Luciano Leilua

[dragon-83]

Luc got injured in ISP yesterday

 

[ouryears]

Luc got injured in ISP yesterday

How badly, is it a few weeks do you think?

 

[watatank]

Host was injured too recently??

He was but I guess I just think that the coach just has an idea of what he wants and is going to stick to it regardless of form.

 

[Gareth67]

Luciano is a works in progress. Takes time. With Origin on the way it appears certain that we will be losing players to the squad. I would not be panicking too much. He will be needed at some stage so game time at the right time plus time in ISP seems to be his go. Perseverance is what is required . Sele ,Host and Laurie will make it .
Lancelot

SIR LANCELOT , a agree with you to a point - he is indeed a work in progress - however in such a close , very close competition as we have in 2018 , no team can afford the luxury of giving latitude of any type to their opponents.

All 17 players chosen for the top grade must have the ability to do the job at hand , no team can carry an inexperienced player as the risk is too great . You only need to look at that ' lazy ' passing attempt on Friday nights game .

All the hard work by the Dragons to keep the rabbits at bay was nearly undone and also the 2 competition points that went with it . In saying that I still believe that Luciano has tremendous potential, but right now he is a bit of a liability in these extremely tight matches .

 

[ouryears]

SIR LANCELOT , a agree with you to a point - he is indeed a work in progress - however in such a close , very close competition as we have in 2018 , no team can afford the luxury of giving latitude of any type to their opponents.

All 17 players chosen for the top grade must have the ability to do the job at hand , no team can carry an inexperienced player as the risk is too great . You only need to look at that ' lazy ' passing attempt on Friday nights game .

All the hard work by the Dragons to keep the rabbits at bay was nearly undone and also the 2 competition points that went with it . In saying that I still believe that Luciano has tremendous potential, but right now he is a bit of a liability in these extremely tight matches .

Spot on, Luc needs much more time in NSW ISP Cup to build on his existing skills and mental toughness, too high risk in first grade

 

[2010]

He has had many chances to impress the coach and cementing a permanent place on the bench.
He is going to be a player that had the skills in the lower grades but was never going to be a first grade option.

 

[Dragon Revival]

Luciano is not up to NRL standard and does not appear to be carrying his weight as part of the team. He is a slow developer who lacks confidence and hopefully does not fall by the wayside.

 

[Dragonslayer]

LL is an interesting case.
Yes he has talent and normally that talent would transpire to a permant first grade spot. However, he's a big boy that needs game fitness rather than training fitness. 10 mins here and there (1 game didnt get on if i remember) doesnt equate to being on-song when required. IMO, this is what we saw on Friday night. A guy not match fit, struggling with the pace of the game, yet at the same time trying to impress.
He needs game time but thecquestion is where? ISP, whilst the standard is good its a big jump from there to 1st grade especially with the pace. Keep him on the bench in 1st grade equals what we saw and you cant fompare him with say Mann due to their body sizes and weight.
I understand McGregor leaving him on but it nearly backfired on us but again he needs the game time.
At this stage, and given he picked up an injury yesterday a stint in ISPcwouldn't go astray.
Host should be slotted in in his place but will he suffer the same fate at LL?

 

[dragonssamy61]

Spot on, Luc needs much more time in NSW ISP Cup to build on his existing skills and mental toughness, too high risk in first grade

Agree.
He needs to toughen up it all in his head.

 

[WardyRedV]

LL is an interesting case.
Yes he has talent and normally that talent would transpire to a permant first grade spot. However, he's a big boy that needs game fitness rather than training fitness. 10 mins here and there (1 game didnt get on if i remember) doesnt equate to being on-song when required. IMO, this is what we saw on Friday night. A guy not match fit, struggling with the pace of the game, yet at the same time trying to impress.
He needs game time but thecquestion is where? ISP, whilst the standard is good its a big jump from there to 1st grade especially with the pace. Keep him on the bench in 1st grade equals what we saw and you cant fompare him with say Mann due to their body sizes and weight.
I understand McGregor leaving him on but it nearly backfired on us but again he needs the game time.
At this stage, and given he picked up an injury yesterday a stint in ISPcwouldn't go astray.
Host should be slotted in in his place but will he suffer the same fate at LL?

He has been backing up with ISP most weeks hasn’t he? Hence the injury yesterday.

 

[TomRedVRiver]

Am I the only one who thinks Sele could be a quality edge forward?

For now, Host will do to replace Leilua.. Definitely think Luch needs a couple of rounds in ISP.
But I feel like if Sele could make the transition to the edge, he would have a lot of impact off the bench.

 

[dragonssamy61]

Am I the only one who thinks Sele could be a quality edge forward?

For now, Host will do to replace Leilua.. Definitely think Luch needs a couple of rounds in ISP.
But I feel like if Sele could make the transition to the edge, he would have a lot of impact off the bench.

Tom I think he is better as middle forward.
He would be ok as a edge.
But host is a better choice also young ford is going great

 

[Como Connection]

Am I the only one who thinks Sele could be a quality edge forward?

For now, Host will do to replace Leilua.. Definitely think Luch needs a couple of rounds in ISP.
But I feel like if Sele could make the transition to the edge, he would have a lot of impact off the bench.

Agree, many skills and could do a real good job.
CC

 

[BennyV]

Am I the only one who thinks Sele could be a quality edge forward?

For now, Host will do to replace Leilua.. Definitely think Luch needs a couple of rounds in ISP.
But I feel like if Sele could make the transition to the edge, he would have a lot of impact off the bench.

He probably could. But IMO his future lies in the middle, specifically at 13. I worry that having JDB in the team means that he wont realise that future here. But we'll see.

As a long-term player, Host and Ford (from what I hear) are better edge options. More natural players there.

 

[O'Sullivan]

Luc looked like a boy amongst men playing the Rabbits, a very BIG boy I'd admit, but he looked nervous, tentative and intimidated. The tackle he fell off was poor for a man of his size and his attempted pass was careless, albeit not the only one in the game, but in the last five minutes of the game, nooooo. He has potential but seems to lack belief. Friday will not help him. In a way, provided its not too serious, his injury may be a god send. Dropping him would have emphasised his failure so, if we believe he has a future that matches the money he is on and the interest shown by other clubs, I would have picked him on the bench again against the Sharks and would have had my heart in my mouth every time the Sharks ran at him.

 

[dragonssamy61]

Luc looked like a boy amongst men playing the Rabbits, a very BIG boy I'd admit, but he looked nervous, tentative and intimidated. The tackle he fell off was poor for a man of his size and his attempted pass was careless, albeit not the only one in the game, but in the last five minutes of the game, nooooo. He has potential but seems to lack belief. Friday will not help him. In a way, provided its not too serious, his injury may be a god send. Dropping him would have emphasised his failure so, if we believe he has a future that matches the money he is on and the interest shown by other clubs, I would have picked him on the bench again against the Sharks and would have had my heart in my mouth every time the Sharks ran at him.

O'sullivan
I understand your point and it has plenty of merit.
But there is a few guys expecially host and sele how are continually playing well and deserve there chance.
Luc will learn and if he is half the player that he sould be.
He will come back bigger and better.

 

[Uplifting]

I understand why some of you are saying Luc needs more time ISP, but remember he graduated top of the class from ISP last year. He has earned his shot at FG (consistently over the year).

The problem could be that he hasn’t been able to play himself into form off the bench because he needs longer spells. Put him on in the first half I say.

Sele should be playing FG in my opinion. And while I’m at it, Field should be on the bench with him when the opportunity arises. These guys are quality first graders IMO.

 

[Old Timer]

Sims, JDB, Graham, Vaughan, Frizzell, LAM all rock hard like a Michaelangelo sculpture.
Host and Sele at about 95% of the way to achieving that and will be there very soon..
Luc is like a kid in a large adolescents body which whilst big still suffers from jelly belly.
As I said before no hard edge to him and without that he isn't going anywhere fast.
Ball playing isn't enough on its own to warrant a bench spot.

 

[O'Sullivan]

Get your point too Dragonssarmy. Sele is and will be good. I would have him before Luc if it were up to me. He has great potential as an ongoing forward for us. I am less convinced about Host. His work rate is good but I'm not real sure about him as an impact forward. Hope I'm proved wrong but Luc might, just might develop into something special. I'd hate to see him do that for another side. As I said Host may become a world beater, but I doubt it. He will be a good solid first grader. In my opinion he will never be a match winner but admittedly, on Friday at least, Luc almost proved himself to be a match loser.

 

[mw10371]

Luc looked like a boy amongst men playing the Rabbits, a very BIG boy I'd admit, but he looked nervous, tentative and intimidated. The tackle he fell off was poor for a man of his size and his attempted pass was careless, albeit not the only one in the game, but in the last five minutes of the game, nooooo. He has potential but seems to lack belief. Friday will not help him. In a way, provided its not too serious, his injury may be a god send. Dropping him would have emphasised his failure so, if we believe he has a future that matches the money he is on and the interest shown by other clubs, I would have picked him on the bench again against the Sharks and would have had my heart in my mouth every time the Sharks ran at him.

100% agree......So very close to costing us that game. I'd feel a lot better with Host there instead.