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Match Discussion: Round 19 vs North Qld @ Queensland Country Bank Stadium, Townsville

Who will win? Round 19: North Qld v Wests Tigers

  • North Queensland Cowboys 13+

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • North Queensland Cowboys 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wests Tigers 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wests Tigers 13+

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .

Tigerm

Coach
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It's time to move on.

I dont want to follow a sport where the game is played on Sunday, in court on Wednesday and you find out who won 2 weeks later.

Bottom line is the the rules have been tweaked to the point where the refs are too scared to make a call and are only too pleased to send decisions upstairs. If I hear another ref say to captain "Do you want to challenge it" I will jump out the window.

Vlandys saved the game from covid only to give it a slow death of pointless interruptions with his boutique rule changes designed to "quicken the game up" and "introduce attrition". How are you doing this if games now go for two hours and because of all the stoppages coaches are not using all their interchanges?

I am a little biased I know, but Rugby League reached perfection in 2005. There was almost no wrestle, no bunker, the video ref only spoke when spoken to and the product was expansive exciting Rugby League.

Chin up lads, we won the game, everyone knows it and this team is too good to get the wooden spoon.
NO, we didn’t win the game but we should have.
 
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I'd like to see it pursued to the end.

Having said that, I kinda hope nothing comes of it and the same thing happens again in a sudden death finals game. The NRL have made a rod for their back, it would be amazing to watch them explain their way out of f**king a team out of the finals. And because it's a finals game, I won't have to worry about it being us again.
 

simmo05

Bench
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4,133
Lee would be the only club boss who is both dumb enough and has an ego big enough to try and take the NRL to court. I won't lie, it would be pretty funny to watch, but it won't do us any good.

I'm not sure what would make us look sillier - losing the court case, or winning it getting the two points and still ending up with the spoon.

It was a f**ked decision, but there will be a day we benefit from something equally outrageous. Best thing the club can do is move on and try and win as many of the remaining games as possible and salvage something from this shitty season.
I don't know, most people I have spoken to want the tigers to dispute this. The constant reaming of bottom teams is widely acknowledged by all, and alot of people see this as a way to get all the nrls shit f**kery into the spotlight, and hold them to account.
 
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Tim Sheens showed up Paul Kent on 360 about a month or so ago, nothing much has changed since then, he is still a bobblehead who makes old Buzz and Baldy look intelligent on the show.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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Tigers hire a leading silk to fight Cowboys result
By Adam Pengilly
July 29, 2022 — 4.29pm

The Wests Tigers have hired one of Australia’s leading silks, who was part of Jack de Belin’s legal team when he challenged the NRL’s no-fault stand-down rule, in a bid to overturn the result of their controversial game against the Cowboys.

Yaseen Shariff, SC, a prominent member of Sydney’s legal fraternity, has been engaged by the Tigers as they await a report from the NRL on the concluding stages of last Sunday’s game in Townsville.

The move is seen as the most significant yet from the Tigers to have the two competition points stripped from the finals-bound Cowboys after Valentine Holmes kicked an after-the-siren penalty goal to win the game.

NRL head of football Graham Annesley acknowledged the decision from bunker official Ashley Klein to penalise Asu Kepaoa for obstructing Kyle Feldt after a short kick-off was wrong, but defended the right for the Cowboys to use a captain’s challenge on the play.

Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis, the Brydens Lawyers principal, suggested the prospect of legal action after the game.

The club has now hired Shariff, who was appointed a special counsel in 2020, to act for them. The appointment is independent of Hagipantelis and his company.

Shariff, who also provides legal advice to federal government departments, has recently represented the Seven Network in its legal battle against former presenter Simon Reeve. He was part of de Belin’s appeal team, which featured Arthur Moses and Timothy Kane, when the St George Illawarra forward launched a Federal Court appeal against the validity of the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy.

De Belin spent more than two years on the sidelines as he faced sexual assault charges before returning to the NRL. He faced two court trials, but neither jury was able to reach a majority verdict. The Director of Public Prosecutions then dropped the charges altogether.

On Friday afternoon, the Tigers were still waiting for the NRL to send a report which included audio and transcripts of communication between players, referee Chris Butler and video review officials from the final minutes against the Cowboys.

The Tigers lodged a formal complaint with the NRL on Monday. The ARL Commission has asked for a full report on the incident.

“I’ve been speaking every day with Graham [Annesley] and they’re committed to responding to our formal complaint,” Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe said. “It’s important to us to make sure we receive the necessary material, as requested in our complaint, before we proceed to the next step.”

Klein was stood down from all refereeing and bunker duties this weekend. Butler will officiate the Knights-Bulldogs game in Newcastle on Sunday.

The Cowboys have said they will fight any push to have competition points taken from them. The Tigers would have climbed off the bottom of the ladder had they beaten Todd Payten’s side, in what would have been the upset of the season.

Sports lawyer Tim Fuller said the Tigers would have trouble overturning the result if, as the NRL said, the captain’s challenge was launched within the rules.

“If the shoe was on other foot, and it was accepted the captain’s challenge could not have been called, that’s the sort of situation where the Wests Tigers would have a case,” Fuller said. “If they were able to establish the NRL acted outside their rules, then that’s a different matter.

“It might not be too long before they get it wrong on a captain’s challenge where it’s allowed in the game and it’s outside the rules, and if it affects the game, absolutely a club could legally challenge it. They’re not immune to legal liability and we may well see a situation where a club challenges it and a result is reversed one day.”

Interim coach Brett Kimmorley will be back in charge of the side when they take on the Broncos at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday having missed the trip to Townsville due to COVID-19.

 

Tigerm

Coach
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Tigers hire a leading silk to fight Cowboys result
By Adam Pengilly
July 29, 2022 — 4.29pm

The Wests Tigers have hired one of Australia’s leading silks, who was part of Jack de Belin’s legal team when he challenged the NRL’s no-fault stand-down rule, in a bid to overturn the result of their controversial game against the Cowboys.

Yaseen Shariff, SC, a prominent member of Sydney’s legal fraternity, has been engaged by the Tigers as they await a report from the NRL on the concluding stages of last Sunday’s game in Townsville.

The move is seen as the most significant yet from the Tigers to have the two competition points stripped from the finals-bound Cowboys after Valentine Holmes kicked an after-the-siren penalty goal to win the game.

NRL head of football Graham Annesley acknowledged the decision from bunker official Ashley Klein to penalise Asu Kepaoa for obstructing Kyle Feldt after a short kick-off was wrong, but defended the right for the Cowboys to use a captain’s challenge on the play.

Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis, the Brydens Lawyers principal, suggested the prospect of legal action after the game.

The club has now hired Shariff, who was appointed a special counsel in 2020, to act for them. The appointment is independent of Hagipantelis and his company.

Shariff, who also provides legal advice to federal government departments, has recently represented the Seven Network in its legal battle against former presenter Simon Reeve. He was part of de Belin’s appeal team, which featured Arthur Moses and Timothy Kane, when the St George Illawarra forward launched a Federal Court appeal against the validity of the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy.

De Belin spent more than two years on the sidelines as he faced sexual assault charges before returning to the NRL. He faced two court trials, but neither jury was able to reach a majority verdict. The Director of Public Prosecutions then dropped the charges altogether.

On Friday afternoon, the Tigers were still waiting for the NRL to send a report which included audio and transcripts of communication between players, referee Chris Butler and video review officials from the final minutes against the Cowboys.

The Tigers lodged a formal complaint with the NRL on Monday. The ARL Commission has asked for a full report on the incident.

“I’ve been speaking every day with Graham [Annesley] and they’re committed to responding to our formal complaint,” Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe said. “It’s important to us to make sure we receive the necessary material, as requested in our complaint, before we proceed to the next step.”

Klein was stood down from all refereeing and bunker duties this weekend. Butler will officiate the Knights-Bulldogs game in Newcastle on Sunday.

The Cowboys have said they will fight any push to have competition points taken from them. The Tigers would have climbed off the bottom of the ladder had they beaten Todd Payten’s side, in what would have been the upset of the season.

Sports lawyer Tim Fuller said the Tigers would have trouble overturning the result if, as the NRL said, the captain’s challenge was launched within the rules.

“If the shoe was on other foot, and it was accepted the captain’s challenge could not have been called, that’s the sort of situation where the Wests Tigers would have a case,” Fuller said. “If they were able to establish the NRL acted outside their rules, then that’s a different matter.

“It might not be too long before they get it wrong on a captain’s challenge where it’s allowed in the game and it’s outside the rules, and if it affects the game, absolutely a club could legally challenge it. They’re not immune to legal liability and we may well see a situation where a club challenges it and a result is reversed one day.”

Interim coach Brett Kimmorley will be back in charge of the side when they take on the Broncos at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday having missed the trip to Townsville due to COVID-19.

Go the WT’s, give ‘em a head high around the upper chest😂😇🫣
Interesting, that the Cows are not as obliging and friendly now?
@Vic Mackey a new chapter in the our “book of feuds” coming🤣
 
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gordsy

Juniors
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2,124
This is all smoke and mirror bullshit. All I see here is Lee trying to keep his name in the papers. He really does come across as a sad little man with an Inferiority complex. How on earth did we end up with this dickhead as the leader of our club. I don't know who is a worse leadership pairing Andrew the Invisible man Abdo and Vlandys or us with Lee and Pasco. And people wonder why we are so hopeless.
 
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The NRL as a number of issues in our game that they need to address as the game is becoming a farcical joke similar to soccer and union.
Perception, of who is meant to win plays a large part in our game unfortunately.
 

Pezz70

Juniors
Messages
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Tigers hire a leading silk to fight Cowboys result
By Adam Pengilly
July 29, 2022 — 4.29pm

The Wests Tigers have hired one of Australia’s leading silks, who was part of Jack de Belin’s legal team when he challenged the NRL’s no-fault stand-down rule, in a bid to overturn the result of their controversial game against the Cowboys.

Yaseen Shariff, SC, a prominent member of Sydney’s legal fraternity, has been engaged by the Tigers as they await a report from the NRL on the concluding stages of last Sunday’s game in Townsville.

The move is seen as the most significant yet from the Tigers to have the two competition points stripped from the finals-bound Cowboys after Valentine Holmes kicked an after-the-siren penalty goal to win the game.

NRL head of football Graham Annesley acknowledged the decision from bunker official Ashley Klein to penalise Asu Kepaoa for obstructing Kyle Feldt after a short kick-off was wrong, but defended the right for the Cowboys to use a captain’s challenge on the play.

Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis, the Brydens Lawyers principal, suggested the prospect of legal action after the game.

The club has now hired Shariff, who was appointed a special counsel in 2020, to act for them. The appointment is independent of Hagipantelis and his company.

Shariff, who also provides legal advice to federal government departments, has recently represented the Seven Network in its legal battle against former presenter Simon Reeve. He was part of de Belin’s appeal team, which featured Arthur Moses and Timothy Kane, when the St George Illawarra forward launched a Federal Court appeal against the validity of the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy.

De Belin spent more than two years on the sidelines as he faced sexual assault charges before returning to the NRL. He faced two court trials, but neither jury was able to reach a majority verdict. The Director of Public Prosecutions then dropped the charges altogether.

On Friday afternoon, the Tigers were still waiting for the NRL to send a report which included audio and transcripts of communication between players, referee Chris Butler and video review officials from the final minutes against the Cowboys.

The Tigers lodged a formal complaint with the NRL on Monday. The ARL Commission has asked for a full report on the incident.

“I’ve been speaking every day with Graham [Annesley] and they’re committed to responding to our formal complaint,” Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe said. “It’s important to us to make sure we receive the necessary material, as requested in our complaint, before we proceed to the next step.”

Klein was stood down from all refereeing and bunker duties this weekend. Butler will officiate the Knights-Bulldogs game in Newcastle on Sunday.

The Cowboys have said they will fight any push to have competition points taken from them. The Tigers would have climbed off the bottom of the ladder had they beaten Todd Payten’s side, in what would have been the upset of the season.

Sports lawyer Tim Fuller said the Tigers would have trouble overturning the result if, as the NRL said, the captain’s challenge was launched within the rules.

“If the shoe was on other foot, and it was accepted the captain’s challenge could not have been called, that’s the sort of situation where the Wests Tigers would have a case,” Fuller said. “If they were able to establish the NRL acted outside their rules, then that’s a different matter.

“It might not be too long before they get it wrong on a captain’s challenge where it’s allowed in the game and it’s outside the rules, and if it affects the game, absolutely a club could legally challenge it. They’re not immune to legal liability and we may well see a situation where a club challenges it and a result is reversed one day.”

Interim coach Brett Kimmorley will be back in charge of the side when they take on the Broncos at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday having missed the trip to Townsville due to COVID-19.

We should move on. Concentrate on playing well enough to take the referee out of the game, something we haven’t done for a long time. Offload the victim mentality and become the Victor.
 

Das Hassler

Bench
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We should move on. Concentrate on playing well enough to take the referee out of the game, something we haven’t done for a long time. Offload the victim mentality and become the Victor.

It's not a victim mentality...if we can get the missing 2 points back then let the nrl worry about the flow on effects...they caused it..not WT. 17 guys beat themselves up for those points...f k 'em!
 

WA Tiger

Bench
Messages
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This is all smoke and mirror bullshit. All I see here is Lee trying to keep his name in the papers. He really does come across as a sad little man with an Inferiority complex. How on earth did we end up with this dickhead as the leader of our club. I don't know who is a worse leadership pairing Andrew the Invisible man Abdo and Vlandys or us with Lee and Pasco. And people wonder why we are so hopeless.
The more Lee says it’s clear the less he knows
 

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