buy Giddley, buy sculthorpe.
That just isn't going to happen & would in fact be further down the list of possible scenarios than the Owen Craigie scenario.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[King of the Hill]

I would like to here SS's suggestion for a 5/8th & his finacial plan to pay for him.
It's quite easy to just say yeah, buy Wally, buy Fittler, Buy Giddley, buy sculthorpe.
That just isn't going to happen & would in fact be further down the list of possible scenarios than the Owen Craigie scenario.

Well I'm not 100% convinced that we need an all star 5/8
Kimmorley's going to call the shots no matter who is wearing the 6
All we need is a link man doing the job like Gallen has or like Timmins does for Illawarra
That wont cost a fortune
And if we want a ball player on the other side of the ruck, use Peach, like we are right now or give Sully a go. I'd like to see Nige have a dig too.

But if youre having a dig at my hypothetic cash splash, it's simple. Scrap the fortune we're offering Riddell, scrap Beattie, Rieck, Bird and a couple of underperforming players and there's your money in the bank. Throw it at Gidley or Lockyer if we're that keen for a big 5/8. If we could offer Rogers the 350-400K he was after, I'm sure we could afford Kurt Gidley...not that I think we need him.

Where's the actual money going to come from? From pogo's multi million dollar sponsorship of course!

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Rapes said categorically he wanted a ball player.
He doesn't want the sharks to be one dimensional.
So if we put sully there, we actually lose Sully from his current role. Then we still have a gap. So we need Riddel(or similar).
beattie is on fug all 1 yr contract.
Reick would be on little.
So your solution is flick bird & find one from within? Gallen does not really fit the role Rapes wants. Dumas?

 

[coolumsharkie]

Rapes said categorically he wanted a ball player.
He doesn't want the sharks to be one dimensional.

I would have thought that with Sully's insurgence gives us anything but a one dimentional attack!

Thats without current obvious injuries....and is Aitken a ball player?

 

[King of the Hill]

So your solution is flick bird & find one from within? Gallen does not really fit the role Rapes wants. Dumas?

well whatever was going to free up cash for rogers
apply that to whoever rapes wants

i dont know who he would sign though.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Yes Aitken is a ball player.
Much in the BK mould.
A bit more of a runner.
I can't agree with what others say about him though. Having seen him twice, he seems to structured or forced. Maybe a result of trying too hard.
Having said that, he has Bird covered easily in terms of obvious skill.

& on Sully, I think what Rapes meant was the three points of attack. Left, ruck & right

 

[imasharkie]

After watching the interview with Stuey on fox I reckon Bird is gornski and aitkIN is IN thats if aitkin goes alright. So McSharkie wins either way don't you agree.