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WireMan

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Madrid drop points again to last-placed Osasuna.

Mourinho won't see the week out I reckon.

i think they have given the league up.

Its all on the United game now.
Which is annoying as i'd prefer them to be challenging in the league.
 

Big Sam

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They're playing Valencia in the Copa del Rey quarter finals the next two weeks.

If they get knocked out of that, I don't think he'll even make it to the United tie.
 

Big Sam

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Also Barca now 18 points clear of Madrid and 11 of Atletico. That massive margin will make them even more dangerous in Europe. None of the other main contenders (with the exception of maybe Bayern) will have the luxury to rest/rotate their main players like Barca.
 

Big Sam

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An interesting excerpt from an article describing the current broadcast situation in La Liga:
Rayo Vallecano aim for Europe while bemoaning manic Mondays

With a squad in constant flux, doubts about their ground and bizarre kick-off times, it's a wonder Rayo are playing so well

New season, new enthusiasm, new hopes … an empty stand? Down in the Independent Republic of Vallecas, the protests started on the very first day. Rayo Vallecano emerged from the tunnel and into the silence. At one end of the stadium, a wall; at the other, the end that actually is an end, concrete steps and plastic seats with no one on them. Soon, a handful of fans occupied the open space holding banners directed at the vice-president of the league, Javier Tebas. "If football belongs to Tebas, let his f**king mother cheer them on," it ran.

Another declared: "For working, for looking for work, for studying, for getting rid of your hangover … Mondays are good for many things, but not for football." Cramped into the corner, the fans who had evacuated the end brandished a tarpaulin with the slogan: "For dignified timetables." And along the bottom of the empty section behind the goal, a clear message: "No to football on Mondays." Both of them are still there. They've been joined periodically by others: before their final game of 2012 there was a colossal a work of art, depicting a dominatrix whipping Rayo's servile president and ordering him to play on the days that she says.

It wasn't actually a Monday – Rayo's first game of the season was held on a Sunday night at 9.30pm, while the following week they played at noon – but the protest was for everyone's sake and it soon would be Mondays. "Mondays are killing us," complained the coach, Paco Jémez. The good news is that so far he has been proven wrong; Rayo are very much alive.

It is not just Mondays, it is Fridays too. This season, the league has used 14 different time slots, from midday to 11pm and the "weekend" games are spread across four days. There is one game on Friday, one on Monday and the rest on Saturday and Sunday. That is not necessarily in itself a problem – plenty of leagues have Friday or Monday slots – and it could even be seen as a good thing: the week's one free-to-air game is on Monday or Friday, so if you occupy that slot at least you get seen.

Only you don't, not really. The free-to-air game is being moved by channel and by day and squeezed (there have even been a handful of Saturday games). It is part of a barely concealed but never admitted plan to undermine the concept of "general interest", currently enshrined in law, and push instead for every game to be on subscription channels: viewing figures have tumbled from last year's regular Saturday night slot, which often included the league's best game, thus providing the perfect excuse to take that game off terrestrial TV.

Because kick-off dates and times are not confirmed until around three weeks to a fortnight before – and that's an improvement – fans have to wait. And hope. This Friday, Rayo's Bukaneros fans club was unable to travel to Bilbao. Then there are the forgotten victims of Spain's failure to fix match days well in advance: the teams themselves, the coaches who prepare for a game not knowing when it is and how many days' training they have.

When they get Monday or Friday, there is also something intangible about it that says: you don't matter. Out on a limb, in a kind of limbo, it is as if the games don't really form part of the weekend. Especially if you play on a Monday, especially if the free-to-air game was Friday: the round-up shows have been and gone, the wraps, the columns*. And you're not there. They're not going to wait for you. Certainly not if it's you. And all too often it is.

Madrid and Barcelona have not been on a single free-to-air game this season. None of the European teams have. Meanwhile, Rayo have been forced to play on Friday or a Monday more times than anyone else; given the slot no one wants. They had a run of Thursday, Monday, Monday, Friday, Monday. And of their past nine games, fewer than half have been played on a Saturday or Sunday. Of those, only even carried the consolation of being free-to-air on telly. "We may be humble but we're not idiots," said Jémez.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/14/rayo-vallecano-la-liga-monday-fixtures

Here we were complaining (before season 2013) about not having the NRL season scheduled on full when in Spain they barely organise the rounds 2 weeks before they're played.
 

langpark

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I have no sympathy for Mourinho after his little stunt in dropping Casillas. Very glad to see it horribly backfire too!...
 

langpark

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yeah, but it was great show of solidarity and respect from Ronaldo... and good of Casillas to refuse...
 

ME SO HORNBY!

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There is obviously shit going on at Real Madrid. If Casillas is undermining Mourinho's authority and he wants to make an example of him then I have no problem with Casillas being dropped. No body, regardless of how great they are, are exempt from being made an example of.

If the board realise the situation is untenable, then it is their job to sack Mourinho. But until such time, he remains in charge and needs to be shown respect as well as make an example of players not buying into his direction and plans for the team.

Many will disagree but each to their own.
 

langpark

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Well, none of us know the 'behind the scenes' situation, but if on-field conduct is anything to go by, then Casillas (be it on national or club duty) would be up there as one of the biggest gentlemen in the game, whereas Mourinho would be the opposite...

I could name 10 players in the starting XI that would be more likely troublemakers than Casillas!
 

ME SO HORNBY!

Juniors
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^ Yes but IF Casillas has undermined Mourinho, even just by questioning some of his decisions in front of other players, he as Captain would have a huge influence on his team mates.

Also by dropping Casillas, Mourinho sends the message that if he can be dropped, anybody can.

I just have a feeling that Mourinho has lost the support in the change rooms and that the players are revolting and when this happens it is usually lead by senior players.
 

langpark

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it's about time! Would love to see a few more losses + a few wins for Atletico, just to make it more interesting for all us neutrals.

Imagine what the live betting odds were when it was 0-2!...
 

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