Knights V's Dragons- Post match talk.

[~bedsy~]

The whole team made to many mistakes... It was really disgracefull.
I wanted to turn off the telly, but I can never do it, I feel like the fans who leave the ground early when their team is losing... I really hate that.

 

[Simplycheeky]

I know exactly what you're feeling Ian.....I spent the afternoon slamming doors and basically being annoyed at my family,really for a game that wasn't their fault...but unfortunately I am a passionate supporter and as much as I try to say to myself that its only a game I still get the Shits when they play like they did this afternoon!

 

[thuganomics]

Guess whats gonna be in the media!

Knights cant win without Johns!
:x :x :x

 

[keeney]

oh jesus i have too many crap saints fans as friends, ive been copping ti all afternoon, adn i get so fkn worked up, im like your piece of shit inconsistent team is the one that wil be fighting for the spoon we were missing half our first garde squad, adn then i ahve to list why we wont get the spoona dn there all like sure sure, adn cause me to write ridculous tirades wiht no punctuation and a lack of correct spelling

 

[~bedsy~]

This has nothing to do with Johns... these boys had so many chances to win and they let it go because of really silly mistakes.

 

[mrford61]

I thought Young debuted Ok at fullback, seems game and defense was ok. Is he nomally a fullback?

The Dragons had their tails up today, Kennedy and Kidley were smothered and there was noone else to organise attack.
It was like under7,s just one off running asking absolutely nothing of the defense so they were taking mammoth hits.
Matt gidley was wasted as a centre because the ball never got that far, may as well let Fizgerald stand out there and watch the game and brought Gidley in to try and excite something.

If Witt is not the answer then I reckon it,s Matt Gidley to 5/8 and Tahu to centre. Quinn, Hughes, Carmont ,Hall, Richardson fight for the wing spots.

I Know Gids and Tahu are an awesome centre / wing combo but not much good if we cant service them efficiently. All we need is a fast winger to keep up with Tahu as the same combo breaks the line time after time just a bit further in field.

I,m just drbbling now ........ chins up peoples.

 

[Misanthrope]

Absolutely embarassing display. I've never seen the Knights play with so little passion. Injuries hurt us, but it didn't look like any of them cared out there. Buderus and Kennedy tried from time to time- but it wasn't much.

Youngy was awful at the back, clearly nervous. Richardson and Carmont have no cohesion in defence- and it got shown up. Kidley was pedestrian, and our kicking game was non-existent save for one or two promising grubbers. Aside from BK hitting some good tackles, no one even looked like they cared.

If we play like that again, NZ will put sixty on us.

 

[Doctor]

the defence in the second half was just awful. that gap up the middle for barrett to score - why not just give him a written invitation to the try line? the defence of round one has disappeared.

Absolutely - don't ask me where all our players went in that situation.

Michael Young had one mistake that may marr what was otherwise a good game from him. It's pretty tough coming into first grade as a starting fullback, and performing in normal conditions let alone slippery ones.

Ordinary performances from Carmont, Hall, Matt Gidley and co - they looked like reserves out there today, but for contrasting reasons:

Carmont's ball security is a worry - it's the first game I've seen of him play and first impressions tell a pretty interesting story - he's sus when he has dodgy players around him. IMHO he was made to look good when Johns and co were giving him good ball - a couple of decent steps or a lazy defender and you're in. Today he looked out of his depth - hopefully not a sign of the future.

Hall - someone please explain to me why you leave a grubbering ball to be scored off when it is right there in front of you....... based on form Hall's position is dicey, very dicey.

As for M.Gidley - where was he? He had the ball a couple of times but just wasn't involved. I thought his passing game might have either provided for an expansive backline passing movement (ala Johns) or perhaps those sneaky pop-passess would find runners like Kennedy, Abraham or Richardson - we saw nothing of the sort, he looked ordinary and unwilling to be involved - merely a middleman on the road to defeat.

Great performances from Buderus, Kurt, Young, Richardson (when he wasn't dropping the ball), Lowrie, Abraham, and to an extent Kennedy. BK was targetted and the lack of other big men like Parsons didn't help him shrug off the extra defenders.

It was a concerted defensive effort from the Dragons - they shut us down, capitalised on most opportunities, and exposed the Knights' premier leaguers as being incapable of playing with the big boys.

But worry not - the John Hunter rugby league team is looking better than our current side - you take 8 players out of any first grade team, from key positions, and I'll bet no side could compete with the Dragons today.

Good signs for the future though - big wraps for Young on debut.

 

[keeney]

young tried ahrd and wasnt bad, BUT he did make that one giant error and everytime he hit it up he got SMASHED, without fail everytime he looked winded from each hit

 

[Doctor]

I thought Young debuted Ok at fullback, seems game and defense was ok. Is he nomally a fullback?

I thought he did well too - one big mistake but I can't name more than three or four players who played better than him. Let's face it: most of our side was awful.

He is Premier League's regular fullback.
The irony is that he is used to playing behind a dodgy backline. Having finally made the top grade, he might have expected to finally have an opportunity to play fullback behind a quality side - this was not the case.

The Premier League side came up with him just about - once again he is left trying to clean up after the mistakes of the 12 men in front of him. Line breaks galore, poor defense from Perry and co, and too many holes - a fullback's nightmare.

Given Tahu's dropsies for his first few first grade games, I'll give Young plenty of marks for effort, attack and defence today. One mistake in his own in-goal didn't help - but eight other tries occurred because of the rest of the side's inertia in defence, so you can't say the rest of the side played any better.

Pretty good debut.

 

[mrford61]

Youngy was awful at the back, clearly nervous.

Personally I liked his style, I reckon he will make it in the big time.

 

[thuganomics]

YOungs performance, good, but Nervous/

 

[antonius]

I thought Young went OK at fullback, as said it's prob one of the most difficult positions to play on a day like today, and with so many of our top players missing he had a lot of work to do, he caught out a couple of times, and would've have been pretty nervous. Kidley did a ton of work in defence, and tried his guts out, as did Bederus, Abes, Wooly and Perry, Losing Parso didn't help the cause much either. Hall was woefull, one of the worst out there, as said, Carmont and Richardson had no comunication between them and were made to look pretty ordinary quite a few times. Matt Gidley did what he always does when we're down a few senior players, he went missing, where was he? our attack had nothing we didn't look like scoring, Kidley needs to go back to 5/8th, and try Witt at Half. Fitzgerald is not the answer partnering Kidley we learnt that much from todays game. In the end we just had too many wounded soldiers out today and it showed big time. Sure everyone will jump on the "you can't play without Johns" bandwagon, but with a few back next week I think we'll see a much better effort from the team, one things for sure it couldn't get much worse than today.

 

[Doctor]

Youngy was awful at the back, clearly nervous.

Personally I liked his style, I reckon he will make it in the big time.

Those who have seen him in Premier League won't have noticed much difference to his style - he may look nervous, and perhaps he is, but I thought he conducted himself well.

He got smashed, but he hasn't changed his technique - he doesn't stuff around like an Adam MacDougall, looking for an opening. He'll run at the gap, see about stepping around a few on the way, but essentially just look to make those metres back up.

He was quite safe under the high-ball, seemingly comfortable with distance-finding kicks and despite his big blunder in the goals, he can lift his head up after a good performance.

He isn't a superstar, perhaps he won't ever reach 'superstar' status - but he gets the job done, and is sensible - I'd sooner see Young back next week than allow the three stooges Hall, Carmont and no-name-McGee back in.

What was the rest of the backline anyway?
1. Young
2. Hall
3. ?????
4. Richardson
5. Carmont

 

[thuganomics]

Your on the ball Antonius

 

[Johns Magic]

Despite getting the sh!t kicked out of us today I thought that one extremely encouraging aspect was Price. Every time I have seen him play, he has tried his guts out, amd he actually goes into tackles viciously, and doesn't succumb with out putting up a fight- if only some of the other forwards were like that *cough, Parsons*. Today I thought that Price showed courage and determination, as he took it up with the same passion every tackle, regardless of the score. He's the sort of forward that you'd want playing for you. Now all we have to do is work out a way of keeping him uninjured....

 

[Holla if ya hear me]

Well...If we keep dealing up this crap then the season is already gone!
So much for the team being Gooster clones!-it was pathetic and i hope that Hagan gives it to them
As kennedy said-Talk is cheap-well if that the action-Cant score a try in 80 min. of Football!
Come on people-lets not colour it rosy
It was pathetic and inept.
48 points -PPPPPPFFFFTTTTT!
It was over after 10min.

 

[~bedsy~]

I knew we wouldn't win buy half-time.... however I didn't think we would lose like that. It's really embarassing. #-o

 

[Razor]

Just finished watching the match on Fox Sports (Channel 9 here showed Brisbane-Storm after the same match was on Fox Sports)

Great performance by Buderus.

Poor performance by most of the rest of the team, especially Young, Richardson, and Carmont.

 

[IanG]

Well well im sorry you got hammered by such a scoreline but my god im happy to be a saints fan today :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Yeah yeah yeah rub it in why don't you. YOU CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!