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Matt Dufty

Maddragon99

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Did you not say Dufty was the weak link not that long ago?
Absolutely! But that was with Maximus & Ramsey on the left not Williame & JP

we scored 27 tries on the right last year compared to 5 on the left. Not seeing how Williame & JP fix that problem so yes, in that scenario we’d be totally dependent on Dufty. Not happy with that team at all
 

BLM01

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Absolutely! But that was with Maximus & Ramsey on the left not Williame & JP

we scored 27 tries on the right last year compared to 5 on the left. Not seeing how Williame & JP fix that problem so yes, in that scenario we’d be totally dependent on Dufty. Not happy with that team at all
Ok I get it. Dufty is not the obvious weakest link.
I like Max and Cody but hardly played any 1st grade. How can you measure Dufty is the weakest when it comes to scoring tries with them in the side. Dufty set up and scored a few!
Probably more then Rav..or Zac..or Max or Cody?
 

Maddragon99

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Absolutely! But that was with Maximus & Ramsey on the left not Williame & JP

we scored 27 tries on the right last year compared to 5 on the left. Not seeing how Williame & JP fix that problem so yes, in that scenario we’d be totally dependent on Dufty. Not happy with that team at all
I’m actually trying to do Dufty a favour, if the side is balanced & getting roughly equal production from both left & right sides it takes pressure off Dufty. He can combine with the halves to create overlaps etc. Like Darius did when both Gaz & Coops could create on their own. Gasnier & Cooper were the text book of balanced attack. That structure won us a comp.

My comments about Dufty being a weakness in a balanced team as I described above directly relates to his weakness under the high ball, his poor tackling ability only of only 71% & his inability to organises the defence line. There’s a lot more to being a fullback than running around looking flash.

Just wait, we’ll lose a close game next year because of a major Dufty error in defence & then watch everyone jump on the Ramsey bandwagon.

I’m sorry mate but that how I see it.

Poor quality video but a reminder of what a liability Dufty is in defence.

 

Maddragon99

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Ok I get it. Dufty is not the obvious weakest link.
I like Max and Cody but hardly played any 1st grade. How can you measure Dufty is the weakest when it comes to scoring tries with them in the side. Dufty set up and scored a few!
Probably more then Rav..or Zac..or Max or Cody?
Sorry mate I linked my reply to the wrong comment.
 

possm

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The coaching staff will have a good understanding of how there players are progressing. From all reports I hear that Lomax, Ramsey and the Feagai brothers are doing very well.

In the upcoming trials we will see if Dufty, Williame and JP have improved. We will also get a glimse of the ability of Ramsey and the Feagai brothers suitability for first grade.

Maybe George Dragon can give us his opinion.
 

SnowDragon

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I have trust that the coaches will decide what’s best based on the off season development. True, I’d love to see us develop our youth, but it is a balance at this stage.

Personally I think;
1) Dufty had a great year in 2020 in comparison to most of our squad. He deserves the FB jersey. But he needs to keep deserving his jumper like everyone else.
2) Ramsey has shown enough to warrant a position on the wing. Excitement machine. If the FB opens up because Dufty accepts an offer elsewhere, of his performance drops then fair enough.
3) Max looked great as did Sullivan. Mat Fegai may also be the future. We should look after and develop, test along the way. Use our cash to make sure we give ourselves every chance to secure the cream of the crop.
4) if JP and Rav4 are performing then they may deserve their chance. It’s about competition. We shouldn’t accept people just because they have experience OR youth
 

kit66

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Dufty is the obvious weak link but time will tell

The weak link who provided 40% of our tries last year.
Did you know Zac Lomax tops the league for both Handling Errors ( 36 ) and Neagative Plays ( 40 ), maybe we should drop him too.
Anyway, back to reality, I'm looking forward to Dufty improving under Hook this year. I want to see those cut out bullet passes again, the amazing footwork and the 70mtr tries getting the whole crowd on their feet, exhilarating stuff, love it.
 

muzby

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The weak link who provided 40% of our tries last year.
Did you know Zac Lomax tops the league for both Handling Errors ( 36 ) and Neagative Plays ( 40 ), maybe we should drop him too.
Anyway, back to reality, I'm looking forward to Dufty improving under Hook this year. I want to see those cut out bullet passes again, the amazing footwork and the 70mtr tries getting the whole crowd on their feet, exhilarating stuff, love it.
Shhhh... People don’t like hearing about Lomax’s error rate, nor Dufty’s impressive stats...
 

redv13

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Shhhh... People don’t like hearing about Lomax’s error rate, nor Dufty’s impressive stats...
It’s not that people don’t like hearing about Lomax’s error rate, it’s the assumption that the error was due to poor play or player. Yes his error rate was high but a portion of those were from putting himself in a position to catch a bomb and score or set up a team mate close to the try line. Those in my opinion I can live with every game. The kid busted his guts every game and was consistently in our top 3 players each game of 2020.
 

kit66

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I’m actually trying to do Dufty a favour, if the side is balanced & getting roughly equal production from both left & right sides it takes pressure off Dufty. He can combine with the halves to create overlaps etc. Like Darius did when both Gaz & Coops could create on their own. Gasnier & Cooper were the text book of balanced attack. That structure won us a comp.

My comments about Dufty being a weakness in a balanced team as I described above directly relates to his weakness under the high ball, his poor tackling ability only of only 71% & his inability to organises the defence line. There’s a lot more to being a fullback than running around looking flash.

Just wait, we’ll lose a close game next year because of a major Dufty error in defence & then watch everyone jump on the Ramsey bandwagon.

I’m sorry mate but that how I see it.

Poor quality video but a reminder of what a liability Dufty is in defence.


Doing Dufty favours, now you're just taking the p*ss. Really, the Staggs try where he brushed off Aitken like a used, half deflated sex doll and rampaged down field with the ball in two hands and dummies to 2 or 3 players in the clear in support. Who stops the try in that situation ?

Running around, looking flash, making line breaks, scoring tries and setting them up what a useless, useless b*st*rd. He should retire immediately in shame.
Do you have any thoughts on Slippery Morris ? Just wondering. Gasnier ? Those white boots, I bet that gnaws at ya.
 

redv13

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I’m actually trying to do Dufty a favour, if the side is balanced & getting roughly equal production from both left & right sides it takes pressure off Dufty. He can combine with the halves to create overlaps etc. Like Darius did when both Gaz & Coops could create on their own. Gasnier & Cooper were the text book of balanced attack. That structure won us a comp.

My comments about Dufty being a weakness in a balanced team as I described above directly relates to his weakness under the high ball, his poor tackling ability only of only 71% & his inability to organises the defence line. There’s a lot more to being a fullback than running around looking flash.

Just wait, we’ll lose a close game next year because of a major Dufty error in defence & then watch everyone jump on the Ramsey bandwagon.

I’m sorry mate but that how I see it.

Poor quality video but a reminder of what a liability Dufty is in defence.

Um yeah Aitken’s fault by a country mile. Can’t blame Dufty for that one
 

muzby

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Shhhh... People don’t like hearing about Lomax’s error rate, nor Dufty’s impressive stats...
See what I mean @kit66 they come out like clockwork:
It’s not that people don’t like hearing about Lomax’s error rate, it’s the assumption that the error was due to poor play or player. Yes his error rate was high but a portion of those were from putting himself in a position to catch a bomb and score or set up a team mate close to the try line. Those in my opinion I can live with every game. The kid busted his guts every game and was consistently in our top 3 players each game of 2020.
 

Maddragon99

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The weak link who provided 40% of our tries last year.
Did you know Zac Lomax tops the league for both Handling Errors ( 36 ) and Neagative Plays ( 40 ), maybe we should drop him too.
Anyway, back to reality, I'm looking forward to Dufty improving under Hook this year. I want to see those cut out bullet passes again, the amazing footwork and the 70mtr tries getting the whole crowd on their feet, exhilarating stuff, love it.
Yes well aware of Zac’s error rate very alarming. But it’s actually a positive. He was dynamic for us in 2020 & still made the extended origin team. Imagine how much improvement is in him just by tidying up his handling? On paper he’ll always have errors due to his higher than average attempts to catch attacking kicks. He did catch quiet a few last year which led directly to tries.

Also FYI no one studies stats more than me, my opinions are based on analytics not emotion. On a personal level I couldn’t careless who plays as long as we are winning & in the 8. That includes Dufty.
 

muzby

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Yes well aware of Zac’s error rate very alarming. But it’s actually a positive. He was dynamic for us in 2020 & still made the extended origin team. Imagine how much improvement is in him just by tidying up his handling? On paper he’ll always have errors due to his higher than average attempts to catch attacking kicks. He did catch quiet a few last year which led directly to tries.

Also FYI no one studies stats more than me, my opinions are based on analytics not emotion. On a personal level I couldn’t careless who plays as long as we are winning & in the 8. That includes Dufty.
But his error rate isn’t just about catching (or not catching) bombs..

Lomax also topped our team for allowing the opposition to break our defensive line.. In comparison that is more than twice what Aitken did..

And he missed nearly twice as many tackles as Aitken too..

Oh, and he was also the reason for twice as many tries being let in as Aitken was..

Doesn’t mean he’s a bad player, he just has a lot of things to work on, which is expected from young players..

But it also highlights how not-bad Aitken was.. (And despite not playing every game, Euan had the most running metres of all our backs)

Needless to say it shows what impact perception has on how we believe players perform..


And I still say we need to watch out for Aitken when we play the warriors..
 

Maddragon99

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Doing Dufty favours, now you're just taking the p*ss. Really, the Staggs try where he brushed off Aitken like a used, half deflated sex doll and rampaged down field with the ball in two hands and dummies to 2 or 3 players in the clear in support. Who stops the try in that situation ?

Running around, looking flash, making line breaks, scoring tries and setting them up what a useless, useless b*st*rd. He should retire immediately in shame.
Do you have any thoughts on Slippery Morris ? Just wondering. Gasnier ? Those white boots, I bet that gnaws at ya.
Mate you are delusional living in Lala Land. All his attacking stats are mediocre compared to other top 8 fullbacks. I’ve comprehensively listed all of them on here once before not doing it again.

But I will say this;

Due to Dufty’s pathetic kick returns he ranked 34th in average run meters. There simply isn’t an argument to justify that! We need a bigger body running the ball back with purpose to get our sets off on a positive. Dufty is a coward constantly volunteering in tackles. Posters on here constantly rubbish our forwards for not dominating but it’s impossible to dominate when you are constantly turning around running 30-40 meters & hitting the ball up from inside our own 20!

1) Tedesco
2) RTS
4) Dylan Edwards
5) Papenhuzen
6) Gutherson
8) Ponga
11) Nicol-Klokstad
19) Jordan Pereia
22) Brimson
28) Adam Douihi
30) Will Hopoate
33) Paul Vaughan
34) Dufty
35) Euan Aitken
48) Mikaele Ravalawa


How are we supposed to win & dominate footy games with stats like that? Not doing Hunt any favours either.

Better get your Kleenex ready for when he’s dropped & not resigned for 2022. Not my personal opinion just analytics.
 

Maddragon99

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But his error rate isn’t just about catching (or not catching) bombs..

Lomax also topped our team for allowing the opposition to break our defensive line.. In comparison that is more than twice what Aitken did..

And he missed nearly twice as many tackles as Aitken too..

Oh, and he was also the reason for twice as many tries being let in as Aitken was..

Doesn’t mean he’s a bad player, he just has a lot of things to work on, which is expected from young players..

But it also highlights how not-bad Aitken was.. (And despite not playing every game, Euan had the most running metres of all our backs)

Needless to say it shows what impact perception has on how we believe players perform..


And I still say we need to watch out for Aitken when we play the warriors..
Needless to say it shows what impact perception has on how we believe players perform..

Not for me buddy I’m all about the stats. My post stated he had a great year & was rewarded with origin call up despite his high errors. Also stated it’s a positive because if that’s tidied up he’ll be an even better player.

It’s also a fact he does compete for more than his own share of attacking kicks so it’s inevitable he’ll pick up errors as a result.
 
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