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Willow

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With Rugby Australia in trouble and the players striking wonder if there are sone poachable players there? Someone like Tom Banks from the Brumbies would make a pretty handy winger I reckon. Or even the SL, are there any outside backs running around looking for a shot? We are struggling in the market, I think we need to think outside the box.
Signing former Rugby Union players? Never heard of such a thing.

Finding RU players that are up to standard isn't as easy as it used to be. In recent years, plenty of Rugby League players have switched to RU and played international. Not so many the other way around, Scott Gourley is the last one I can think of. Happy to be corrected.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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Signing former Rugby Union players? Never heard of such a thing.

Finding RU players that are up to standard isn't as easy as it used to be. In recent years, plenty of Rugby League players have switched to RU and played international. Not so many the other way around, Scott Gourley is the last one I can think of. Happy to be corrected.
Yeah no doubt the standards are not as high but I reckon a Michael Hooper would be a good backrower, Beale could probably go well although he’s overseas. And as I mentioned Tom Banks. Surely as a winger or centre it’s not as hard. He’s tall and fast has good ball handling and can kick and pass. He’d surely give Rava or EA a run for their money.
 

Blood&Bandage

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Signing former Rugby Union players? Never heard of such a thing.

Finding RU players that are up to standard isn't as easy as it used to be. In recent years, plenty of Rugby League players have switched to RU and played international. Not so many the other way around, Scott Gourley is the last one I can think of. Happy to be corrected.
I guess we haven’t seen Rugby players coming to league because of the money they are on. Guys like Ray Price, Ricky Stewart, Michael O’Conner, Wally Lewis....came to league for money.

I think Angus Creighton, Luke Keary and Cameron Murray came from Rugby?
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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I guess we haven’t seen Rugby players coming to league because of the money they are on. Guys like Ray Price, Ricky Stewart, Michael O’Conner, Wally Lewis....came to league for money.

I think Angus Creighton, Luke Keary and Cameron Murray came from Rugby?
Thing is the way are thinking of structuring the pay now is the top tier players will get the lions share but any fringe Wallabies will be on considerably less. If they decide to strike or sit out the season maybe we could make an offer just to fill out this season with us to fill our squad and keep them fit. I just think it would be interesting to see
 

Lethal25

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Personally I'm not mad keen on high priced wingers. There's a young kid at Manly who plays fullback Josh Schuster and will be blocked in his path to first grade by Turbo. He was the SG Ball player of the year in 2019 and worth rolling the dice on. I know we have our own juniors but this kid barring injury is one out of the box
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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Personally I'm not mad keen on high priced wingers. There's a young kid at Manly who plays fullback Josh Schuster and will be blocked in his path to first grade by Turbo. He was the SG Ball player of the year in 2019 and worth rolling the dice on. I know we have our own juniors but this kid barring injury is one out of the box
Wing is a position of real weakness for us. If we have an injury this weekend for example it will back to the bad old days of Lafai/Aitken with Lomax on the wing.
 

possm

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We have the following fullback prospects:
Dufty - I believe his best position would be at 6.
Ramsey - He looks to be our long term fullback
Schiller - Could play anywhere in the back 5
Sailor - Will go to Brisbane
Lomax - Should satay at right centre


For me, we have quite a few good outside backs coming through. Sign the Morris Brothers and let these players push for NRL selection. B morris at 2 and J Morris at 4 could solve our left side issues. Saab at 5 and Lomax at 3 are well matched on the right.. Ramsey and B Morris to switch during a game as required.
 

blue bags

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Former Wallabies star Israel Folau could return to the NRL as early as this year with at least one club in Australia’s premier rugby league competition reportedly set to make an inquiry about the cross-code star’s services.

According to a report from the Sydney Morning Herald, an unnamed club is preparing to approach Folau with a deal that would see him return to Australian rugby league for the first time since 2010.

The 31-year-old had his multi-million dollar contract with Rugby Australia torn up last year after he made posts on social media in what the organisation denounced as homophobic.

After receiving an undisclosed payout from RA following a lengthy legal battle which concluded in December, Folau switched back to rugby league by signing with France-based Super League club, the Catalan Dragons.

The UK league competition is currently suspended, however, with the coronavirus outbreak bringing the tournament to a halt after seven rounds of action.

The NRL is in a similar situation after their competition was postponed after just two rounds, despite resistance from the league’s officials.

An optimistic return date of May 28 has subsequently been set by NRL bosses, potentially with a shortened 13-week competition.

That would allow clubs one month to approach Folau to gauge an interest in returning to Australian rugby league before the competition’s transfer deadline of June 30.

The 73-test Wallaby made his first foray into professional sport when he made his NRL debut as a 17-year-old with the Melbourne Storm in 2007, before going on to join the Brisbane Broncos two years later.

Whether or not he would be welcomed back into the NRL is another question, though, with Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’Landys among those to publicly condemn Folau’s homophobic comments last year.

“The comments of Israel are not inclusive,” V’landys said. “Israel has to understand he is a role model … he has a duty. When I was at school and kids used to get bashed up because they were different, I used to go and defend them. I have no tolerance for people who put other people’s lives into violence or whatever.”



However, the SMH claims that there is growing support for a Folau return within NRL clubs, with 40 percent of club chairs and chief executives saying they would welcome the eight-test Kangaroo back into the competition under strict conditions in a poll undertaken by the newspaper prior to the season.

The former Queensland State of Origin star isn’t the only high-profile cross-code prospect being eyed up by the NRL.

The SMH also reports that former 70-test Wallabies first-five Quade Cooper would be willing to discuss a short-term deal with an NRL club if given the blessing by his current rugby union team, the Kintetsu Liners.

Cooper has been playing in Japan’s second-tier Top Challenge League alongside long-time teammate and halves partner Will Genia following a season-long stint with the Melbourne Rebels last season.

The 32-year-old has returned to Brisbane in recent times, though, and has been training alongside Broncos forward Tevita Pangai Jr at the club’s facilities in Red Hill.



Cooper has previously spoken of his desire to play in the NRL, and attracted interest from the Melbourne Storm and Parramatta Eels in the early stages of his career.

The 2011 Super Rugby winner reignited talk of a possible code switch last December when he appeared on The Ice Project podcast, hosted by former New Zealand and Cook Islands rugby league representative Isaac John.

“I wouldn’t mind playing NRL either, just for one season or even just come and do some training with the lads to see what it is like,” Cooper said at the time. “If it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen. I am happy with what I have been able to achieve, but if the opportunity arose I would love to do it.”

The SMH suggested Cooper could be used at either five-eighth or fullback by the Broncos, depending on how they want to utilise star playmaker Anthony Milford.



All Blacks star Ardie Savea also used John’s podcast to express his interest in moving to rugby league earlier this year.

“Strategically I would want to go to a team that was dominating, like the Storm or Roosters,” Savea said in February. “One hundred percent I want to play rugby league, I think they do a lot more in terms of off the field stuff … and also, just a new challenge. I want to test myself.

“Learning a whole new game and seeing if I can dominate, or play the way I play in union, that excites me. Seeing guys like Sonny [Bill Williams] do it kind of plays on my mind a bit.”

The Hurricanes loose forward’s deal with New Zealand Rugby expires at the end of 2021, but the SMH reports that Savea could use the COVID-19 outbreak as an opportunity to try out rugby league in a short-term capacity, with huge doubts surrounding the feasibility of both Super Rugby and international fixtures this year.



The newspaper also indicated that Savea could be joined by former All Blacks teammate Williams, who switched back to rugby league for the third time in his decorated career late last year after signing a two-season, $10 million deal with Super League newcomers, the Toronto Wolfpack.

Sandwiched between two World Cup-winning campaigns with the All Blacks, the 34-year-old won NRL premierships with the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs and Sydney Roosters in 2004 and 2013, respectively.

Williams, Savea, Cooper and Folau were among a raft of names from both union and league tossed up as potential targets for NRL clubs by the SMH.

Other individuals named by the Australian media outlet includes Wallabies utility back Kurtley Beale, former England and British and Irish Lions midfielder Ben Te’o and cross-code Waratahs star Karmichael Hunt.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/isra...a-among-top-names-eyed-up-by-nrl-clubs-report
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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We have the following fullback prospects:
Dufty - I believe his best position would be at 6.
Ramsey - He looks to be our long term fullback
Schiller - Could play anywhere in the back 5
Sailor - Will go to Brisbane
Lomax - Should satay at right centre


For me, we have quite a few good outside backs coming through. Sign the Morris Brothers and let these players push for NRL selection. B morris at 2 and J Morris at 4 could solve our left side issues. Saab at 5 and Lomax at 3 are well matched on the right.. Ramsey and B Morris to switch during a game as required.
I would think the Morris boys will resign with the Rorters.
 

blue bags

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With both Southern Hemisphere rugby codes in a tailspin engulfed in a global crisis, there is one untested solution that would provide a significant payday once action is able to resume.
The idea of an All Blacks/Kangaroos cross-code hybrid test has been floated in the past, but has never got off the ground. Some estimates in 2017 suggested the Test would fetch $50 million.

With both calendars jam-packed, it was a stretch to get both parties to work together to get it scheduled.
However, as Warren Gatland recently suggested, now is a chance to re-look at things. Everything that was off the table before could now potentially be back on it.

At the beginning of the sport, rugby league split off as a faction from rugby union over a financial dispute.

Now with both codes in Australasia needing cash, could money be the thing that brings them back together?

Controversy sells. Hostility sells. Emotion sells. There are few backstories filled with more hostility and division as the two rugby codes going back over 100 years.

The players from the rugby clubs in the North of England wanted to be paid, and that was against the RFU rules. The clubs rebelled and created an all-new inclusive code in rugby league.

Rugby league was made for every man and quickly spread across the globe in defiance of rugby union administrators, who predicted with regularity it would die.

Union players who defected to the code were banned for life from returning.

The two codes have gone in separate directions for more than 100 years, ignoring each other, divided as ever. But union eventually followed the path that created league in the first place, turning professional and becoming a commercial venture.

There exists a subset of fans that cross over, but that is the minority.

This is exactly why it would provide the theatre to draw in fans from both sides, with divided loyalties already set. Bringing two sets of mutually exclusive fans together. A boxing promoter couldn’t dream of a better situation to hype up.

99% of the players are unlikely to have to ever play alongside their opponents, allowing them to be free to express themselves without retribution, with administrators on either side happy to lob grenades on the other code.

Part of the growing malaise in professional rugby is its sterilized nature with few prepared to sell interest in the game with unmeasured honesty or bold arrogance.

Unfortunately, that vanilla approach doesn’t create interest. Perhaps only Eddie Jones knows this in the modern game.

This kind of clash would allow for a return to unbridled tribalism, backed by a larger story than either code.

Even pre-crisis, both isolated codes were, and are, under attack from youth indifference, globalization of far more powerful US sports, and the rise of e-sports and gaming.

Rugby league and rugby union aren’t competing solely with each other, rather the wider entertainment market, whether they realise that or not.

They should be finding ways to unite and collaborate to strengthen each other as the existential threats grow.

Leveraging each other through a hybrid test would work to grow each other’s audience and provide a cash injection. League fans may appreciate the power of Ardie Savea and the skills of Beauden Barrett, leading them to watch more union, and vice versa.

The All Blacks struggle to find consistent Trans-Tasman competition from the Wallabies after 15 years of Bledisloe domination.

The rivalry only exists in memory and historic relevance as the contest has become the most lopsided of any in World Rugby.

For Australian rugby league fans, the domestic state fixture State of Origin is widely held as the pinnacle of their game, illustrating how little regard international rugby league holds.

Pitting the All Blacks versus the Kangaroos would put two of the best rugby sides on this side of the world against each other.

The worst-case scenario is a one-off payday that flops but puts cash in the bank to help recoup the losses from this season.

The best-case scenario is uncovering an annual series that spins top dollar for years and becomes the premier event of Australasian sport.

Is that not worth a try?

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/time...cks-kangaroos-hybrid-test-once-sport-returns/
 

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