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Matthew Johns v O'Loughlin/Burgoyne alleged incidents - 4 Corners' reports

Brutus

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http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2004/s1100551.htm

The accusations directed at AFL players Peter Burgoyne, Michael O'Loughlin and Adam Heuskas in this 4 Corners report back 2004 were far worse than what has been leveled at Matthew Johns.

Yet as we can see here the girl was under a confidentiality agreement not to speak about the incident.

Scroll down further and you can see the amazing buck passing between AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou and the Port Adelaide Football club.

Talk about a CODE OF SILENCE!


MARK BRAYSHAW, FORMER MARKETING MANAGER, PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB: Adam Heuskes was a player at Port, so was Peter. Then Adam left the club and so I'm sure they were pretty thick friends during and after the period that they played together.
TICKY FULLERTON: The night in question, Heuskes and Burgoyne caught up with a third player, Sydney Swan Michael O'Loughlin, here at the Heaven nightclub. About 10:30 that evening, a woman we'll name 'Jane' arrived at the nightclub with friends.
JANE'S COUSIN: She's very quiet. She's an introvert, certainly not out-there, um, not one of the groupies that, you know, people would see hanging off the footballers.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane has signed a confidentiality agreement, which gags her from talking about the night. However, Four Corners has obtained a taped interview, made in the presence of her lawyer in 2001 before the confidentiality agreement was signed. Again to protect her identity, we have revoiced her interview, word for word.
That night, the 20-year-old had had far too much to drink - eight or nine beers. At around midnight, she was introduced to Adam Heuskes.
TICKY FULLERTON: According to Jane, in an isolated spot, the two followers, Adam Heuskes and Michael O'Loughlin, caught up. She says her clothes were ripped off, her bag thrown away. She was forced to the ground, tossed around like a rag doll and raped.
MAN: Were you raped?
JANE: Yes.
TICKY FULLERTON: On the same tape, Jane's lawyer describes all three players being involved in sexual abuse.
MAN: You were absolutely positive it was Adam Heuskes, Peter Burgoyne and Michael O'Loughlin?
JANE: Yeah.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane says she was raped by Adam Heuskes and Peter Burgoyne and that at one point, Heuskes and Michael O'Loughlin were masturbating close to her face.
JANE: I came to, then - and they did that - then blacked out again.
MAN: The three of them did that?
JANE: Um, I think it was just Heuskes and O'Loughlin - it was dark, yep - while Peter was doing other things.
TICKY FULLERTON: About 2:30am, Jane says she woke up, half-naked, dishevelled and alone in the park. Four Corners has been told Jane says she was a virgin before that night.
Friends who missed Jane at the nightclub were shocked when they found her. They took her straight to the police. Two of the footballers, Adam Heuskes and Peter Burgoyne, were charged. Yet six weeks later, charges were dropped. The Director of Public Prosecutions, Paul Rofe, stated there was "no reasonable prospect of conviction on any criminal charge". He has reiterated that to Four Corners.
What was your reaction when the case was dropped?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely disgusted. Um...
TICKY FULLERTON: So the police thought they had a strong case?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely. Very strong case, yes.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane's two cousins refused to accept the decision. They went to see Paul Rofe in person.
JANE'S COUSIN: I strongly remember Paul Rofe saying that he believes 100% that she was raped.
TICKY FULLERTON: HE believed she was raped?
JANE'S COUSIN: He believed she was raped. The rape was premeditated for the other two boys to be following, um...but legally he couldn't take it any further because it boiled down to a case of what he said, she said, so there were no witnesses to the rape.
TICKY FULLERTON: So the footballers' words against your cousin's?
JANE'S COUSIN: Absolutely. So the footballers walk away... even after the police trying to fight to keep the case alive.
JANE'S COUSIN 2: To be told face-to-face by the DPP at the time that it was without doubt in his mind that it had happened was devastating.
TICKY FULLERTON: Jane's cousins have also expressed their concern about the DPP's close football connections. He was on the board of the Adelaide Crows at the time.
JANE'S COUSIN 1: I think his ties within the AFL were far stronger than what they should be for someone making a decision against AFL players. You've got a victim that had been hurt by three people, not one person, um...and yet it still wasn't allowed to be heard by a jury.
TICKY FULLERTON: Paul Rofe told Four Corners he considered his conversations with the victim and her family confidential, and that at the time he had determined he did not have a conflict of interest.
Peter Burgoyne is still playing for Port Adelaide. The club fined him a reported $5,000, but would not answer questions on this, referring Four Corners to the AFL.
ANDREW DEMETRIOU, AFL CHIEF EXECUTIVE: You'd have to direct those questions to the Port Adelaide Football club.
TICKY FULLERTON: They've directed us to you.
ANDREW DEMETRIOU: Yeah, but again you've mentioned a word there which is ALLEGED assault. Why Port Adelaide chose to fine Peter Burgoyne for being out at night and being in an inappropriate place is a matter between Port Adelaide and the player. Again, I'm not privy to why they fine them, other than I know there was a $5,000 fine.
TICKY FULLERTON: Could it have been because he was associating with Adam Heuskes?
ANDREW DEMETRIOU: I don't know. Again, I'm not privy to that information.
 
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That's the difference betwen the two codes. They close ranks around them until it goes away, we hang them out to dry.....

Which is the morally superior code I wonder?

And why hasn't any so called Rugby League supporting journo picked these up and shoved it back into the face of these arrogant Mexican pricks.

Here's more on that one, it's where "hush money" got a run...

http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/commo...//www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1069962.htm

PM - Friday, 19 March , 2004 18:34:00

Reporter: Rachel Carbonell

MARK COLVIN: In the Aussie Rules sex scandal, just days after rape allegations against two St Kilda players, new claims emerged that a woman was paid to keep quiet over an allegation of sexual assault in Adelaide several years ago. The clubs on the defensive are Port Adelaide and the Sydney Swans, and both deny making any payment.

Rachel Carbonell reports.

RACHEL CARBONELL: Port Adelaide's Peter Burgoyne and former Brisbane and Port Adelaide defender, Adam Heuskes, were charged with rape in August 2000 but the charges were dropped several weeks later.

An anonymous woman claims she was sexually assaulted by the pair, and by another unnamed player from the Sydney Swans. She claims she was paid $200,000 to keep quiet, but there's no suggestion the payment was an admission of guilt.

The coaches of the clubs linked to the latest scandal were all attending a meeting in Melbourne today and were forced to front the media to address the claims.

Swans coach Paul Roos says the player involved at his club was never interviewed by police, let alone charged and no money was paid.

PAUL ROOS: Well, I mean, if a player hasn't done anything… interviewed by police, hasn't been linked to a crime, I guess it's very hard to comment. That's all I really know at the moment, so at this stage we don't believe anything's been… anything wrong has been done.

RACHEL CARBONELL: Brisbane Lions coach, Leigh Matthews, says the allegations have nothing to do with his club.

LEIGH MATTHEWS: Adam Heuskes played for Brisbane, no, well, you know, the facts are facts. If someone's played for you and their name gets mentioned, it's one of the things that we know in the football world is that the first thing that gets mentioned about an individual is his football clubs or former football clubs. But you live with it, there's nothing you can do about it.

REPORTER: Was money paid as a settlement?

LEIGH MATTHEWS: No idea. No idea.

REPORTER: Was that something you had to deal with at the time with Adam, obviously?

LEIGH MATTHEWS: I'm pretty sure that what's being spoken of was after he left us. He did play with us, but I'm pretty sure… I only know what I read in the paper, it certainly was not anything that we were aware of. If we paid any money we'd be aware of it, I can guarantee you that.

RACHEL CARBONELL: The Port Adelaide club's administration called a press conference at its headquarters this afternoon, where CEO Brian Cunningham defended the team's talented forward Peter Burgoyne, but refused to name him because of a confidentiality agreement.

BRIAN CUNNINGHAM: It's important to realise at this point that the player… this issue was out in the public arena in the year 2000. he was investigated by the police, he was reviewed by the DPP, there were no criminal charges laid, therefore the player is innocent, therefore we don't name the player, and we did review it and we did take action against the player at the time. We took action on the basis that the player put himself in a position of risk.

REPORTER: What was that action?

BRIAN CUNNINGHAM: We fined the player and we counselled the player, and of course as we would normally do in the football club, take the player, and all of our players through extensive programs in terms of sexual harassment, racial vilification etc.

Those programs are supplied through the AFL, through the players association and equally, through our own club. So those programs have been put in place consistently for many years and continue to be put in place.

RACHEL CARBONELL: The club's President, Greg Boulton, also reiterated that the club paid no one for their silence.

GREG BOULTON: The club advised the Port Adelaide player to obtain a lawyer, which he did. The club attended meetings between the lawyer and player as an observer. The club did not pay or compensate in any way, any party in connection with the matter, nor did it provide or pay for the player's legal assistance.

RACHEL CARBONELL: The South Australian Director of Public Prosecutions, Paul Rofe, put out a statement today saying the first he heard of any money being given to the woman was today.

He says the woman indicated when she found out there would be no prosecution that she would attempt civil action, and thus if money had been paid it was after criminal proceedings and not an offence.

However, in his statement he went on to say that he stood by his comments at the time which were that the AFL and clubs need to look at the players' code of conduct as it relates to off field behaviour, and while he was not able to proceed with a criminal prosecution, it appeared the woman was not treated with appropriate respect.

Earlier this week AFL chief Andrew Demetriou invited women who had been abused by AFL footballers to come forward, and indicated he would be happy if they wanted to take their complaint directly to the league.

This invitation, and the growing claims that football cover ups are common place must have all clubs in the league worried about what surprises might be waiting in the new season.

MARK COLVIN: Rachel Carbonell.
 

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I concur EA. Why the f**k aren't some of these 'diehard' RL journos taking the AFL to town on this?
 

Brutus

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4 Corners is not the problem - they've done stories on both the AFL and NRL. It's the direction the general media take things after the info has been put out there that bothers me. Sexual scandal stories are allowed to die quickly in the AFL and if a club or Demetriou offer a simple "no comment" then the media simply move on. In RL that doesn't happen. Even when clubs are trying to be transparent they are hammered.

Unfortunately I don't think there are as many truly passionate RL journos around anymore. Most of them are just journos without any real link with the game who are just doing a job because RL reporting is how they will get work.
 
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I concur EA. Why the f**k aren't some of these 'diehard' RL journos taking the AFL to town on this?

Because they're gutless f**ks. Spineless, gutless, useless hacks who should hand in their keyboards and piss off to retirement.

Where is Gus?

Where is Roy Masters?

Where are the other so-called Rugby League journos who should be giving it back to these sh*tbags who are rubbing our nose in it whilst hiding anything and everything in AFL's closet?

You gutless f**king cowards.

Chippy Frilingos would have been all over this.
 

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Well judging from some posters comments here the police investigated and didn't press charges and that makes the AFL guys as innocent as the Sharks or Bulldogs players.

What AFL do reflects on them. If as you seem to be pointing out there is an agreement for the girl not to talk them she must have been ok with signing it. If you read the last bit of your quote it says that any money paid was after the criminal investigation had been completed and was not an offence.

A confidentiality agreement is not confined to just AFL, many businesses and organisations use them. There is nothing sinister about them and I am sure over the years even, shock horror, NRL clubs have used them to shield their stars from public scrutiny. Plus if league is so open why is Matt Johns copping all the heat for this ? Why not name the rest of the players and officials involved ?

I get the point you are trying to make, that AFL in your opinion get an easy ride from the media. That may be true but I don't give a sh*t if the AFL is made up of rapists and murderers. I follow NRL and how our players behave is what concerns me.
 

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Well judging from some posters comments here the police investigated and didn't press charges and that makes the AFL guys as innocent as the Sharks or Bulldogs players.

Confidentiality agreements/hush money was exposed in that AFL article.

Did you read about the links the police had with the AFL and what they originally thought when the girl first presented herself to them?
 

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Confidentiality agreements/hush money was exposed in that AFL article.

Did you read about the links the police had with the AFL and what they originally thought when the girl first presented herself to them?

Well the police didn't charge them so they must be innocent. That is the logic in the Sharks and Bulldogs thing so why not apply it here ?

The confidentiality agreement happend after the police said they couldn't proceed with the case as shown by the quote at the end of your post where the police offer involved indicates that that is what the lady told him. If you have evidence to that that isn't the case then present it.

As for police conspiricies, I take it you have evidence of that too ?

In the end pointing out that the AFL have idiots playing for them too does what to solve the issues regarding women in our game ?
 
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Well the police didn't charge them so they must be innocent. That is the logic in the Sharks and Bulldogs thing so why not apply it here ?

The confidentiality agreement happend after the police said they couldn't proceed with the case as shown by the quote at the end of your post where the police offer involved indicates that that is what the lady told him. If you have evidence to that that isn't the case then present it.

As for police conspiricies, I take it you have evidence of that too ?

In the end pointing out that the AFL have idiots playing for them too does what to solve the issues regarding women in our game ?

Can we leave all the moral/detective bullsh*t to the other 100 threads already dealing with it?

The point of the thread is to point out the glaring inconsistencies in the media when it comes to reporting this type of incident.

Ask yourself, with the incident in Brutus' initial post, was that the first you'd heard about it?

Just a yes or a no will suffice.
 

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I'm sure this sort of thing happens in a lot of sports.
More off topic than on, but I actually read an article done by an ex athlete about sex and how much went on at the Olympics...

Anyway, you're right the AFL are just rediculously good at downplaying and also have the contacts and money potential.
But I'm glad that League doesn't have those potentials because the actual issues at hand will begin to be dealt with far more.
 

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Ask yourself, with the incident in Brutus' initial post, was that the first you'd heard about it?

Just a yes or a no will suffice.

Great point EA.

I heard a caller refer to the alleged Adelaide Parklands AFL incident on 2SM yesterday and the entire panel had no idea what he was talking about.

That's the difference.
 
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I'm sure this sort of thing happens in a lot of sports.
More off topic than on, but I actually read an article done by an ex athlete about sex and how much went on at the Olympics...

Anyway, you're right the AFL are just rediculously good at downplaying and also have the contacts and money potential.
But I'm glad that League doesn't have those potentials because the actual issues at hand will begin to be dealt with far more.

Well, they are being dealt with, right now.

The NRL act, the AFL hide.

There are two players curently playing AFL who have been charged with assaulting their girlfriends. One for glassing her. Where is Greg Bird now?

Matt Johns is crucified by all and sundry, yet Sam Newman is still working, on the exact same station as Johns was sacked from.

The list goes on and on. We do something, they hide it, yet they apparently have the moral high ground?
 

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Well, they are being dealt with, right now.

The NRL act, the AFL hide.

There are two players curently playing AFL who have been charged with assaulting their girlfriends. One for glassing her. Where is Greg Bird now?

Matt Johns is crucified by all and sundry, yet Sam Newman is still working, on the exact same station as Johns was sacked from.

The list goes on and on. We do something, they hide it, yet they apparently have the moral high ground?


To be fair the albert proud thing was fairly prominent in yesterdays paper here on the gold coast. If the AFL let players who assault their girlfriends play then that reflects badly on them, you have no argument from me there.

Once again Sam Newman is a dick and I think you will find many in the media did write articles about his behavior re the Caroline Wilson thing and all of the other sh*t he has pulled. How he keeps his job is beyond me but that is a matter for Nine and so far they are happy to keep him.

Now Newman hasn't been publically linked with group sex, there is no woman saying she is sucidal due to newman so this is hardly the same thing as M Johns. If the AFL hide things then they deserve to be brought into the light but to go on some sort of tit for tat spree of each sport pointing out how bad the other is is childish. How would that help things ? Would it stop things like the Dane Tilse incident happening ? Or the Sharks or Bulldogs things ?
 
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To be fair the albert proud thing was fairly prominent in yesterdays paper here on the gold coast. If the AFL let players who assault their girlfriends play then that reflects badly on them, you have no argument from me there.

errr,

Do you remember the Greg Bird incident?

Every AFL fan on the planet knows about that.

Do you think that there are 5% of Rugby League fans in Sydney that have even heard of Albert Proud?

Once again Sam Newman is a dick and I think you will find many in the media did write articles about his behavior re the Caroline Wilson thing and all of the other sh*t he has pulled. How he keeps his job is beyond me but that is a matter for Nine and so far they are happy to keep him.

Again, neither has broken the law, Newman is a vile slimy piece of rectal refuse, but he's a mate of Eddie's so, he stays and Matty gets the arse..

Now Newman hasn't been publically linked with group sex, there is no woman saying she is sucidal due to newman so this is hardly the same thing as M Johns.

You moralistic prat. You weren't in the room so don't come the raw prawn. There are a few pople who know what happened, and you aren't one of them.

Group sex is not illegal.

The only people Matt Johns should have had to answer to are the members of his family.

If the AFL hide things then they deserve to be brought into the light but to go on some sort of tit for tat spree of each sport pointing out how bad the other is is childish. How would that help things ? Would it stop things like the Dane Tilse incident happening ? Or the Sharks or Bulldogs things ?

More moralising.

Just piss off then, there is a war about to start and I'd rather people like you were on their side.

They won't stop until Sydney and Brisbane are AFL cities.
 

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R. Wilson stated on Channel 7 Sunrise that "group sex" was a Rugby League "thing" and also claims to be a Rugby League journalist.
 
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R. Wilson stated on Channel 7 Sunrise that "group sex" was a Rugby League "thing" and also claims to be a Rugby League journalist.

That cow also had the hide to take a player to task for getting pissed whilst having 2 DUI's under her belt.

She's only a Rugby League journo to herself. She's a hack to everyone else.
 

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It seems every AFL fan knows the name of rugby league players who get busted for stuff.

The same doesn't happen in reverse.

Why?

The general media likes it that way.

When O'Loughlin plays his last game for the Swans it will be a media love-fest with the man. There will be no mention of the alleged incident in an Adelaide Parkland, highlighted by 4 Corners in 2004.
 

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