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KOE (ex Canterbury Cup) and Jersey Flegg

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Desperate Dragon

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Was also at Lidcombe Oval today for the first time in around 35/40 years.
Still looks pretty much the same as my last visit.
I have a fairly similar view as @TheRev regarding our KOE squad.
Today, Finau (winger), Lobb, Herring and Stewart were all solid.
There was a strong breeze blowing across the ground from the west and Stewart, who I regard as a heart attack player at times, was very safe today.
The Couchman brothers were also solid.
Toby to me is at a more advanced stage of his development, but today was wearing plenty of tape around his left knee, although it did not appear to hinder him too much.
Off the bench, the two Manly boys also look very promising.
Whilst they are both big bodies, Fifita is a bit taller and looks a little slimmer.
Not much to say about the opposition, except Dane Laurie is too good in my view to be playing KOE Cup football.
 
KogarahWarrior

KogarahWarrior

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Desperate Dragon said:
Was also at Lidcombe Oval today for the first time in around 35/40 years.
Still looks pretty much the same as my last visit.
I have a fairly similar view as @TheRev regarding our KOE squad.
Today, Finau (winger), Lobb, Herring and Stewart were all solid.
There was a strong breeze blowing across the ground from the west and Stewart, who I regard as a heart attack player at times, was very safe today.
The Couchman brothers were also solid.
Toby to me is at a more advanced stage of his development, but today was wearing plenty of tape around his left knee, although it did not appear to hinder him too much.
Off the bench, the two Manly boys also look very promising.
Whilst they are both big bodies, Fifita is a bit taller and looks a little slimmer.
Not much to say about the opposition, except Dane Laurie is too good in my view to be playing KOE Cup football.
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Daine wasn't playing today, I think he's off
 
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KogarahWarrior

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Desperate Dragon said:
My apologies @KogarahWarrior.
I checked the team lists when I got to the ground and I am sure Laurie was listed as the number 1.
The player listed now, Ogden, was very solid behind a well beaten team.
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No need to apologise DD! The KOE teamlists seem to change at the strangest moments. I was sure as well that Laurie was named, too. It was only when I checked the teamlists mid-game that I realised he wasn't there.
 
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Jeremy Dragon

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Desperate Dragon said:
Was also at Lidcombe Oval today for the first time in around 35/40 years.
Still looks pretty much the same as my last visit.
I have a fairly similar view as @TheRev regarding our KOE squad.
Today, Finau (winger), Lobb, Herring and Stewart were all solid.
There was a strong breeze blowing across the ground from the west and Stewart, who I regard as a heart attack player at times, was very safe today.
The Couchman brothers were also solid.
Toby to me is at a more advanced stage of his development, but today was wearing plenty of tape around his left knee, although it did not appear to hinder him too much.
Off the bench, the two Manly boys also look very promising.
Whilst they are both big bodies, Fifita is a bit taller and looks a little slimmer.
Not much to say about the opposition, except Dane Laurie is too good in my view to be playing KOE Cup football.
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Toby has a few stitches in his knee
 
KogarahWarrior

KogarahWarrior

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Highlights are out. Herring played very well, so did Stewart. R. Couchman great offloading. I can't speak highly enough about that Sione Finau's performance. Speed was great, great skill too. Ended up with 2 tries and an assist. Very big and strong. Someone we need to hold onto because other clubs would snap him up imo.
 
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Wolfgang90

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KogarahWarrior said:
Highlights are out. Herring played very well, so did Stewart. R. Couchman great offloading. I can't speak highly enough about that Sione Finau's performance. Speed was great, great skill too. Ended up with 2 tries and an assist. Very big and strong. Someone we need to hold onto because other clubs would snap him up imo.
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How do we not have the size of our reserves players. What a joke. They need to televise every reserve game too. We have highschool games streamed but can't do it with the reserves comps. Pathetic.
 
AyiosYiorgos

AyiosYiorgos

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KogarahWarrior said:
Highlights are out. Herring played very well, so did Stewart. R. Couchman great offloading. I can't speak highly enough about that Sione Finau's performance. Speed was great, great skill too. Ended up with 2 tries and an assist. Very big and strong. Someone we need to hold onto because other clubs would snap him up imo.
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Herring looks good, left foot kicker as well, good to see Sione playing well had my doubts about both brothers hopefully they both kick on
 
KogarahWarrior

KogarahWarrior

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AyiosYiorgos said:
Herring looks good, left foot kicker as well, good to see Sione playing well had my doubts about both brothers hopefully they both kick on
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Initially, I had my doubts on Haele's defence and his smarts from DH. Sione, I always thought was an exceptionally talented athlete with the physical attributes to be a star winger, but needed a LOT of development before we'd see him improve. It's good to see he's starting to become more instinctive and backing himself, as seen with the intercept and try assist kick. These boys are from VIC so I'd assume they wouldn't have much proper guidance untilt hey hit the Storm system, which doesn't develop many jnrs in the first place.

For me, I think you can determine the quality of players in Reggies based on the stats for their position since you can't really watch the games.

FB/Wing/Centre: PCM, Tackle breaks. (Fb and centre more try assists, Centre defence e.g. tackles made, completed and missed).
Halves: kick metres, try assists, line break assists.

With forwards, it's a different story. We've seen many reserve grade forwards not quite be up to the standard of NRL-type contact. So usually, I look for skills such as offloads, as well as workrate. That's high completion rate in terms of tackles, many runs made and many post-contact metres, and to an extent, tackle breaks if it's a second rower. I noticed that in Hopgood, and currently, Penrith's Liam Henry who I believe could be a great prop. Run metres alone usually aren't the best indicator - we saw Lachlan Timm make plenty of those but imo tackling ability and tackle count is also huge as well as offloading to be able to tell if someone can be a big-minute forward.
 
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Dragonsteve2

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It's good to get some good news with all the crap associated with our SoO rep going on. So well done to KOE and Flegg teams!

As I watched the KOE highlights, the thought struck me that, with Flanagan coming on board, we may be better at working out who to keep and who to let go from our lower grades. Clearly our current situation has been affected by some of the guys we let in the last 5-6 years, Robson and Garrick being two prime examples.
 
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