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Kearney - Yes or No?

Iafeta

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Ran us into the ground???? He took over the worst squad in the comp IMO and did a reasonable job with what he had last season. The problem was we bought well in the offseason but he couldn't seem to work out a plan to match the players in his team ala Des Hasler who has done an amazing job with the Dogs.

As funny as this sounds i think he has left us in a far better state than when he got to Parra. He has helped improving our Junior structures which will hopefully bare fruit in a a few years time and he was hamstrung with the salary cap and what a few players were on. In 2014 We will have plenty of cap space to make a big play on the market. My main problem with his was i don't think he was tactically sound enough to be a first grade coach, so i doubt a Bluey and him Combo would be the answer. Also the style of play he coaches would hardly suit the Warriors team IMO. Maybe a devolpment role with your 20's would be a way to go.

Speaking of recruitment, one would have to be an utter moron to think this year's team was better placed to compete... or more to the point, a goose to make the moves they made. By that I mean I find it galling that so much experience was allowed to move on from the club last year - Heremaia, Berrigan, Latimore, Moon, Seymour, Hohaia... Philosophically it sounds like a grand idea to keep growing from within, but I think that was too much of a cull of experienced players, with only really Friend coming in. My impression is Dean Bell is responsible for the direction they take in terms of recruitment, so while the grow the farm and grow from within strategy sounds a noble gesture, I wonder if its all that sustainable?
 

Blair

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...I wonder if its all that sustainable?

At the beginning of this season, I heard all around (including here) that the future of the Warriors was all about 'home grown talent' and 'we don't need/want any more players (Aussie, Kiwi, whoever) from across the ditch.

At the end of this season that talk has noticeably cooled!
 

vvvrulz

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At the beginning of this season, I heard all around (including here) that the future of the Warriors was all about 'home grown talent' and 'we don't need/want any more players (Aussie, Kiwi, whoever) from across the ditch.

At the end of this season that talk has noticeably cooled!

Yeah that really is an arrogant attitude given how much Australian players/coaches have given to the club in the past. That said though I still believe we had a team strong enough to be in the top four and were let down purely by our tactics and attitude.
 

Fast Eddie

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Kearney has to be the sole head coach by the start of next season, so we can keep blokes like Mateo and actually make a decent play at some off the off contract 'stars'
 

WarriorDefence

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No, love Jimmy, but just no. Another unproven rooky

I'd be rapt if we got him- I think his style would suit us too. Dymock coach with Kearney and iro as assistants sounds good to me.
On radio they said he pulled out because he doesn't wanna give up his club position but it seems weird to me that u would give up the nsw job to keep an assistants job a club where u have no chance of snaring the top job.
I thought I heard s.o.o coaches would be getting $400,000 a year- can anyone back that up? I'd imagine that's alot more than he's on.
 

Iafeta

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At the beginning of this season, I heard all around (including here) that the future of the Warriors was all about 'home grown talent' and 'we don't need/want any more players (Aussie, Kiwi, whoever) from across the ditch.

At the end of this season that talk has noticeably cooled!

I still think, as an overall vision, its the one to go with as far as recruitment strategies go. But my understanding of it was it was the end of the Michael Crockett/Matt Jobson type signings... and that there would be spots for Kevin Campion/PJ Marsh/Brent Tate type signings. Nathan Friend is a good player, but surely with everything we let go last year it'd be nigh on amazing if they seriously weren't interested in rep quality players from the ESL or Australia.

No, love Jimmy, but just no. Another unproven rooky

Agreed. I think coaching a very young squad requires a coach who can offset that by being able to pass on a lot of NRL experience as a coach. Which is why currently Steve Folkes is the only one who really appeals to me.

Kearney has to be the sole head coach by the start of next season, so we can keep blokes like Mateo and actually make a decent play at some off the off contract 'stars'

Why would Kearney have a better shot than McClennan? Steve's record is no better than Brian's.
 

Fast Eddie

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Why would Kearney have a better shot than McClennan? Steve's record is no better than Brian's.

Because everything I've heard/read points towards Kearney having a decent level of respect and is well like by plenty of NRL players. I know all the Kiwis seem to love him, and with what is currently happening Keanrey would have a much better chance of helping retain players like Mateo rather than McClennan, thats a no brainer.

And on another point, anyone here who would rather McClennan than Kearney as HC is crazy. It's not the best option (that would be someone like Folkes) but as a readily available fix it's better than the current situation. I bet at least 90% of the squad would rather Kearney than McClennan for starters.

Plus Inu would still be here carving up if we had Kearney!
 

beefstew

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At the beginning of this season, I heard all around (including here) that the future of the Warriors was all about 'home grown talent' and 'we don't need/want any more players (Aussie, Kiwi, whoever) from across the ditch.

At the end of this season that talk has noticeably cooled!

I think our " home grown talent " is still the future of the club, it's just the time frame for it's success was a little naive.
 

beefstew

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Because everything I've heard/read points towards Kearney having a decent level of respect and is well like by plenty of NRL players. I know all the Kiwis seem to love him, and with what is currently happening Keanrey would have a much better chance of helping retain players like Mateo rather than McClennan, thats a no brainer.

And on another point, anyone here who would rather McClennan than Kearney as HC is crazy. It's not the best option (that would be someone like Folkes) but as a readily available fix it's better than the current situation. I bet at least 90% of the squad would rather Kearney than McClennan for starters.

Plus Inu would still be here carving up if we had Kearney!


90% of the squad huh?.....it's amazing how much you profess to know, and yet manage to be so wrong.:crazy:
 

Cheops

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No thanks. No other club is showing a remote amount of interest in him and there's a reason for that. If he wasn't a kiwi, we wouldn't be considering it either.

Get Folkes over here.
 

Fast Eddie

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90% of the squad huh?.....it's amazing how much you profess to know, and yet manage to be so wrong.:crazy:

Mine was a guess, unless you work closely with the Warriors squad I'd love to know how you can claim that it is wrong with any certainty. But with all the rumours, performances etc flying around it is pretty clear a lot of the players aren't happy with the coach. And for starters I'd say blokes like Mannering, Matulino, Rapira, Ropati, Manu, Locke etc are fans of Kearney with their experiences at International level under him. Go back to ragging on Manu, it was more tolerable than you trying to defend McClennan.

PS Beef stew is a f**king shit feed.
 
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Aragorn

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i really dont understand why all you people are so gay for steve folkes. the guy is a has-been,. look at the dragons - they`re a rubbish side now thanks to him and Price.

also go back to 07/08 when he coached the doggies and tell me how great a coach he is / was / and never will be again
 

beefstew

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Mine was a guess, unless you work closely with the Warriors squad I'd love to know how you can claim that it is wrong with any certainty. But with all the rumours, performances etc flying around it is pretty clear a lot of the players aren't happy with the coach. Go back to ragging on Manu, it was more tolerable than you trying to defend McClennan.

PS Beef stew is a f**king shit feed.


aww he's all mad, deep breaths buddy....you could try making up more stuff, or listen to more gossip and rumours and then treat them as fact, it's a very popular pass time for reactionist followers such as yourself.
 

Iafeta

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i really dont understand why all you people are so gay for steve folkes. the guy is a has-been,. look at the dragons - they`re a rubbish side now thanks to him and Price.

also go back to 07/08 when he coached the doggies and tell me how great a coach he is / was / and never will be again

He's got a 56% winning record, he's won a premiership, and he is an absolute fitness nut... His teams would generally go 80 minutes pretty hard.
 

Fast Eddie

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aww he's all mad, deep breaths buddy....you could try making up more stuff, or listen to more gossip and rumours and then treat them as fact, it's a very popular pass time for reactionist followers such as yourself.

Where did I treat them as fact? I used them as a base to make a guess/assumption. ozbash level of muppet you are. Reactionist follower? Don't even get me started....

Beef mince>Beef stew.
 

Aragorn

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He's got a 56% winning record, he's won a premiership, and he is an absolute fitness nut... His teams would generally go 80 minutes pretty hard.

In his prime as a coach perhaps, but not in his recent assignments. 2008 was a debacle. 2012 as the assistant coach for Price, the results are also not showing.
 

beefstew

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Where did I treat them as fact? I used them as a base to make a guess/assumption. ozbash level of muppet you are. Reactionist follower? Don't even get me started....

Beef mince>Beef stew.


Get you started?...for the sake of us all, please stop, your cheerleading for Kearney:crazy: and hate campaign against Bluey :roll: is petty and misguided at best....please go away.
 

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