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Louis fires parting shot at Cleary

Fast Eddie

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The fact I had signed elsewhere had something to do with my limited game time ––––––––––
WARRIORS enforcer Louis Anderson has fired a broadside at coach Ivan Cleary saying he was locked out of selection the day he signed for Warrington.
Anderson made 23 first-grade appearances for the Warriors last year but only 10 this season.
And the second-rower says his decision in January to join Super League club Warrington for 2008 meant he wasn't competing on a level playing field for selection this year.
"To be honest, I questioned whether the fact I had signed elsewhere had something to do with my limited game time," Anderson told Sunday News.
"I think it's a question people need to ask the coach.
"It's not for me to choose the team but in some cases I thought I would be picked to play but I wasn't.
"I do believe that because I had signed somewhere else the Warriors thought there was no point in really playing me.
"I don't know and I can't really say but I do think that did have a bit of persuasion on who the coach picked each week."
Anderson is now desperate to make the most of his naming in the Kiwis' training squad for the one-off test against Australia on October 14.
"It's weird that I got picked for the Kiwis train-on squad but couldn't even make the NRL team," said Anderson.
"It will be good for me to finish on a high note (in New Zealand) if I make it into the Kiwis and hopefully that happens.
"This year, my NRL season was pretty disappointing so to get selected for the Kiwis would be a top way to finish my time in New Zealand."
Kiwis coach Gary Kemble believes the second-rower has what it takes to succeed at international level.
"We believe he's a very good player and he's performed extremely well in the test matches he's played," Kemble told Sunday News.
"He's played a few tests now and he has performed very well in those test matches even when he's been out of position.
"We believe he's a very good player and he is a very good chance of making the squad."
Kemble's comments are a huge boost to Anderson.
"I don't know what Ivan thought about me and why I wasn't picked and I still question that. I thought, in some cases, the guys playing in my position didn't play as well as they could have and I should probably have got a shot the following week.
"I never got a chance but when I hear stuff like that from Gary Kemble, it gives me confidence to keep going."
Do you think the Warriors handled Louis Anderson's final days at the club shoddily?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaynews/4211625a19773.html

Kind of agree with him. There was stages during the season where I thought he was deserving of a spot in the side. He was playing quite well during the latter half of the season.
 

Skinner

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Fast Eddie said:
The fact I had signed elsewhere had something to do with my limited game time ––––––––––
WARRIORS enforcer Louis Anderson has fired a broadside at coach Ivan Cleary saying he was locked out of selection the day he signed for Warrington.
Anderson made 23 first-grade appearances for the Warriors last year but only 10 this season.
And the second-rower says his decision in January to join Super League club Warrington for 2008 meant he wasn't competing on a level playing field for selection this year.
"To be honest, I questioned whether the fact I had signed elsewhere had something to do with my limited game time," Anderson told Sunday News.
"I think it's a question people need to ask the coach.
"It's not for me to choose the team but in some cases I thought I would be picked to play but I wasn't.
"I do believe that because I had signed somewhere else the Warriors thought there was no point in really playing me.
"I don't know and I can't really say but I do think that did have a bit of persuasion on who the coach picked each week."
Anderson is now desperate to make the most of his naming in the Kiwis' training squad for the one-off test against Australia on October 14.
"It's weird that I got picked for the Kiwis train-on squad but couldn't even make the NRL team," said Anderson.
"It will be good for me to finish on a high note (in New Zealand) if I make it into the Kiwis and hopefully that happens.
"This year, my NRL season was pretty disappointing so to get selected for the Kiwis would be a top way to finish my time in New Zealand."
Kiwis coach Gary Kemble believes the second-rower has what it takes to succeed at international level.
"We believe he's a very good player and he's performed extremely well in the test matches he's played," Kemble told Sunday News.
"He's played a few tests now and he has performed very well in those test matches even when he's been out of position.
"We believe he's a very good player and he is a very good chance of making the squad."
Kemble's comments are a huge boost to Anderson.
"I don't know what Ivan thought about me and why I wasn't picked and I still question that. I thought, in some cases, the guys playing in my position didn't play as well as they could have and I should probably have got a shot the following week.
"I never got a chance but when I hear stuff like that from Gary Kemble, it gives me confidence to keep going."
Do you think the Warriors handled Louis Anderson's final days at the club shoddily?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaynews/4211625a19773.html

Kind of agree with him. There was stages during the season where I thought he was deserving of a spot in the side. He was playing quite well during the latter half of the season.

Louis mate.....I'd say 50% of it was Uncle Ive, the other 50% was your own
dickheadedness with your (lack of) discipline :cool:
 

Iafeta

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The ill discipline was costly at several times. He needs to accept personal responsibility on this, but then again, I only saw 10 games of him this season so NZ Warrior/North Queensland Cowboy/Geek with multiple log ins and an ownership trainwreck please accept my qualification on his comment due to the lack of game time I saw from him, I humbly apologise and bow down to you of course.
 

Sam_the_man

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I didn't think his discipline was that bad this season, i think he was the victim of his reputation from previous seasons. I mean that 10 in the bin that cost us the match against the Tigers at Mt S was bullsh*t. Farah started throwing punches and got the penalty, Louie grabbed someone and got penalized and blamed by Simpkins for the fight. Minutes later he is the third tackler into a tackle that is still going on and moving and Simpkins calls held as Louie makes contact as third man in and gets binned for a flop. Absolute crap reffing and Louie has to wear the lose and blame for it.

I'm not Andersons biggest fan because of average hands and poor discipline in previous seasons but i don't think the bloke got a fair crack this season.
 

Iafeta

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Aside from those STM, there were a number of killer penalties especially fourth and fifth tackle where he'd roll around in the ruck, push and shove to the point where he'd forget to stand square... at times you wondered where he was really at.

When he was good, he was great, he was good for 160 metres and 25 tackles and that's the best impact we have in the backrow. I just wonder whether he developed as consistently well as we people would have hoped given his pedigree as Junior Kiwis captain and given how young he was when he came into first grade and how well he took those opportunities. I think the change of scene will be good for Louis. Also, with his comments one may have to take into consideration how the club ill treated his brother.
 

Sam_the_man

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Yes the treatment of both brothers is questionable really.

I can't think that those points you isolated shouldn't have been taken care of by the coaching staff or by being given a mentor at a younger age.
 

Skinner

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Iafeta said:
Also, with his comments one may have to take into consideration how the club ill treated his brother.

Now, there is an Anderson who was mistreated :(
 
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Louis can only blame himself for being in reserve grade. Hes a firebrand and thats good but their is a time and place for it, and sadly he did it at the wrong times. During the 2nd half of the season he should of been their instead of Swann
 

mean

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Maybe his old man is another one of these fathers that tries to relive his inabilities through his sons and stuck his nose in where it shouldn't, like many that we know that are out there.
 

Skinner

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mean said:
Maybe his old man is another one of these fathers that tries to relive his inabilities through his sons and stuck his nose in where it shouldn't, like many that we know that are out there.

You probably know Waz as a player mate.......you can see where young Louis gets
it from. Don't get me wrong, off the paddock, Anderson senior is a decent bloke, but
when he's got the boots on.......blimey :crazy:
 

Manu Vatuvei

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Louis is obviously correct

He had maybe 2 bad games, which was very convenient for Cleary, but I'm amazed the fans were so easily sucked in. Louis is clearly a starting NRL player and a seasoned international to boot, at age 22. Logan Swann isn't half the player.
 

mean_maori_mean

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Thierry Henry said:
Louis is obviously correct

He had maybe 2 bad games, which was very convenient for Cleary, but I'm amazed the fans were so easily sucked in. Louis is clearly a starting NRL player and a seasoned international to boot, at age 22. Logan Swann isn't half the player.

yea have to agree.

Realistically he should of got much more game time but not just ahead of swann but a number of players.
Lauaki showed moments of sh*tyness through the season.
Wai got picked when was showing no good form in PL - though he came good end of season.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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Louis made his FG debut in 2004 aged 18. Since then he has basically played every NRL AND international game going, usually in the starting line-up. All of a sudden this season he can't make first grade, and he's still so young. On the other hand, Lauaki couldn't get dropped if he tried, despite being much more likely than Louis to have a shocker. Logan Swann, well...nuff said imo. No doubt there was something else going on.
 

NZ Warrior

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Iafeta said:
The ill discipline was costly at several times. He needs to accept personal responsibility on this, but then again, I only saw 10 games of him this season so NZ Warrior/North Queensland Cowboy/Geek with multiple log ins and an ownership trainwreck please accept my qualification on his comment due to the lack of game time I saw from him, I humbly apologise and bow down to you of course.

Oh don't be like that. I was quite looking forward to your complete and thorough analysis of how Louis has played for the Lions this season from that one game you saw.

So I am a fat, white, racist geek now, am I??? You guys are starting to give me a personality complex. I'm gonna get off the computer, go for a jog, get a tan and make friends with some black people, so I can feel better about myself.
 

Iafeta

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NZ Warrior said:
Oh don't be like that. I was quite looking forward to your complete and thorough analysis of how Louis has played for the Lions this season from that one game you saw.

So I am a fat, white, racist geek now, am I??? You guys are starting to give me a personality complex. I'm gonna get off the computer, go for a jog, get a tan and make friends with some black people, so I can feel better about myself.

A jog? A tan?

With all your logins, you'd need to spend the next three summers in the solarium eating nothing but hash. You've got to let off the anger mate, I thought your time in the Cowboys colours would have taught you how when you visited Sione and Jason Smith... Smithy to show you the art of smoking your throat away and Sione blowing your career away.

How about you create a login for Louis Anderson's dad, that'd be hella funny :roll:
 

NZ Warrior

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I think my next log in will be Anti Iafeta.

Yeah, I'll go around agreeing with people, not being a jerk and if I have only watched a team play one game, I'll make little to no comment on that subject.
 

ozbash

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louie suffers from anger but doesnt know how to use it.

lauaki has a similar disease..
 
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Old feet for hands ay. I simply think he didnt deserve to be there. As a second rower/lock, he had guys like Wiki, Luck, Swann and Luaki ahead of him, all of which had been light years ahead of his form this season. As far as Im concerned, he played himself out of contention.

Id be more inclined to say Lance Hohaia was the one guy who Ive wont pick...but something tells me, and its a pretty conclusive something, that old Mr. Alcohol has something to do with that.
 

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