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lateral pass from backs/recievers

nqcowboy87

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i was just wondering ive onl;y just gotten into american football and i was wondering once a play has started and a player has made a brteak downfield if defence is closing in and he has a teammate behind him that isnt blocking could he then pass backwards to the player who could then run the ball into the endzone for a touchdown like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDE_FLKLhw
 

Paullyboy

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I've always wondered that myself, I put it down to them growing up not considering it an option. How hard is it to catch a lateral?
 

nqcowboy87

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it just seems like it would be the best way to keep the ball moving for more yardage and it really isnt that hard to do
 

Big Tim

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nqcowboy87 said:
it just seems like it would be the best way to keep the ball moving for more yardage and it really isnt that hard to do

Put on pads and a helmet and say that.

You lose so much vision wearing a helmet that you wouldnt be able to see the pitch coming in most cases.... RB's and QB's both know it is coming.... as a snap decision you can never guarantee the receiver is going to even know it is coming.

It is also not advisable to do it to a player who isnt a DB, RB or WR as the pads they wear are quite restrictive when it some to a catching motion.
 

eastsrule

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Teams should do it more. Problem is the role of nay players remotely near the ball carrier is to block.

There has been some awesome plays where the receiver catches the ball and immediately turns around facing his own endzone which draws the defence in and another reciever runs around and catches a lateral.
 

dragonfire

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i think it would really have to be a play where it is sort of incorporated as an option, perhaps two recievers slanting into each across the middle or have it on a hitch route for an immediate hand off. Good thing about it would be the speed at which the change of direction occurs would leave the 2nd guy in the open more often than not
 

Cupid Stunt

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nqcowboy87 said:
i was just wondering ive onl;y just gotten into american football and i was wondering once a play has started and a player has made a brteak downfield if defence is closing in and he has a teammate behind him that isnt blocking could he then pass backwards to the player who could then run the ball into the endzone for a touchdown like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDE_FLKLhw

I watched this a few days ago & the single biggest reason this wouldn't happen in the NFL is ths D would never go to sleep like that. If you watch whats going on around the field AWAY from the ball the D players all just stand still & watch. Even if you push it back to a good HS side, a well coached unit would simply be laying out O guys left & right while the ball is live & not just ball watching.
 

Eelementary

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With the calibre of defensive linesmen and linebackers these days, I doubt it would be too successful.
 

Stonecutter

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Doing a lateral on a break at full speed is highly risky. Even in the NRL at full speed not all passes go to hand with defenders floating around. Add to that the fact that a lateral rarely happens, the player about to recieve wouldn't know what's going on until it's too late. I remember see this last year on a 4th down play. A RB was held up just shy of the FD marker and lateralled to a player near him which couldn't react in time and as Chris Bermans says " FUMBLLLEEEE".
 

Big Tim

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dragonfire said:
i think it would really have to be a play where it is sort of incorporated as an option, perhaps two recievers slanting into each across the middle or have it on a hitch route for an immediate hand off. Good thing about it would be the speed at which the change of direction occurs would leave the 2nd guy in the open more often than not

Alot of college teams run the option play. As the QB in most teams is the most gifted athelete, he runs off tackle and has the "option" to pitch the ball to the running back after drawing the defender.... or sometimes they will dummy.

Only QB's like Vince Young would be successful at this kind of play.... though I dont think LenDale White could keep up with the play :shock: :lol:
 

dragonfire

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Big Tim said:
Alot of college teams run the option play. As the QB in most teams is the most gifted athelete, he runs off tackle and has the "option" to pitch the ball to the running back after drawing the defender.... or sometimes they will dummy.

Only QB's like Vince Young would be successful at this kind of play.... though I dont think LenDale White could keep up with the play :shock: :lol:

Dennis Dixon seemed to excel at this, though it helps having a RB as good as Stewart and vice versa.

What i was trying to get at was have a guy with speed like Hester out wide, get him to burn 15-20 yards up field then hitch back which leaves his CB behind him, at the same time have a tight end on the same side run straight 10-15 yards and cut hard to the sideline. Hester gets the ball and has teh option to either hand it off and give the TE a good block or option it sucking in the TE cover guy and his own player giving him the time to get into some open field. BTW does anyone else think Hester is playing well at WR for the Bears? Given more experience at the position he is definitely a threat everytime he touches the ball
 

Dazzelx01

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Patriots play today was kind of a lateral style play with Brady to Moss to Brady to Gaffney. Awesome trick play, although not the kind of lateral pass you guys are thinking of.
 

nqcowboy87

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maybe it would be an option as a desperation play on 3rd and long maybe haveing a wr and te running slants and the te pop passing(which isnt too hard i suppose) it to the wr who may or may not have a clear run downfield providing the sfaeties and cornerbacks are pre-occupied
 

Big Tim

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Again, I dont think they work to well in the NFL because the players are drilled into about their roles and not abandoning them.

I think the only reason the trick play by the Pats worked so well was because of the fumble by Moss.... even though the D is told not to leave their assignment, they are told to get on the ball if there is a fumble.

I think the fumble was the key to the play.
 

legend

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That play is called a flea flicker. I love that play. It's one of thos special NFL plays like a safety and onside kick that really get the crowd excited.
 

eastsrule

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The Pats intended to use it on the Ravens. The play was called a 'Raven Special'.

It is the exact same play the steelers used last year against the Bengals.

What a great play it was and Jabbar Gaffney has been amazing this year.
 

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