Luke Brooks

[WA Tiger]

You know I think some people just have favourites and least favourites…and any argument to the contrary must be squashed…I don’t see changing my mind as being a weakness but obviously some do ….with the knowledge on this forum it fkn totally puzzles me how posters can say there’s a bigger liability than Brookes (whose the playmaker of the team) I mean some forwards maybe don’t run as hard as they could or whatever today’s argument was but at least they run….and they could run much more if Brookes could see what he should be seeing…Same with this ridiculous Reynolds is the worst signing line …I’m not wasting my time on too-ing and fro-ing with these

I think with Brooks he’s been here so long it’s hard to imagine WT having a half that can create try’s with a pass or grubber or even put a player through a gap …Some I think have a “we’ve had him for so long that that’s as good as it’s going to get so let’s admire him for what he can do” type thinking and worse
“ he seems like such a nice guy how could we rubbish him” ! oh yes and “he can tackle and run a bit” even though his running and passing is hit and hope. Seriously debilitating for the team and for me completely confusing if winning really is the goal..

From top to bottom at this club all the main culprits are getting off the hook ..You wouldn’t see it in any other team or any other sport anywhere in the history of sport..For me Its hard to describe how puzzling and difficult it is to stomach…as I say from a pool of more pure league knowledge than u can poke a stick at..

 

[Old Time Tiger]

Well I guess that now AD won’t be around for the 1st x months of next season, do we agree that its a given that the Hastings Brooks combination is the only option.

I have been one that has been on the ‘get rid of Brooks’ side of the debate but I would really like to see him move to playing outside Madden for the last 2 rounds.

Playing Mybe at 5/8 now is as bad as St George playing Corey Norman in 1st grade.

 

[Maxxn99]

Brooks is a great player, but I just do not see him being the game manager that we need him to be. We can point fingers and blame all we want but we realistically have two options:
1. Persist with Brooks as our Halfback
2. Move Brooks to 5/8 and develop a new halfback

Option 1 is a risk we persisted with and it looks like we aren't going to get anywhere with. Option 2 seems to make more sense but then we have to f**k around with a new halfback which takes a few years to really see the fruits of the labour.

One option I do see is going after a player like Burton from Panthers. He kicks goals and by all means looks like a solid, game managing halfback. I wouldn't complain seeing him as our 7 with Brooks running around as a 5/8

Option 2 should have been used in ‘16 ‘17 or ‘18
Was used this year or last for what 2 games

 

[WA Tiger]

I think when the new coach arrives he will get a tape measure out and IF he has to play Brooks he will work out which position is furthered from the halves and put him there..even at hooker I think he’d fk it up somehow by his running away from support

one of Madges biggest failures was lack courage to experiment ..esp with those games that don’t count..and not knowing when to stop an experiment when he tried something eg AD at fullback

Anyway it’s all been a shitstorm that hopefully we can talk about in the past tense soon

 

[Old Time Tiger]

Absolutely baffled’: Player unrest after Brooks pips Doueihi for Tigers’ player of the year​

Some within the Tigers playing group are “baffled” after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for a prestigious award.

There is unrest in the Tigers playing group after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for the club’s 2021 player of the year award in a confounding decision from the club.
The Daily Telegraph reported Tigers players were blowing up after a three-man panel awarded Brooks the best player of the season ahead of clear favourite Doueihi.

“It is a really interesting one and Michael Maguire, Adam Hartigan and board member Danny Stapleton vote for the player of the year,” Rothfield said on The Big Sports Breakfast.

“Luke Brooks had a fair season. I had a look at the Dally M’s and he got 12 points.

“But Adam Doueihi I think was the most obvious player of the year at any of the 16 clubs.

“He was so superior to any other player at that club. Maybe Daine Laurie was a reasonably close second.

“Doueihi got 20 points in the Dally M votes. He finished eighth in the entire NRL while playing in a fairly ordinary football side.

“And there are players there asking questions. How did Luke Brooks win? And that’s not good for team harmony when players are asking questions like that.

“It is just another really weird decision the Wests Tigers have made.”

Brooks did finish first in try assists at the Tigers with 23 to go with five linebreaks, 45 tackle busts and a try in 24 games 2021.

However Doueihi played four fewer games due to injury and still had 16 try assists, nine linebreaks, 50 tackle busts, nine tries and 69 goals for a tally of 174 points.

Rothfield revealed the players were in shock that Doueihi was not given the award, which seemed so straightforward given his exploits in 2021.

“I spoke to a player manager over the weekend, who has a couple of players at the Wests Tigers and he said most of the group are absolutely baffled about the fact that Adam Doueihi didn’t get the award and Luke Brooks did,” Rothfield said.

“That’s where I got my information and I checked it out with the Wests Tigers yesterday and there was certainly no denials there.”

Laurie Daley agreed that Doueihi’s was the Tigers most consistent player in 2021 by a decent margin.

“I thought Adam Doueihi was their best player,” Daley said.

“I think he was the standout for sure.

“Luke Brooks for me was OK this season and had his moments.

“But being consistent I thought that Adam Doueihi was by far and away their best.”

Tigers stars shocked as Brooks wins award

There is unrest in the Tigers playing group after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for the club’s 2021 player of the year award in a confounding decision from the club.

www.news.com.au

 

[BrotherJim05]

Buzz needs to stfu. Not a single quote from anyone in that article. It's all speculative bs.

More than likely one single player went "ah yea, was a bit surprised Brooksy got it over Doeuihi"

 

[stryker]

Buzz needs to stfu. Not a single quote from anyone in that article. It's all speculative bs.

More than likely one single player went "ah yea, was a bit surprised Brooksy got it over Doeuihi"

There’s no way any players said this to Buzz.…no matter how true it may be.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

There’s no way any players said this to Buzz.…no matter how true it may be.

Slow news day for Buzz, so has to make something up. Learnt from his mate Kenty, whose favourite term is ‘People in the game think…’ that not only makes it impossible to disprove, but makes himself sound more important than what he is.

I agree Douhei was probably more deserving, but Brooks wasn’t a ridiculous recipient. Buzz just trying to stir up trouble.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

If Hastings wins dally m next year with highest ever score, Brooks is still club player of the year.

Chuck brooks on the market, get $400k, pay some idiot club $350k add $300k from cash kitty equals one Lomax at $700k which is easily better than sgi.

Longing for Lomax:

One Lomax = 4 points a game ( average 2021).

Games lost by 4 points or less by tigers this year equals 4

Games drawn/ won with Lomax playing for the Tigers in 2021 = 4

Points theoretically provisionally attributable to Lomax in Tigers jersey in 2021 = 8

Tigers finish table with 18 pts plus a Lomax contribution of 8 = 26 points.

26 points = 7th spot in 2021 (Finals).

 

[WA Tiger]

Absolutely baffled’: Player unrest after Brooks pips Doueihi for Tigers’ player of the year​

Some within the Tigers playing group are “baffled” after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for a prestigious award.

There is unrest in the Tigers playing group after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for the club’s 2021 player of the year award in a confounding decision from the club.
The Daily Telegraph reported Tigers players were blowing up after a three-man panel awarded Brooks the best player of the season ahead of clear favourite Doueihi.

“It is a really interesting one and Michael Maguire, Adam Hartigan and board member Danny Stapleton vote for the player of the year,” Rothfield said on The Big Sports Breakfast.

“Luke Brooks had a fair season. I had a look at the Dally M’s and he got 12 points.

“But Adam Doueihi I think was the most obvious player of the year at any of the 16 clubs.

“He was so superior to any other player at that club. Maybe Daine Laurie was a reasonably close second.

“Doueihi got 20 points in the Dally M votes. He finished eighth in the entire NRL while playing in a fairly ordinary football side.

“And there are players there asking questions. How did Luke Brooks win? And that’s not good for team harmony when players are asking questions like that.

“It is just another really weird decision the Wests Tigers have made.”

Brooks did finish first in try assists at the Tigers with 23 to go with five linebreaks, 45 tackle busts and a try in 24 games 2021.

However Doueihi played four fewer games due to injury and still had 16 try assists, nine linebreaks, 50 tackle busts, nine tries and 69 goals for a tally of 174 points.

Rothfield revealed the players were in shock that Doueihi was not given the award, which seemed so straightforward given his exploits in 2021.

“I spoke to a player manager over the weekend, who has a couple of players at the Wests Tigers and he said most of the group are absolutely baffled about the fact that Adam Doueihi didn’t get the award and Luke Brooks did,” Rothfield said.

“That’s where I got my information and I checked it out with the Wests Tigers yesterday and there was certainly no denials there.”

Laurie Daley agreed that Doueihi’s was the Tigers most consistent player in 2021 by a decent margin.

“I thought Adam Doueihi was their best player,” Daley said.

“I think he was the standout for sure.

“Luke Brooks for me was OK this season and had his moments.

“But being consistent I thought that Adam Doueihi was by far and away their best.”

Tigers stars shocked as Brooks wins award

There is unrest in the Tigers playing group after Luke Brooks inexplicably beat Adam Doueihi for the club’s 2021 player of the year award in a confounding decision from the club.

www.news.com.au

Brooks didn’t get 23 try assists..That’s star territory not Brooks territory..if he did he would be in 4th spot ahead of Tedesco with 22 try assists.. Brooks got 16 try assists one less than AD despite playing four more games more than AD….AD got 9 tries and Brooks got 1…How does a halfback get one try for a full season..and then win the top prize ..What the players said to Buzz is of no concern to me ..
My theory The club has messed up in so many ways but the elephant in the room is Brooks with the $800k next to his name signed by Madge..Madge or Lee or both have pleaded with the other two to pick Brooks because if the fans can believe that Brooks was a good buy..then the heat goes off dumb Madge for signing him and the dumb club for letting Madge sign him..Madge and Brooks , so much in common - nothing good

 

[Fordy20]

I don’t understand why there would be any heat on the club or Madge for locking up Brooks long term. Halfbacks are thin on the ground, which is why the Warriors are snapping up a broken Shaun Johnson and trying to wrest Luke Metcalf away from the Sharks. It’s why the Cowboys signed Chad Townsend on $800k for three seasons. It’s why the Knights extended Pearce despite signing Clifford. Look at the state the Broncos and Bulldogs were in before they signed Reynolds and Burton and how desperate the Raiders were to sign Fogerty, despite him being cast aside by the Titans.

Even if there was a superstar halfback available on the market, why would they come to us when they could go to a bunch of other clubs with better rosters? Our forward pack looked good on paper, but rarely matched it with other packs, let alone dominated like a good pack should. We still don’t have centres worth a pinch of shit, so much so that Madge moved Doueihi there to fill that gap. Laurie isn’t a natural fullback and hasn’t played a full season in that position yet and we have two young hookers, neither of which is good enough to make a clear claim to the starting hooker role.

If you blokes think that all we need is a fresh halfback to take this bunch of kids and plodders to a premiership, you are sorely mistaken. We have so many other issues that need fixing first and keeping Brooks even if it’s just as a placeholder while we do that is the right move. Think about it, even the Roosters spent time fixing the rest of their roster before they punted Pearce and went out and bought the best halfback in the game. If we want long term success, we need to emulate the successful clubs.

 

[Tiger Ted]

I don’t understand why there would be any heat on the club or Madge for locking up Brooks long term. Halfbacks are thin on the ground, which is why the Warriors are snapping up a broken Shaun Johnson and trying to wrest Luke Metcalf away from the Sharks. It’s why the Cowboys signed Chad Townsend on $800k for three seasons. It’s why the Knights extended Pearce despite signing Clifford. Look at the state the Broncos and Bulldogs were in before they signed Reynolds and Burton and how desperate the Raiders were to sign Fogerty, despite him being cast aside by the Titans.

Even if there was a superstar halfback available on the market, why would they come to us when they could go to a bunch of other clubs with better rosters? Our forward pack looked good on paper, but rarely matched it with other packs, let alone dominated like a good pack should. We still don’t have centres worth a pinch of shit, so much so that Madge moved Doueihi there to fill that gap. Laurie isn’t a natural fullback and hasn’t played a full season in that position yet and we have two young hookers, neither of which is good enough to make a clear claim to the starting hooker role.

If you blokes think that all we need is a fresh halfback to take this bunch of kids and plodders to a premiership, you are sorely mistaken. We have so many other issues that need fixing first and keeping Brooks even if it’s just as a placeholder while we do that is the right move. Think about it, even the Roosters spent time fixing the rest of their roster before they punted Pearce and went out and bought the best halfback in the game. If we want long term success, we need to emulate the successful clubs.

I strongly agree with the entire 2nd paragraph.It underscores the horrendous predicament we are in & why we will continue to tread water next season.

 

[WA Tiger]

That’s the second time I’ve lost a near finished post. I don’t even know what I hit to make it disappear but it didn’t happen on the old website..

 

[simmo1]

Watching the Super League grand final, and Josh Drinkwater played very well for Catalans in a losing side. Steered them well around the park with a good kicking game. Just wonder how he may have developed had he been given 150+ games in first grade like Brooks.

 

[Welsh RL & RU watcher]

Why can't Brooks be turned into a rake? Maybe that's his best position.

 

[Tiger05]

Why can't Brooks be turned into a rake? Maybe that's his best position.

If it works great but is it worth trying ? Why not just get a 9 ? Why do we have to prolong his career ?

 

[stryker]

Why can't Brooks be turned into a rake? Maybe that's his best position.

I’ve suggested this since Rob retired.
They are hell bent on keeping him at 7.
Its mind boggling given his lack of impact on the NRL competition in 8 years.

 

[Das Hassler]

Ive also been howling for him to be given a shot at 9...he's quick off the mark and strong...great front on defender and has a short kicking game albeit in need of some work and seemingly uninjurable..i believe he could be every bit as tough as toovey...the only unknown would be his decision making and service from dummy half but that's where Farah would come in. What would there be to lose (apart from possibly Liddle) with Hastings at the club?

 

[Old Time Tiger]

Watching the Super League grand final, and Josh Drinkwater played very well for Catalans in a losing side. Steered them well around the park with a good kicking game. Just wonder how he may have developed had he been given 150+ games in first grade like Brooks.

Yeah simmo, Josh only got the 1 game at the Tigers, much like Jacob Miller, never got much of a look in. Madden may end up the same. I'd much prefer to see the club aligned with a super league club and send a rising 6 & 7 to the UK for a season or 2 to learn their craft the UK way and then bring them back rather floundering in the reserves.

 

[Tiger Ted]

Yeah simmo, Josh only got the 1 game at the Tigers, much like Jacob Miller, never got much of a look in. Madden may end up the same. I'd much prefer to see the club aligned with a super league club and send a rising 6 & 7 to the UK for a season or 2 to learn their craft the UK way and then bring them back rather floundering in the reserves.

Good idea re aligning with super league club.Surely the sheenius with his strong network of contacts in super league could arrange this.