Match Payments from the NRL

[Jetka100]

One of the things I would like for the NRL to consider when discussing future player enterprise agreements, is to maybe keep some money aside for match Payments to players from the winning team. Each player, regardless of their club arrangement would receive a set amount on top of their club payments for each match they won. Thoughts??

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I definitely think the Salary cap needs a big rethink. We cling so tightly to the idea that every club should have the same cap each year, yet bitch constantly about how often players jump between clubs. Either we're all to stupid to see the connection or we just dont want to talk about it...

The 2 things id like to see looked at are:

- big increase in match payments for rep games so THAT is where players make their millions (at club level, the focus is on getting noticed by rep selectors. not chasing cash between clubs)
- variations to long-service allowance. The current system of "all clubs get the same" makes the allowance meaningless, might as well just put that money into the cap. If they changed it so clubs could have % of salaries excluded based on years of service (eg, been at the club 8 years = only 50% of salary counted in cap) we would see clubs getting a much greater advantage in retaining players and we would discourage established players from jumping between clubs as the best pay-day goes to the loyal people.

My broader point is that the Salary cap is a mechanism that can achieve lots of things. We are only using it for general equality right now, but there is huge potential to bring back loyalty (or at leas the illusion of it) by genuinely rewarding long service or taking the huge pay-days away from clubland all together...

 

[Jetka100]

I think with rep games, the winners should be getting twice as much as the loser. Currently with Origin they both get the same payment.

 

[dangerousdave]

I definitely think the Salary cap needs a big rethink. We cling so tightly to the idea that every club should have the same cap each year, yet bitch constantly about how often players jump between clubs. Either we're all to stupid to see the connection or we just dont want to talk about it...

The 2 things id like to see looked at are:

- big increase in match payments for rep games so THAT is where players make their millions (at club level, the focus is on getting noticed by rep selectors. not chasing cash between clubs)
- variations to long-service allowance. The current system of "all clubs get the same" makes the allowance meaningless, might as well just put that money into the cap. If they changed it so clubs could have % of salaries excluded based on years of service (eg, been at the club 8 years = only 50% of salary counted in cap) we would see clubs getting a much greater advantage in retaining players and we would discourage established players from jumping between clubs as the best pay-day goes to the loyal people.

My broader point is that the Salary cap is a mechanism that can achieve lots of things. We are only using it for general equality right now, but there is huge potential to bring back loyalty (or at leas the illusion of it) by genuinely rewarding long service or taking the huge pay-days away from clubland all together...

Love the long service idea. It's been much talked about for a while.

The rep idea is ridiculous though. Goes against the most basic principles of labour economics. Players are, should and always will be paid proportionally to the value that their labour adds to the game. Yes Origin is big but NRL fixtures are still the biggest source of TV $$$.

 

[SBD82]

I think with rep games, the winners should be getting twice as much as the loser. Currently with Origin they both get the same payment.

I see your point for origin, but I'd hate to see even more incentives for players to do a radradra.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Even if the NRL did consider it, I doubt the Players Association would agree to it. The players who are on the lower end of the pay scale would object the most as it would hit them harder in the hip pocket.

 

[Hawkins]

I think with rep games, the winners should be getting twice as much as the loser. Currently with Origin they both get the same payment.

They pay NSW players?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

- big increase in match payments for rep games so THAT is where players make their millions (at club level, the focus is on getting noticed by rep selectors. not chasing cash between clubs).

What rep games? Origin? So the Kiwi's miss out? How do you then incent players born in the Polynesian countries who may also be eligible for NSW or Queensland to stick solid with their countries of birth? For those like Semi who are ineligible, how do you incent them to stay in the NRL when their prospects of playing origin are zero, chances of playing for Australia are slim to none. Why would they not instead go to Rugby such as in France where they could earn more? Club football is the bread and butter of the big TV deals, you cannot take the money away and keep it reserved for the minority of players who play rep football.

 

[Jetka100]

I agree that the money should be directed towards the club games. I just think we need to do more than to incentivise every player busting their guts to win. A match payment for a win would reward hard work from all players, especially those lower paid players. It would also encourage teams to compete right to the end of the season. If the salary cap was increased, most of this would just go to the star players. Also need to increase the minimum payment.

 

[siv]

Even if the NRL did consider it, I doubt the Players Association would agree to it. The players who are on the lower end of the pay scale would object the most as it would hit them harder in the hip pocket.

Maybe match winning payment should be the same for all FG players

Where all players have a base salary which is managed under the cap

Eg $Xk per win each for the 17 players paid directly by the NRL