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Knight Russell Packer jailed for two years

perverse

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BunniesMan did make some pretty outrageous sexual conquest claims. He was always going on about how pleasing he was in bed, how hot his missus was, etc.
 

Loudstrat

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Your life must have been truly shit if you consider Coffs a "glamoorous location".

Bunniesderp never claimed a glamorous sex life quite the opposite, he claimed he learnt all he knew about sex form big brother uplate, you need to do some more research.
Bunniesmans third alter ego? He's like Fat Kryon and his other names in his SBW worship cult.

Coffs Harbour is more glamorous that f*cking Broadmeadows you gimp.
 

Pierced Soul

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If a contract registration was refused on the grounds he has served prison time for assault; would not it be a restraint of plying ones trade?

It will be interesting, if it gets to that point.

is a person's "character" part of the criteria? i know that's up to interpretation, but i wonder whether clubs or the NRL would want someone in their employ who's committed a seriosu offence. I cnat see too many clubs sending packer to hospitals for charity events
 

magpie4ever

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is a person's "character" part of the criteria? i know that's up to interpretation, but i wonder whether clubs or the NRL would want someone in their employ who's committed a seriosu offence. I cnat see too many clubs sending packer to hospitals for charity events

Do I believe Packer is a good quality person? No

The pissing himself moments after taken the field, before kick-off; it was a show of contempt for his opposing players - grub.

The assualt charge, which he pleaded guilty too - brainless derp.

But, in saying that; when he finishes his sentence (whatever that finally is), he is entitled to ply his trade.

Who knows, maybe he will be deported with his passport stamped; not entitled to enter Australia. That would restrict where he could ply his trade.

Probably more questons than answers.
 

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Bunniesmans third alter ego? He's like Fat Kryon and his other names in his SBW worship cult.

Coffs Harbour is more glamorous that f*cking Broadmeadows you gimp.

Ipswich is more f**king glamorous than Broadmeadows you pole smoker.
 

betcats

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Do I believe Packer is a good quality person? No

The pissing himself moments after taken the field, before kick-off; it was a show of contempt for his opposing players - grub.

The assualt charge, which he pleaded guilty too - brainless derp.

But, in saying that; when he finishes his sentence (whatever that finally is), he is entitled to ply his trade.

Who knows, maybe he will be deported with his passport stamped; not entitled to enter Australia. That would restrict where he could ply his trade.

Probably more questons than answers.

I disagree. Why is he entilted to play in the NRL? He brought the game into disrepute and is convited of a violent crime, imo that is enough to tell him he isnt wanted(I know this is unlikely to happen).

How would it be different from employers who do police background checks before hiring?

I am fairly certain if I had the same conviction as Russel I wouldnt get another job in my industry.
 

magpie4ever

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I disagree. Why is he entilted to play in the NRL? He brought the game into disrepute and is convited of a violent crime, imo that is enough to tell him he isnt wanted(I know this is unlikely to happen).

How would it be different from employers who do police background checks before hiring?

I am fairly certain if I had the same conviction as Russel I wouldnt get another job in my industry.

That depends on the industry, should committing a crime restrict a person playing a contact sport?

I think it is more to do with plying one's trade and a restraint of trade. That's how they (players and their union) got rid of the draft.

I'm not supporting this bloke, just putting forward reasons he could be allow back into the NRL.
 

redvscotty

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Sure, the NRL have to let anyone play regardless of anything because otherwise their restraining ones trade.

Can't wait for the first woman player.
 

magpie4ever

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Sure, the NRL have to let anyone play regardless of anything because otherwise their restraining ones trade.

Can't wait for the first woman player.

You are totally missing the point, there would need to be an offer from a NRL club.

And, yes; if a club signed a woman than it would go to court if she was refused permission to play by the governing body due to her being a woman (in this case, the NRL).

These are the facts in a modern society. No men-only clubs.

Do I agree. I wont answer that.
 

magpie4ever

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No they don't, who plays in the NRL is up to the ARLC

I think the AJC had the same idea about female jockeys about 40 years ago.

If, as unlikely it is, it actually happened; it would likely go to court.

Again, do i like this fact. No comment.

But that's is reality; dont shot the messenger.

Sorry, i might have misread your post, above.
 

Charlie124

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Its not restraint of trade at all, nobody is stopping him from playing football when he gets out of jail. But the NRL dont have to allow him or anyone else into their competition just because they can play the sport. Restraint of trade would be not letting him play in the NRL while also preventing him from playing anywhere else.
 

magpie4ever

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Its not restraint of trade at all, nobody is stopping him from playing football when he gets out of jail. But the NRL dont have to allow him or anyone else into their competition just because they can play the sport. Restraint of trade would be not letting him play in the NRL while also preventing him from playing anywhere else.

Maybe, you could be right; Charlie.

But remember it would all depend on an NRL club signing or wanting to sign him.
 
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COMMENT: Packer backflip by Knights
By ROBERT DILLON Jan. 13, 2014, 10:30 p.m.


NEWCASTLE Knights officials can put whatever spin on it they like.

The bottom line is this simple: they knew what Russell Packer had done, they knew he would plead guilty.

Yet still they harboured hopes that he would be allowed to run out in the NRL wearing the red and blue, representing the people of the Hunter Valley, at least until magistrate Greg Grogin kicked those plans into touch eight days ago.

All these phrases such as ‘‘duty of care’’ and ‘‘legal process’’ are best answered by a two-word reply: Marvin Filipo.

Last year the Knights sacked Filipo after an off-field altercation that did not result in criminal charges.

Exactly what Filipo did has never been revealed by Knights management, who indeed did not even disclose that he had been terminated until the Newcastle Herald contacted them more than a week later.

But suffice to say that, given he did not end up in court, let alone jail, it is unlikely Filipo beat a complete stranger unconscious and continued to punch him and stomp on his head while he lay motionless, leaving his victim with a fractured eye socket.

The difference between Filipo and Packer is that the former was a fringe first-grader with a handful of NRL games to his name, and hence expendable. The latter was a key signing on a four-year contract reported to be worth $400,000 a year.

The Knights were apparently so desperate to keep Packer that they were willing to forgive his moment of madness. Call it bending their own rules.

So they liaised with the NRL and were jumping through the required hoops, in the hope that the former Kiwi Test prop, whose registration had been withdrawn by the governing body, would eventually be given the all-clear to resume playing.

All they needed was magistrate Grogin to hand down a good-behaviour bond, community service and/or suspended sentence.

Instead he sent Packer to jail for two years, leaving Knights management in a dilemma of their own making and dealing with a backlash from fans and the media.

Yesterday the club issued a statement announcing the 24-year-old’s contract had been terminated and attempting to justify their course of action.

Any delay in dismissing Packer was attributed to ‘‘legal process’’ and the need to deliver the news face to face – in prison.

But in analysing yesterday’s release and comparing it to the ‘‘considered response’’ the club posted on its website last Tuesday, 24 hours after Packer was jailed, two points stand out.

Firstly, CEO Matt Gidley’s comment yesterday that ‘‘there was never any doubt we would terminate Russell’s employment following Monday’s sentence’’.

The key word here is ‘‘following’’.

Why did the Knights have to wait until after Packer was jailed to reach such a decision?

As stated previously, they knew what he had done. They knew he would plead guilty to a brutal crime.

When Knights coach Wayne Bennett was at Brisbane the club sacked sacked Neville Costigan, Brett Seymour, Ian Lacey and John Te Reo for alcohol-related incidents before any of them had appeared in court. So much for ‘‘legal process’’.

That brings us to point two. In last week’s ‘‘considered response’’ the Knights stated that they ‘‘would allow the legal process to be completed before making any decision on [Packer’s] future’’.

Given that his appeal will not be heard until February 11, how is the legal process ‘‘complete’’?

The obvious conclusion is that it finally dawned on the Knights that there was no point trying to defend the indefensible.

The whole business was a public-relations nightmare and every day they delayed a decision was tarnishing the club’s reputation.

With a ‘‘sack Packer’’ online petition in the process of going viral and his appeal hearing still almost a month away, Knights officials performed a backflip.

All of which could have been avoided had they shown a modicum of common sense and dismissed the former Warriors forward as soon as they learned full details of his crime last November and his intention to plead guilty.

Had they done so, while stating their intention to honour their ‘‘duty of care’’ to Packer’s wife and their two young children, they would probably have been commended.

If the Knights failed to grasp the gravity of Packer’s offence, that should perhaps be no surprise.

This is the same club who complained bitterly last year when players such as Jeremy Smith and Kade Snowden received long-term suspensions for incidents that left opponents unconscious and with a broken jaw respectively.

It is also a club who have been willing to sign players with controversial pasts, apparently because they could toughen up a team Bennett felt did not cause rivals too many ‘‘sleepless nights’’ in his first season.

In the case of Packer, while he was a first offender in the court system, that was hardly the case on the field of play.

Three episodes during his short-lived career stick in the memory: elbowing Darren Lockyer in the face in a Test match in the champion’s comeback from a broken cheekbone, urinating through his shorts before kick-off in a game against Brisbane last year, and a heavyweight punch-up with Knights prop Kade Snowden at Mt Smart Stadium last season.

Clearly discipline was not Packer’s strong suit, although apparently this escaped Newcastle’s ‘‘due diligence’’.


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Nobody, of course, could have foreseen his drunken brain explosion last November. But the Knights’ response has been inexplicable.

In trying to salvage the career of one player, a blow-in who had not even made his Newcastle debut, they have allowed the club’s name to be dragged into the gutter.

Better late than never, but it should not have taken until yesterday for sanity to prevail.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2020929/comment-packer-backflip-by-knights/?cs=306
 

Charlie124

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Maybe, you could be right; Charlie.

But remember it would all depend on an NRL club signing or wanting to sign him.

Not really, the club isn't the boss, the NRL is the boss. They dont need to justify to the club why they wont register his contract (as if it needs to be explained anyway), if they dont want to register him they wont and he'd be free to go play football or any other sport he wants wherever he wants.
 

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