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Luke Burt is crap

eloquentEEL

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I'm sure that explains why Burt's 2 tries came when we were behind on the scoreboard.

You're entitled to your opinion varion, but excuse me if I :lol:
 

Hellsy

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varion said:
Anyone who has Burt in their top 3 has to be joking.

Anyone who has Burt in their top 3 are expressing their own opinion, as are you with your choices. Don't rubbish them for it
 

varion

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eloquentEEL said:
I'm sure that explains why Burt's 2 tries came when we were behind on the scoreboard.

You're entitled to your opinion varion, but excuse me if I :lol:

Look i guess i get over the top with the Burt hating but after years and years of ineptitude its a bit old when Burt lovers come and give him a 3 because he didnt have his usual shocker.

I think the plaudits have come because he made good run in broken field setting up the Ben Smith try (when we had WELL AND TRULY broken them and warriors had made a mistake - wasnt if he had palmed off / bashed through the warriors to score). Is this action deserving of a 3 rating? LOL.....

Do you honestly believe no other 1st grade winger could of scored the 2 tries Burt scored?

1) run and grab the ball from a Morris kick and no one in front to tackle you.

2) catch a tahu pass and score with no one in front due to Tahu drawing the opposing winger.

You may of also been pleased with the magic and secure way he holds the ball when he runs (often causing him to lose the ball - particularly when he is smashed) or when he trys to quickly play the ball.

You may also love his innate uncomprehendible ability to drop high kicks.

You may also love the the way he uses his arms to try and tackle guys going for the tryline as he doesnt want to put his body on the line. Maybe his defense impresses some of you.

I'm not saying he had a shocker but his performance was a 6-7/10 performance at best.
 

Hellsy

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Thats fine because it is your opinion, but don't tell those of us that did give him points that we 'have to be joking'. If you want to Burt bash then go to the thread where it is in abundance. You have no control on my opinion, nor those that also voted for him.

The players you picked also had fine games.
 

strider

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rowdy said:
Yahoo for Luke Burt!

Well done rowdy....u will retain your spot as our forum leader and hence on the signature banner

:lol: - like this will make u happy in any way :lol:
 

rowdy

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I don't mean anything by this, I don't want to bring it up again. Please, im not trying to downgrade anyone...i just want to give my reasons why i gave him my three points. I dont mind if no-one else agrees.

Im a Luke Burt fan, i admit that (although i shouldn't really have to), I also admit, that he makes mistakes.

He made a mistake early on in the game yesterday and he knew it.

He wanted to make up for it and it seems as though what he gave for the team from then on was what was asked of him - he was there to get the points, finish off what others had started, and he did that. Sure there were other great players on the field, but he stood out for me in our round 22 game against the warriors. I dont know what will happen next week, hopefully he'll deserve my three points again.

Thanks!
 

Stagger eel

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rowdy said:
I don't mean anything by this, I don't want to bring it up again. Please, im not trying to downgrade anyone...i just want to give my reasons why i gave him my three points. I dont mind if no-one else agrees.

Im a Luke Burt fan, i admit that (although i shouldn't really have to), I also admit, that he makes mistakes.

He made a mistake early on in the game yesterday and he knew it.

He wanted to make up for it and it seems as though what he gave for the team from then on was what was asked of him - he was there to get the points, finish off what others had started, and he did that. Sure there were other great players on the field, but he stood out for me in our round 22 game against the warriors. I dont know what will happen next week, hopefully he'll deserve my three points again.

Thanks!

I've been waiting with baited breath with your opinions and where you stand on Luke Burt, now that I have read them I will sleep well tonight,

BTW, after a bad start he did pick himself up and had a very good game for mine. it showed great character to come back after the mistake, unlike a certain current test half back who went through a 6 week form slump after a dodgy origin match.
 

eloquentEEL

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varion said:
Look i guess i get over the top with the Burt hating but after years and years of ineptitude its a bit old when Burt lovers come and give him a 3 because he didnt have his usual shocker.

I think the plaudits have come because he made good run in broken field setting up the Ben Smith try (when we had WELL AND TRULY broken them and warriors had made a mistake - wasnt if he had palmed off / bashed through the warriors to score). Is this action deserving of a 3 rating? LOL.....

Do you honestly believe no other 1st grade winger could of scored the 2 tries Burt scored?

1) run and grab the ball from a Morris kick and no one in front to tackle you.

2) catch a tahu pass and score with no one in front due to Tahu drawing the opposing winger.

You may of also been pleased with the magic and secure way he holds the ball when he runs (often causing him to lose the ball - particularly when he is smashed) or when he trys to quickly play the ball.

You may also love his innate uncomprehendible ability to drop high kicks.

You may also love the the way he uses his arms to try and tackle guys going for the tryline as he doesnt want to put his body on the line. Maybe his defense impresses some of you.

I'm not saying he had a shocker but his performance was a 6-7/10 performance at best.

sure... a lot of other wingers would've also positioned themselves to score the 2 tries Burt did, although I'm not sure that any 1st grade winger would've been calling for the ball the way Burt did for the first one. of course, that's besides the point as I was just responding to your claim that "When the game is in the balance he is always missing".

you've gone on to mention a couple of errors in Burt's game. if a couple of errors is enough to keep someone out of your top 3, does that mean that Hindy (who came up with a couple of errors far stupider than Burt's) should be excluded? hell no! so why should Burt?
 

Hurriflatch

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Even though Burt's two tries were relativly simple he still needed to be there.

also Grothe had a similar case in Canberra where all he needed to do was catch the ball and put it down with no one in front of him but he couldn't do it.

Burt's attacking game was quiet strong he scored 2 tries kicked 5 from 7 including a pearler from the sideline and he played a major role in Ben Smith's 2nd try.

In defence he was a weaklink especially in the Warriors 1st try, but just like the likes of Chris Walker etc it's a case of having a weaker defensive player to have the advantage of a stronger attacking player.

It will be irrelevent in a couple of weeks anyway as barring injury to other players Petersen should be coming into the side for Burt when fit as in finals you can't have any blatent weak defenders.
 

Macca_

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varion said:
Anyone who has Burt in their top 3 has to be joking.

No I wasn't actually. He deserved the 1 point I gave him.

And given the fact that there were a number of performances worthy of getting into the top 3 many will have left out players who could have been there and many will have put players in who others have left out.

This thread is for people to vote on what they in their opinion believe are the 3 to get the points. If you feel the need to have a shot at others for giving that opinion go do it in a different thread or one of the many that bag out Luke Burt.

Anyone who says people must be joking for offering an opinion that is different to theirs is the real clown.
 

varion

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eloquentEEL said:
sure... a lot of other wingers would've also positioned themselves to score the 2 tries Burt did, although I'm not sure that any 1st grade winger would've been calling for the ball the way Burt did for the first one. of course, that's besides the point as I was just responding to your claim that "When the game is in the balance he is always missing".

you've gone on to mention a couple of errors in Burt's game. if a couple of errors is enough to keep someone out of your top 3, does that mean that Hindy (who came up with a couple of errors far stupider than Burt's) should be excluded? hell no! so why should Burt?

Because even if Hindy makes 5 errors in a game he is still contributing greatly to the team.

Hindy also has 10 times the workrate of Burt (to be expected of course) but the funny thing is usually Burt makes as many mistakes if not more as Hindmarsh with 10x less workrate...is there something wrong here with these statistics or is it just me?

Burt makes these same characteristic errors over and over again. All players have bad games but there are some players who continually have bad games.

Mistakes wouldnt rule you out being in the top 3 players but its the overall influence you have in the match and as it is your opinion that Burt had a good game i am still in the opinion you could of had any 1st grade quality winger and given them Burts opportunies that were handed to him and you would of got a relatively similar result.

We'll end this on agreeing to disagree.
 

varion

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Macca_ said:
No I wasn't actually. He deserved the 1 point I gave him.

And given the fact that there were a number of performances worthy of getting into the top 3 many will have left out players who could have been there and many will have put players in who others have left out.

This thread is for people to vote on what they in their opinion believe are the 3 to get the points. If you feel the need to have a shot at others for giving that opinion go do it in a different thread or one of the many that bag out Luke Burt.

Anyone who says people must be joking for offering an opinion that is different to theirs is the real clown.

Give me my baggy pants, red nose, wig and call me Krusty.

Burt is truly a 1st grade quality player and i bow down to all Burt lovers out there. I concede i am totally wrong in all my arguments.

P.S:- Mat Utai was so quaking in his boots that he decided to break his opponents Jaw so he had an excuse to miss his confrontation with Burt next week. Utai a renowned high jumper was likely scared silly of the bomb defusal expert Burt and had doubts his tackle breaking ability would be able to break with Burts ironclad defensive skills.
 

Hellsy

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Don't be such a fricken moron.
You can vote how you want, just don't tell others how to.
 

Macca_

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varion said:
Give me my baggy pants, red nose, wig and call me Krusty.
Suits you well.
varion said:
Burt is truly a 1st grade quality player and i bow down to all Burt lovers out there. I concede i am totally wrong in all my arguments.
First off, I'm not a Burt lover. I support him when he plays, because he wears the blue and gold. I know he is incosistent and would like to see Williams given a go or a replacement found. But while Smith continues to pick him I'll support him and if I believe he should get 1 point for a performance, then that is my damn opinion. I don't need to be told it's a joke.

It's not about a bloody argument. It's about clowns like you who knock other peoples opinions because it doesn't go along with yours. It's a pet hate of mine. Who gives the the right knock an opinion of someone elses because it doesn't go along with yours?

Now if you don't mind Krusty can we get back to what the thread is about -

3 -
2 -
1 -

Go into another thread and debate the game and the players.
 

Eelementary

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The mail I'm getting is that the main reason that Williams is languishing in Premier League simply is because the coaching staff believe he is not ready (physically) to handle the rigours of week in, week out Frist Grade NRL football.

So, why throw him in then?

I know - you may propmptly reply with, "But then why add Burt into the team?"

Because adding Williams when he isn't quite ready would cease his progression and development.
 

Suitman

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Eelementary said:
The mail I'm getting is that the main reason that Williams is languishing in Premier League simply is because the coaching staff believe he is not ready (physically) to handle the rigours of week in, week out Frist Grade NRL football.

So, why throw him in then?

I know - you may propmptly reply with, "But then why add Burt into the team?"

Because adding Williams when he isn't quite ready would cease his progression and development.

As opposed to someone who has had 5 years?

Tell that line to Wayne Bennett about Karmichael Hunt.

Suity
 

Eelementary

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I would like to think that putting in Williams when the coaching staff believe he needs some work still would not be a positive move.

Williams' confidence and form may suffer drastically.

If we had other options, Burt would not be there - but Petersen is injured, Graham is not a winger, and other wingers are either in the same boat as Williams or just not at a First Grade level yet.

From what I have been told, Williams has all the skills - it's just that the coaching staff feel he needs to mature physically a little more to handle the rigours of regualr Grade football.

Next year he may well be on the wing with Grothe - who knows?
 

ParraDude_Jay

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More than likely though Brian will have his contract upgraded and extended, Smith will NEVER drop Luke Burt for Williams
 

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