Kemp fought with racist Knights teammates

[Eels Dude]

Thanks we will. You continue supporting your gutless, penalty milking club.

Gutless is a matter of opinion, my arguments were based on fact. But cheers, I shall, I know which side has more credibility and it's not yours.

 

[Nugby]

So you're not contesting the penalty milking accusation then, Dude?

 

[Eels Dude]

So you're not contesting the penalty milking accusation then, Dude?

Nup. All clubs milk penalties. It's part of the game. I'm not going to deny my team does it... you'd have to be a pretty naive person to think that every single clubs doesn't at least try to milk a few penalties every game they play.

 

[Rudderriffic]

Performance enhancing drugs, dealing recreational drugs, taking recreational drugs, and now team-mates abusing each other over their skin colour. Who knows what else has been happening down in the Newcastle club this past decade. Even Brian Smith couldn't flush out the bad seeds.

While up there on your high horse, why not have a look around? You are referencing events that happened twenty or so years ago. Keeping that time frame in mind, how many players from how many clubs (including your own) would have gone on to perform identical, or worse, actions and simply have not been caught? Wake up to yourself.

As for the Brian Smith comment, you do realise that he signed both Wicks and Houston, or does that fact make your death riding agenda seem hollow and without merit?

 

[Noname36]

Nup. All clubs milk penalties. It's part of the game. I'm not going to deny my team does it... you'd have to be a pretty naive person to think that every single clubs doesn't at least try to milk a few penalties every game they play.

Of course all clubs do it mate, but Parra are specialists. Just about every time Fui or Horo were tackled tonight they got up looking for a penalty.

 

[Spot On]

Does the current knights team have many "white" guys in it?

 

[Eels Dude]

While up there on your high horse, why not have a look around? You are referencing events that happened twenty or so years ago. Keeping that time frame in mind, how many players from how many clubs (including your own) would have gone on to perform identical, or worse, actions and simply have not been caught? Wake up to yourself.

As for the Brian Smith comment, you do realise that he signed both Wicks and Houston, or does that fact make your death riding agenda seem hollow and without merit?

I'm not on a high horse. Just stating facts. The stuff Joey got up to wasn't twenty years ago, it was 5-10 years ago. Just seems that every few months a new scandal about the culture there is at the Newcastle club is uncovered.

I'm not defending Brian Smith. He was hired to clean up the club's side and image after Michael Hagan left it in a complete mess. When it comes to coaching that's pretty much all that he's good for. But even then 2 players he signed managed to get away with (perhaps) dealing drugs right under his very nose.

 

[Eels Dude]

Of course all clubs do it mate, but Parra are specialists. Just about every time Fui or Horo were tackled tonight they got up looking for a penalty.

Maybe, not really sure who the best at it are. Teams are being coached to do it though so I don't think it makes a difference who's the best at it if all clubs are going in there with the same intention of milking penalties.

 

[Doug2234]

Who knows what else has been happening down in the Newcastle club this past decade.

UP!! You live at Northmead so Newcastle is UP!!! Or is Wollongong the new Newcastle???

Sorry pet hate big time...

 

[Eels Dude]

UP!! You live at Northmead so Newcastle is UP!!! Or is Wollongong the new Newcastle???

Sorry pet hate big time...

Cheers mate. I meant to write 'going down at Newcastle' as in something "going down" behind the scenes but must have typed happening instead. My error.

 

[whats up doc]

''There was [incidents] even with teammates but it was all part of it,'' Stewart said. ''I didn't feel there was an underlying message [of racism] - I overlooked it, gave them the benefit of the doubt. But all people are different and I knew Tony took things differently, he took it personally.''

This guys got the right idea. Even if they were racially motivated, be a man and let it slide off ya.

 

[Rudderriffic]

I'm not on a high horse. Just stating facts. The stuff Joey got up to wasn't twenty years ago, it was 5-10 years ago. Just seems that every few months a new scandal about the culture there is at the Newcastle club is uncovered.

I'm not defending Brian Smith.He was hired to clean up the club's side and image after Michael Hagan left it in a complete mess. When it comes to coaching that's pretty much all that he's good for. But even then 2 players he signed managed to get away with (perhaps) dealing drugs right under his very nose.

You're right, I didn't word that correctly, some of the occasions were up to twenty years ago. Even agreeing on your arbitrary 5-10 year time line it would be absurd to think that Newcastle are unique in having the only players to have been involved with illegal substances, and the only players making racial comments in that span of time. Hell, this past weekend the Telegraph ran a story involving two Roosters players and a member of the coaching staff in the abuse and sale of prescription medication. It's probably a nothing story, just like your post singling the Knights out for these issues is a nothing post when these issues are merely a drop in ocean of similar issues that occur every weekend reported, or unreported.

You're not defending Brian Smith, that's great, I'm not attacking him. My point was how moronic the last sentence of your original post was. Smith signed two of the players that contributed to the largest of the scandals you're referring to.

 

[Eels Dude]

You're right, I didn't word that correctly, some of the occasions were up to twenty years ago. Even agreeing on your arbitrary 5-10 year time line it would be absurd to think that Newcastle are unique in having the only players to have been involved with illegal substances, and the only players making racial comments in that span of time. Hell, this past weekend the Telegraph ran a story involving two Roosters players and a member of the coaching staff in the abuse and sale of prescription medication. It's probably a nothing story, just like your post singling the Knights out for these issues is a nothing post when these issues are merely a drop in ocean of similar issues that occur every weekend reported, or unreported.

You're not defending Brian Smith, that's great, I'm not attacking him. My point was how moronic the last sentence of your original post was. Smith signed two of the players that contributed to the largest of the scandals you're referring to.

Yeah probably. Just seems it's the Knight's have covered up a lot over the years. Even Joey admits in his book he was sure the club knew about all the stuff he was up to, but they let him get away with it so he kept on doing it.

In regards to my point was more to say that he was hired to clean up the club, but even he couldn't do it. Yes he did sign those blokes, but that's not the point. The problems with the club's culture were there long before that. I'm not having a dig at your club, I hope for your and other Knights fans sake they can turn their act around and become credible again, but having all these scandals break out certainly isn't helping.

 

[God-King Dean]

Does the current knights team have many "white" guys in it?

That's racist mang.

I'm gonna walk out of this thread. For my kids sake.

 

[whats up doc]

That's racist mang.

I'm gonna walk out of this thread. For my kids sake.

Are you making a joke about vietnamese people? This is why NRL is so racist. Im gonna take a stand and walk out and whinge to my news limited husband. NRL and its white australia policy...

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

Great. Doesn't make anything I said untrue though. Continue supporting your rascist drug dealing and cheating club.

You mean the racist remark that was made by a player that hasnt played for us in 3-4 years? And was said at a NSW training session, not a Newcastle Knights one?

Oh and with the drug dealing part, do you mean the two players we already stood down before the season even started because of that?

So how are both of them happening in our club?

And I honestly dont see how we are cheating? Please explain that bit to me aswell.

 

[Eels Dude]

You mean the racist remark that was made by a player that hasnt played for us in 3-4 years? And was said at a NSW training session, not a Newcastle Knights one?

Oh and with the drug dealing part, do you mean the two players we already stood down before the season even started because of that?

So how are both of them happening in our club?

And I honestly dont see how we are cheating? Please explain that bit to me aswell.

When it comes to the rascist comments... read the initial article in the OP which was what I was responding to. Kemp clearly refers to how he players were copping racial abuse from their team-mates when he was at the Knights. Not Joey, but from his team-mates in the club in general.

Great they stood em down, but that's not the point. The point is it was occuring while they were actually still playing for the club just last year. And even after Wicks was caught, there was a good couple of month time gap before Houston was charged... so who knows.

And yeah when I refer to cheating I refer to the 3 or 4 Newcastle players who in '98 were handed lengthy suspensions for using performance enhancing drugs.

I'm not saying anything of that is happening still, but there's certainly a fair few scandals which have occured in the Knights club in the past decade, stuff which management could clearly have prevented if they were doing their job properly.

 

[aqua_duck]

When it comes to the rascist comments... read the initial article in the OP which was what I was responding to. Kemp clearly refers to how he players were copping racial abuse from their team-mates when he was at the Knights. Not Joey, but from his team-mates in the club in general.

Great they stood em down, but that's not the point. The point is it was occuring while they were actually still playing for the club just last year. And even after Wicks was caught, there was a good couple of month time gap before Houston was charged... so who knows.

And yeah when I refer to cheating I refer to the 3 or 4 Newcastle players who in '98 were handed lengthy suspensions for using performance enhancing drugs.

I'm not saying anything of that is happening still, but there's certainly a fair few scandals which have occured in the Knights club in the past decade, stuff which management could clearly have prevented if they were doing their job properly.

The club acted as soon as police laid charges, really thats all the club can do, I mean unless you have a source that says the club knew about the drug dealing before the police investigation than your point isn't a valid one.

 

[Eels Dude]

The club acted as soon as police laid charges, really thats all the club can do, I mean unless you have a source that says the club knew about the drug dealing before the police investigation than your point isn't a valid one.

That's not my point. My point is that players were able to get away with doing this kind of stuff without the club knowing about it while it was going on. Someone involved in the club, players or staff etc should have known that a couple of their players were up to no good... If they didn't then that's fine but it really is poor management because when that sort of stuff occurs even Blindy Freddy would know something dodgy is going on.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Aaah Newcastle. What else could I possibly say about this disgrace of a club that I haven't already said?