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Matthew Lodge Arrested in New York

Vee

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Not sure I'm following you, mate.

I just made a comment that I'd have no use for an apology so wouldn't bother seeking one out. But $1.6M would be something I'd bother chasing.

I doubt Lodge will read it and you've cared enough to respond lol what is your point?
You're after money not justice, so I lost interest in your opinion.
 

lynx000

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So what? Gotta play by the country's rules. Dont go on a rampage where there are punitive damages. Dont import drugs where they can swing you by the neck.

Fyi The payouts to the couple were under a mill taking into account exchange rate and the third victim.

The damages award in my view is not something that can be relied upon with any accuracy as to what occurred. Tort damages awards in the USA are notoriously and regularly excessive at first instance and quite regularly reduced on appeal. Add into that this was a default judgment situation where there was no one challenging the evidence or the plaintiff lawyer's submissions about the appropriate compensation and voila, you have the current scenario.
 

RazorRam0n

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Once again, the body governing the operation of the game with full knowledge of the facts has agreed to register his contract.

Are you, or did you run the same campaign in relation to Russell Packer, Greg Bird, Danny Wicks (particularly when he was signed by your club), Kirisome Auva or the many other saints who have been allowed back in? If so, can you provide the evidence of this? If not, you are a hypocrite and it seems your real problem is the club he has signed with.

That's what you wish it was...yeah the old siege mentality defence.

Hes a blue I have no reason to prejudice him other than being a grub not adequately punished
 

lynx000

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That's what you wish it was...yeah the old siege mentality defence.

Hes a blue I have no reason to prejudice him other than being a grub not adequately punished
You did not answer the question posed. Have you run similar campaigns in respect of the other players I identified? It is a fairly simple question, either you did, or you did not?
 

RazorRam0n

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You did not answer the question posed. Have you run similar campaigns in respect of the other players I identified? It is a fairly simple question, either you did, or you did not?

What campaigns? All recent reregistrations have undertaken reasonable punishment

Lodge hasn't can't be any more consistent about it
 

AJB1102

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You're after money not justice, so I lost interest in your opinion.

What difference would it make to me if my attacker got jail time or was really sorry? Put a dollar sign on it or stop wasting my time.
 

Delboy

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Consider this
The football manager has resigned and won't answer question
The CCTV Picture isn't of sufficient quality
The woman concerned has decided not to proceed
The player turns down 4 times the salary elsewhere and signs for a pie and a coke ( no pun intended)at the Broncos, not a question mark from Toddy

However, the complainants in the USA continue to describe the assault, and thnen Uncle Wayne makes the statement, he's a good footy player and ignores the rest

By the way, all the players you mention at other clubs, even Packer, have done time, worked in the community and continue to lecture to young players on the problems that they need to overcome and acknowledge their past indiscretions. Hello, no sign of remorse from said Bronco player. That's where the criticism comes from, but it's the Broncos , please don't criticise as we will get upset.
 

lynx000

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What campaigns? All recent reregistrations have undertaken reasonable punishment

Lodge hasn't can't be any more consistent about it

Did Auvu? But we come back to the same fact that your fundamental problem is with the operation of the criminal justice system in New York and your ill-informed and irrational view that he has not been sufficiently punished. I think I will place greater faith in the judgement and legal experience of the DA's office and the sentencing judge as to what was appropriate punishment for the conduct of Lodge rather than a numpty called Razor with no legal qualifications.
 

Canard

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Did Auvu? But we come back to the same fact that your fundamental problem is with the operation of the criminal justice system in New York and your ill-informed and irrational view that he has not been sufficiently punished. I think I will place greater faith in the judgement and legal experience of the DA's office and the sentencing judge as to what was appropriate punishment for the conduct of Lodge rather than a numpty called Razor with no legal qualifications.

Lodge got off lightly, let's not bullshit here
 

myrrh ken

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The damages award in my view is not something that can be relied upon with any accuracy as to what occurred. Tort damages awards in the USA are notoriously and regularly excessive at first instance and quite regularly reduced on appeal. Add into that this was a default judgment situation where there was no one challenging the evidence or the plaintiff lawyer's submissions about the appropriate compensation and voila, you have the current scenario.

What do you think is a fair amount that he would have run away from paying?
 

lynx000

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Consider this
The football manager has resigned and won't answer question
The CCTV Picture isn't of sufficient quality
The woman concerned has decided not to proceed
The player turns down 4 times the salary elsewhere and signs for a pie and a coke ( no pun intended)at the Broncos, not a question mark from Toddy

However, the complainants in the USA continue to describe the assault, and thnen Uncle Wayne makes the statement, he's a good footy player and ignores the rest

By the way, all the players you mention at other clubs, even Packer, have done time, worked in the community and continue to lecture to young players on the problems that they need to overcome and acknowledge their past indiscretions. Hello, no sign of remorse from said Bronco player. That's where the criticism comes from, but it's the Broncos , please don't criticise as we will get upset.

Thanks for your reply which peddles the same ill-informed media driven drivel that others have posted earlier.

What time did Greg Bird serve?

What time did Kirsome Auva serve (not even a conviction recorded).

So there is now evidence that Lodge has not touched alcohol since the incident and has complied with requirements to provide regular urine samples to substantiate that he is not touching alcohol. He has voluntarily participated in education sessions with young people telling them of his story and his mistakes. He has written a letter to the DA's office apologizing for his conduct and apologizing in no uncertain terms to the victims and specifically asked for this to be provided to the victims. Either the D.A. has not passed on the letter or the victims and their lawyers are gilding the lily about not receiving an apology and him not showing remorse? Or does that not constitute showing remorse to you?

It is hard to avoid forming the opinion that this is money driven by the lawyer of the victims because he knows there is virtually no chance that the judgment can be enforced in Australia. I still really wonder whether we would be hearing and seeing what appears to be an organised media campaign had Lodge signed with Newcastle.
 

RazorRam0n

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Did Auvu? But we come back to the same fact that your fundamental problem is with the operation of the criminal justice system in New York and your ill-informed and irrational view that he has not been sufficiently punished. I think I will place greater faith in the judgement and legal experience of the DA's office and the sentencing judge as to what was appropriate punishment for the conduct of Lodge rather than a numpty called Razor with no legal qualifications.

He was sentenced for 2 years you muppet, he got away with it for being a foreigner
 

lynx000

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Lodge got off lightly, let's not bullshit here

Well, if your definition of lightly is two weeks in prison, community service, being stopped from pursuing your career with a consequential loss of earnings for two years (and am I wrong to assess that at between $300,000 to $600,000?), legal bills of around $100,000.00 and a damages award against him of $1.6M AUD, then yes he got off lightly.

He did a stupid and reprehensible thing which has shamed him and his family. But when is enough punishment enough for some of you? He has complied with all requirements of the legal system in which he committed the crime. If that is not good enough for you keyboard warriors, take up the issue with the appropriate authorities in New York. He cannot incarcerate himself.
 

Canard

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Well, if your definition of lightly is two weeks in prison, community service, being stopped from pursuing your career with a consequential loss of earnings for two years (and am I wrong to assess that at between $300,000 to $600,000?), legal bills of around $100,000.00 and a damages award against him of $1.6M AUD, then yes he got off lightly.

He did a stupid and reprehensible thing which has shamed him and his family. But when is enough punishment enough for some of you? He has complied with all requirements of the legal system in which he committed the crime. If that is not good enough for you keyboard warriors, take up the issue with the appropriate authorities in New York. He cannot incarcerate himself.

Two weeks in jail, is extremely light.
 

lynx000

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He was sentenced for 2 years you muppet, he got away with it for being a foreigner

He was never sentenced to two years you maggot. I am sure that you will be able to provide the evidence to prove your claim and establish that you aren't simply sprouting crap on the internet.

A plea agreement was reached with the DA's office, that had he not complied with the terms of it, he was liable to one year's imprisonment. Fairly much the same as the suspended sentences that are imposed by the Courts in Australia. He then duly complied with the requirements of the plea agreement. It has nothing to do with him being a foreigner in my view. This type of plea arrangement regularly occurs in the USA.

But if you can provide evidence to support your allegation, I will happily apologize to you.
 

lynx000

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Two weeks in jail, is extremely light.

Once again, excuse me if I place greater reliance on the DA's office and the sentencing judge's view as to what constitutes appropriate punishment over some league fan from another club on the internet.

Had the same incident occurred over here, he would have in all likelihood walked away with a non-custodial sentence.
 
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