Loko Pasifiki Tonga

[Not Myself]

Now, they’re saying in the SMH that he might be picked this weekend. Of course, he should be picked and his manager has every right to blow up. But picking him hours after those e-mails were released would be the final nail. I respect Flanagan’s right to pick the team, as I have the right to call his selections lunacy. If this is true, he looks like a lunatic lacking in conviction.

 

[SEAT 1A]

There was talk of what was required of him after he left out of the squad for Las Vegas.

That has progressed to requesting a release. As he smashed it last week, it seems that done exactly what was asked of him.

I don't think he's asking to start and there's been no evidence with the players picked on the bench that are screaming to be picked ahead of him.

 

[DoctorDoom]

The sad part is, more teams so talent would be spread around. Losing more talented players will only hurt us.

At some point we need to give the youth a run.

 

[Flinstone]

Now, they’re saying in the SMH that he might be picked this weekend. Of course, he should be picked and his manager has every right to blow up. But picking him hours after those e-mails were released would be the final nail. I respect Flanagan’s right to pick the team, as I have the right to call his selections lunacy. If this is true, he looks like a lunatic lacking in conviction.

Probably just media making a story of it because he's on the extended squad, but hope he gets a run

 

[twinkletoes]

Now, they’re saying in the SMH that he might be picked this weekend. Of course, he should be picked and his manager has every right to blow up. But picking him hours after those e-mails were released would be the final nail. I respect Flanagan’s right to pick the team, as I have the right to call his selections lunacy. If this is true, he looks like a lunatic lacking in conviction.

Whole episode is an absolute shambles...Flanaghan comes out looking as weak as piss for backflipping. The kid should have been given a crack instead of Lawrie and Kerr...but it know appears the club has been blackmailed into backflippng. I saw Flanaghan quoted as saying I have a plan for him...maybe he should have explained that to the kid and his management because the manager has stated no one has spoken to LPT to give him any incentive...who do you believe. The upshot is that LPT will eventually leave, either in a few ewwks, months or at the end of season as the damage has been done...another junior lost due to a lack of pathways.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Not saying this is necessarily a "like for like" comparison but it can give you an idea. In 2016, Peter O'Sullivan, who was the Roosters recruitment manager at the time, got this kid playing under 20s for the Broncos to sign with the Roosters for 2017. At the time he'd played for the Qld under 20s team but wasn't considered a big name.

In 2017, turing 21 that year he made his first grade debut in Round 12 that year. He only played a few first grade games and played in the NSW Cup Grand Final for Wyong against Newtown.

2018, he played 8 games in first grade, many off the bench. He wasn't in the GF squad.

2019, he played in 14 games in first grade, again moistly off the bench. He again didn't make the first grade squad.

2020, he became a regular first grader playing 19 games that year. He also became a Qld Origin player that year. Since then, he's been a regular first grader and Qld Origin player.

The player? None other than Lindsay Collins.

Now O'Sullivan identified him, but selection and his development? That was on the coaching staff.

Same applies in this case with LPT. He may have the raw talent, but the Dragons coaching staff need to help him develop that.

 

[I'm Hornby]

Now, they’re saying in the SMH that he might be picked this weekend. Of course, he should be picked and his manager has every right to blow up. But picking him hours after those e-mails were released would be the final nail. I respect Flanagan’s right to pick the team, as I have the right to call his selections lunacy. If this is true, he looks like a lunatic lacking in conviction.

Yep, the whole point is that it shouldn't take a young kid requesting an early release to finally get a go.

 

[Flinstone]

Not saying this is necessarily a "like for like" comparison but it can give you an idea. In 2016, Peter O'Sullivan, who was the Roosters recruitment manager at the time, got this kid playing under 20s for the Broncos to sign with the Roosters for 2017. At the time he'd played for the Qld under 20s team but wasn't considered a big name.

In 2017, turing 21 that year he made his first grade debut in Round 12 that year. He only played a few first grade games and played in the NSW Cup Grand Final for Wyong against Newtown.

2018, he played 8 games in first grade, many off the bench. He wasn't in the GF squad.

2019, he played in 14 games in first grade, again moistly off the bench. He again didn't make the first grade squad.

2020, he became a regular first grader playing 19 games that year. He also became a Qld Origin player that year. Since then, he's been a regular first grader and Qld Origin player.

The player? None other than Lindsay Collins.

Now O'Sullivan identified him, but selection and his development? That was on the coaching staff.

Same applies in this case with LPT. He may have the raw talent, but the Dragons coaching staff need to help him develop that.

It looks like unfortunately LPT doesn't have that patience and wants NRL game time sooner

 

[Mojo]

That's probably why there not rushing him and want to give him more time, and Loko obviously can't wait and thinks he's ready now.
But why not give him some minutes off the bench this year.

So send him on and see if he gets ‘buckled’ then. Don’t just sit him down in the dark and wait for him to ‘grow into his body’ (or whatever other platitude they choose to use on this occassion.

If he gets ‘buckled’ then talk to him about it. Shit almighty, it’s not that difficult is it?

He has to sit and watch other ‘seasoned’ forwards blobbing around like drunk muppets week after week.

FFS - we’re supposed to be professionals at developing these young guns - not destroying them!

 

[JohnnoMcJohnno]

Same applies in this case with LPT. He may have the raw talent, but the Dragons coaching staff need to help him develop that.

But it's the development that seems to be the issue and has been for some time. Under Hook, players like George Burgess and Jack Gosiewski said they never got any feedback from the coach as to what they should work on. Now the same complaints have been made of Flanno by Ilias and LPT. It's as though the coach puts a wall around the first grade squad and takes no notice of any players outside that.

 

[Dragon 4life]

I can’t understand not giving him a run ahead of Lawrie when they have already told Lawrie he’s not in there future plans .We’re not making finals so why not blood a few young blokes and see where there up to in terms of development, just holding them back while watching the first grade get lapped each week is just so typical of our club

 

[Pleasehelpstillchoking]

Now, they’re saying in the SMH that he might be picked this weekend. Of course, he should be picked and his manager has every right to blow up. But picking him hours after those e-mails were released would be the final nail. I respect Flanagan’s right to pick the team, as I have the right to call his selections lunacy. If this is true, he looks like a lunatic lacking in conviction.

He was always going to be picked this week, as was Kerr. They both killed in cup last week. I've said it before on this forum, the issue with Loko is he's difficult to coach because of his own high opinion of himself. Like a lot of young people these days, hard to teach because they already know it all.

 

[Slippery Morris]

The SMH has reported before Loko's release that the Eels were looking for players. Next minute, LPT requests a release. Lomax all over again. They denied Lomax to join the Storm, I would hope Saints do the same. If Saints do let him go only for a replacement halfback which is what they need.

 

[JohnnoMcJohnno]

The SMH has reported before Loko's release that the Eels were looking for players. Next minute, LPT requests a release. Lomax all over again. They denied Lomax to join the Storm, I would hope Saints do the same. If Saints do let him go only for a replacement halfback which is what they need.

Parra's backup halfback is Ronald Volkman. Do we really want to go there again?

 

[Lindsay Moss]

So send him on and see if he gets ‘buckled’ then. Don’t just sit him down in the dark and wait for him to ‘grow into his body’ (or whatever other platitude they choose to use on this occassion.

If he gets ‘buckled’ then talk to him about it. Shit almighty, it’s not that difficult is it?

He has v to sit and watch other ‘seasoned’ forwards blobbing around like drunk muppets week after week.

FFS - we’re supposed to be professionals at developing these young guns - not destroying them!

Didn't he play 10 games of the bench last year if so what's happened.

 

[Not Myself]

He was always going to be picked this week, as was Kerr. They both killed in cup last week. I've said it before on this forum, the issue with Loko is he's difficult to coach because of his own high opinion of himself. Like a lot of young people these days, hard to teach because they already know it all.

They used to say that about us, too.

 

[Not Myself]

“They (young people) think they know everything and are sure about it.”
Aristotle

 

[coastiedragon]

It's not that hard pick the players playing better than 1st grade. Dickheads who say cant pick him dont throw him to the wolf's they can't play against men, need an upper cut there playing against men in cup you wankers we pick reed loko who gives a shit if they dont win we haven't won since august

 

[coastiedragon]

“They (young people) think they know everything and are sure about it.”
Aristotle

There young and keen show confidence better than gutho cook val kerr who show age numb nuts

 

[KogarahWarrior]

It looks like unfortunately LPT doesn't have that patience and wants NRL game time sooner

Yeah but look who LPT is getting overlooked for, compared to who Collins was being overlooked for.