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Matt Hilder hits his stride

Pumba

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Matt Hilder hits his stride
BY BRETT KEEBLE

UNASSUMING Newcastle utility forward Matt Hilder is making more tackles per minute than any other player in the NRL this season.

The 26-year-old back-rower's 314 tackles from eight matches has him ranked sixth behind Dallas Johnson (390), Cameron Smith (342), David Stagg (333), Nathan Friend (328) and Micheal Luck (325).

But Hilder, who came off the bench in Newcastle's first three games but has started at lock in their past five, is averaging less than 62 minutes a game. The five men above him are averaging 71.9 minutes (Johnson), 81.8 (Smith), 79.4 (Stagg), 80 (Friend) and 79 (Luck).

Hilder's roving role is similar to that played by Robbie McCormack, Paul Marquet and Bill Peden in Newcastle teams of previous eras.

And, just as those men did, Hilder hurts when he hits and seems to have little regard for his wiry 184-centimetre, 94-kilogram frame.

"I think it just comes down to more minutes. I'm playing more time so I'm just getting more tackles up," Hilder said.

In his second season in Newcastle after stints at the Titans and Sharks, the tradesmanlike toiler wants to extend his stay and the Knights feel the same way.

"Matty's a priority for us to retain. If anything, he's gone up on what he did last year and we were rapt in his performances last season," coach Brian Smith said.

"He's actually finding a little bit of ball play. He's throwing a few more passes for us this year and bringing his forwards on to the ball.

"He's lost none of his high standard of defence either and that's putting it mildly.

"His ethic, his toughness I really think he typifies what everyone at Newcastle likes about footballers."

The Knights are yet to make an offer but Hilder's manager, Wayne Beavis, will be in Newcastle next week to kick off formal negotiations.

"We're talking but we need to see the colour of their money, simple as that," Beavis said.

"There's no offer there yet but they're keen to keep him and they're talking positive, so we'll see what comes out of it next week."

Hilder said he was happy for his wife, Natalie, and Beavis to take care of his contractual negotiations so he could stay focused on his on-field commitments.

"Smithy's indicated to me that they're keen to keep me on board and I'm keen to stay, so I'm sure we'll come to some agreement there," Hilder said.

"The role I'm playing on the field, that suits what I do best so the last thing I want to do is go to another team and they have me playing somewhere I don't really want to play, so I'm pretty happy that's where he wants me to play.

"No one wants it to drag on forever. With the salary cap, and there's a few boys off contract, the way it works means the more people they sign, the less money there is for you, but I'm a firm believer in thinking that things will work out for themselves.

"I don't really worry too much about all that. I leave that up to my wife."

In the absence of seasoned NSW and Australian second-rower Steve Simpson for much of the season, Hilder has teamed with Chris Houston and Zeb Taia to dominate some higher-profile back-row combinations this season.

The next trio in their sights are Gold Coast's Ashley Harrison, Mark Minichiello and Anthony Laffranchi at EnergyAustralia Stadium on Sunday.

Unlike Hilder, Houston and Taia, all three have played representative football, but the Knights are yet to be rattled by reputations.

"We're working pretty hard together, working hard at training, and the coaches have got it pretty right about what we need to do to win games," Hilder said.

"We're doing that at training and doing it in games and it seems to be working pretty well.

"It's giving us confidence. Just the feeling we had in the game against Brisbane last week we never really felt like we were going to get beaten.

"That feeling can only come with believing in what you're doing then actually doing it on the field.

"That's the big step forward for us."

Herald
 
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Joker's Wild

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I have no doubt that if it wasnt for Waltzing we would have conceeded a tonne more points this season.

Is he still off contract for 2010? If he is we need to lock him up yesterday
 
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While Matt wouldnt be on chicken feed he wont command anything above $120 or $150k at the most.

No rush sign up the other lads first then come back to him cant imagine any competition for him.
 

sneaky_is_here

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While Matt wouldnt be on chicken feed he wont command anything above $120 or $150k at the most.

No rush sign up the other lads first then come back to him cant imagine any competition for him.

You'd be suprised how many teams want a matt hilder. Even if its ESL.
 

doggone

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Good value is not the word. He is one hell of a player i have always rated him. I should imagine he would be worth more than that, as the Titans let him go due to salary cap.!

Anyhow you've got a winner there. Good luck this week
 

Yosh

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He is a great defender I must admit, however overall an average player. It is a pity that he'll most likely be remembered not for his playing ability but that massive MASSIVE hit he took couple of weeks ago.
 

sneaky_is_here

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Not being a smartarse is that an oppinion or do you have some source?

Opinion. A Matt Hilder, as in someone with alot of heart.

and Yosh your problem is you only favor the superstars the people who you can clearly see do something special every game hence aku been in your sig.

Believe it or not players like hilder and even from the past Billy Peden who wont give up trying to make a tackle if they were getting flogged 60-0 are a huge part of the teams success.
 
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No rush sign up the other lads first then come back to him cant imagine any competition for him.

Want to bet your house on that one? I wouldn't! I am also pretty certain Zeb and Houston will be very much in demand in 18 months time. House breaks the line now and bends it almost on every hitup. He has all the skills to be a top line rep player and he is barely 24. Zeb is the same.
 
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Hanscholo

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Yep, sign him up by all means. Hilder will play in a GF winning side one day, I just have this feeling about the bloke, he is the kind of player like peden you can build a forward pack around.
 

Peppers

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The general downfall of our teams over the past few years has been defence. We have been soft up the middle. Blokes like Tanner falling off tackles in the middle of the ruck. Ever since Matt Hilder got here the whole ruck looks tighter. He is busy, plays good minutes and tackles everything that moves. Even if we had 100% Paterson and Simpson we need to find space for Hilder to start. The backrow of Houston, Taia and Hilder has been awesome this season.
 

knights_86

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must sign him up right away... he's been outstanding for us in the middle. as peppers said, our ruck looks 100 times better when he's in there. his D has always been outstanding and his attack is coming along nicely. he's starting to make good metres which is fantastic given his workload in D.. considering he used to play a fair bit of 5/8 that's not too surprising though. when fit we must always make room for him to either start at 13 or on the bench. this poses the question... who will miss out if all of our forwards are fit? hilder, patto, simo, taia, house, tolar, cross, faas, wicks, taufua, ciraldo. This 11 must go into 7. Given our luck with injuries this might not ever happen though!
 

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must sign him up right away... he's been outstanding for us in the middle. as peppers said, our ruck looks 100 times better when he's in there. his D has always been outstanding and his attack is coming along nicely. he's starting to make good metres which is fantastic given his workload in D.. considering he used to play a fair bit of 5/8 that's not too surprising though. when fit we must always make room for him to either start at 13 or on the bench. this poses the question... who will miss out if all of our forwards are fit? hilder, patto, simo, taia, house, tolar, cross, faas, wicks, taufua, ciraldo. This 11 must go into 7. Given our luck with injuries this might not ever happen though!
Tolar
DeGois
Cross
Simpson
Houston/Taia
Hilder

Taia/Houston
Paterson
Fa'aoso
Wicks

Best forward pack in the comp imo. May be a little bit of bias there :)
 

Pika

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Might be time to turn Simmo into a prop to make rook for the Taia, House, Hilder back row.
 
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Want to bet your house on that one? I wouldn't! I am also pretty certain Zeb and Houston will be very much in demand in 18 months time. House breaks the line now and bends it almost on every hitup. He has all the skills to be a top line rep player and he is barely 24. Zeb is the same.

I was talking about Hilder, not Zeb(Who I honestly dont think will have many offers either) or Houston who if he developes as well as he has been this year will probably get plenty of offers.

Every team has their Hilders that the club loves but rarely any other fans acknowledge how good they are.

I am not bagging Hilder I sincerely rate him and think he has to be in the 17 every week, but the reason his had so many clubs is because he aint no superstar.
 

Matt23

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I was talking about Hilder, not Zeb(Who I honestly dont think will have many offers either) or Houston who if he developes as well as he has been this year will probably get plenty of offers.

Every team has their Hilders that the club loves but rarely any other fans acknowledge how good they are.

I am not bagging Hilder I sincerely rate him and think he has to be in the 17 every week, but the reason his had so many clubs is because he aint no superstar.
Um he's been to a whole 3 clubs :?
 

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