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Loko....

Far Canal

Juniors
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Frankly he was pretty piss poor.

Lts not forget he dropped the ball that lead to the Dogs taking the lead after the break 9even though Ryan stripped it) - lack of ball control there.

He looks too big and clinky and does not have good latera speed (same as Idris) - result is people can run around him.

Did not see him do anything special last ngiht - that ankle tackle on Idris is not special - that is what you are taught to do.

Made no breaks but then again the whole Parra backline (save hayne) is f**ked.
 

Tyler Durden

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6 bulldogs tries...all of them through our left side.

but loko would have learnt more on friday night than he would have in an entire season trampling over weak kids in the toyota cup.
 

True EEL

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Maybe because it's just the kid's second appearance in firsts and there are others in the team who should be supporting him and showing him the way, who can't even do their own job properly, who deserve the real criticism, you fool.

that's right....call me a fool....because i can see how that was warranted...

maybe its because you decided to take one comment of mine totally out of context from the overall discussion and debate and tried to make a hero out of yourself by having a shot at me, well done champ you must be so proud :sarcasm:
 

True EEL

Bench
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jesus after watching some replays...Loko and Morts were HORRIBLE in defence down our left side last night, they need Ben Smith out there with them
 

Prop Forward

Juniors
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jesus after watching some replays...Loko and Morts were HORRIBLE in defence down our left side last night, they need Ben Smith out there with them

Ben Smith has not been the same since his injury. I don't think he is up to first grade any more.
 

Suitman

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Ben Smith has been awful this year.
People are talking about a cleanout.
Well, I'd start with him and Reddy.
Both average footballers at best.

Suity
 

Bazal

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How can anyone deny the kid had a shocker? They scored all 6 tries down his side of the field

Seems to me he's the newest Anointed One, and thus many believe him to beyond criticism. See Jarryd Hayne for further reference.
 

Bazal

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Actually, watching the highlights linked by Twizz in the other (headbutt) thread...jesus he was poor in defence!

Missed a simple tackle on the first try
Missed an even easier on on Idris in the second
Screamed infield unnecessarily and to no effect on the third
Was absolutely nowhere on the fourth
Backed away and as a result watched Barba waltz by on the fifth

This is not a shot at the kid, for those who seem to be all up in arms about their Chosen One being criticised, because he is clearly very talented. But he was in SG Ball last year. He is not ready for First Grade football, and that's shown in his reading and tackling in defence.
 

Suitman

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Actually, watching the highlights linked by Twizz in the other (headbutt) thread...jesus he was poor in defence!

Missed a simple tackle on the first try
Missed an even easier on on Idris in the second
Screamed infield unnecessarily and to no effect on the third
Was absolutely nowhere on the fourth
Backed away and as a result watched Barba waltz by on the fifth

This is not a shot at the kid, for those who seem to be all up in arms about their Chosen One being criticised, because he is clearly very talented. But he was in SG Ball last year. He is not ready for First Grade football, and that's shown in his reading and tackling in defence.

Maybe that's our problem. We protect our kids so much, that they get the sh*ts and go elsewhere.
First Grade is a fast learning curve. I'd persist with him and prepare him by next year. He has the talent.

Suity
 

Bazal

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Maybe that's our problem. We protect our kids so much, that they get the sh*ts and go elsewhere.
First Grade is a fast learning curve. I'd persist with him and prepare him by next year. He has the talent.

Suity

That is definitely the case with some players, no doubt. But really...Loko is 17/18 is he not? He's had a taste, let him work towards permanency for Wenty with Ryan Morgan. They've both got a lot to learn and honestly, a game like last nights can shatter a young player...let alone the season we look set for!
 

Suitman

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That is definitely the case with some players, no doubt. But really...Loko is 17/18 is he not? He's had a taste, let him work towards permanency for Wenty with Ryan Morgan. They've both got a lot to learn and honestly, a game like last nights can shatter a young player...let alone the season we look set for!

And a game like last week's where he could hold his head high, could be a career builder.
Give the kid a break.

Suity
 

Bazal

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He was pretty poor in defence last week too, tbh....It's hard enough as it is for kids coming through, so few of them make it. Why heap on the extra pressure of throwing him in the deep end with this rabble?
 

Suitman

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He was pretty poor in defence last week too, tbh....It's hard enough as it is for kids coming through, so few of them make it. Why heap on the extra pressure of throwing him in the deep end with this rabble?

Maybe because they think he is good enough?

Suity
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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Just because he's talented doesn't mean he should be in 1st grade when he clearly isn't ready, look the kids had a taste of 1st grade, he should be allowed to go away and work on the areas of his game that aren't up to scratch yet. If he wants to play 1st grade again he had to earn his selection
 

Bigfella

Coach
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Loko and Burt as a defensive combination is terrifying.

The dogs are reaping the rewards now for investing in barbara who was possibly the weakest defender i've ever seen in first grade for the first 2 seasons he played
 

ParraSteve

Juniors
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and who should replace him?

Whatirua who's won 2 premierships, well his defence was just as bad as loko's in his only game for the eels, Walker and Atkins are wingers not centres. Ben Smith shouldnt be in first grade on current form.

Its giong to be tough for the kid, just look at the likes of Idris, Barba they all had a hard time when they first came in.
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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Maybe because it's just the kid's second appearance in firsts and there are others in the team who should be supporting him and showing him the way, who can't even do their own job properly, who deserve the real criticism, you fool.

This

Why did SK not put Smith or Reddy with Loko?

And why was Smith on the bench until the 67th Minute?
 

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