McCracken having a crack...

[sheet_ed]

This is a case brought forward by a lawyer who will get 45% of what McCracken is seeking. Why is he suing the Storm - because both players are non-residents living in England and can protect their assets.

If this case is successful then let us go through the every injury to every player through the season, example the tackle on Joey Johns that screwed him for the past 2 seasons will eventually come back a haunt the perpetrators. And so it will go on and on and on.

What happens on the field - now ends in the courtroom.

The spear tackle is NOT a tackle that I believe anyone would deliberately inflict on another player - and knowing Kearney and Bai - it was not a deliberate act - it is a accident caused by the style of play which occurred 2 years ago by a small minority of forwards (both offensively and defensively). This style of play has been coached out of the game.

Do I feel sorry for McCracken - yes I do.
Did he have insurance for this - under the player contracts and the NRL - yes he did.
Did he have income protection insurance while playing the toughest game in the world - :roll:
Does he have a ambulance chasing lawyer - you figure it out.
Am I sympathetic - no

You play with the big boys you are going to get hurt.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

This could be good for my club cronulla.
We could get all of the ex shark players who had their careers ended by some of the most appauling things ever witnessed on a football field, together & costruct a civil suit agianst the most criminal club to ever pareticipatin our great code.
This one "club" ended the careers of at least 3 of our players.
All with massive head injuries.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Great, the journalist doesn't even bother to state that the two players are no longer with the club :roll:

Kylie Williams[/url]]McCracken says the tackle was "intentional" and "done with intent to cause injury"

That is something his lawyer wouldn't be able to prove. The only intention is to stop him from advancing, unfortunately the tackle went bad.

 

[hrundi99]

Im a tigers fan, but smell me crackin has got this all worng. It was just one of those things, like a car accident or plane crash. Sh*t happens. Jarrod you can walk and do everything normally, get over it!

Mate, car accidents and plane crashes don't just happen. They happen because of poor maintenance, poor planning or poor execution, or all three.

As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as a car "accident".

 

[hrundi99]

This is a case brought forward by a lawyer who will get 45% of what McCracken is seeking. Why is he suing the Storm - because both players are non-residents living in England and can protect their assets.

If this case is successful then let us go through the every injury to every player through the season, example the tackle on Joey Johns that screwed him for the past 2 seasons will eventually come back a haunt the perpetrators. And so it will go on and on and on.

What happens on the field - now ends in the courtroom.

The spear tackle is NOT a tackle that I believe anyone would deliberately inflict on another player - and knowing Kearney and Bai - it was not a deliberate act - it is a accident caused by the style of play which occurred 2 years ago by a small minority of forwards (both offensively and defensively). This style of play has been coached out of the game.

Do I feel sorry for McCracken - yes I do.
Did he have insurance for this - under the player contracts and the NRL - yes he did.
Did he have income protection insurance while playing the toughest game in the world - :roll:
Does he have a ambulance chasing lawyer - you figure it out.
Am I sympathetic - no

You play with the big boys you are going to get hurt.

I totally agree.

 

[Razor]

like a car accident or plane crash. Sh*t happens.

If you get injured in a car accident or plane crash you get money. So if you're comparing his tackle to a car accident, you say he should get money.

 

[Razor]

i thought the john lomax tackle actually saved Ritsons life because had he not been involved in the tackle he never would of had a CT scan on his head which found a life threatening Cist on the brain

No it didn't save his life. He would have been fine for another 10-15 years according to the doctors. He suffered the brain damage in removing the cyst. So if he was not tackled high, he would not have had the scan, therefore the surgery. And been fine for years. When the headaches, etc. started he would have had it scanned, and plenty of time to have it removed to cause no permanent damage. So he would have lived throughout his Rugby League career.

 

[Razor]

And....



Before You wests supporters have a go at me. It was a ugly tackle, i admit that.


but will Craig Smith Sue Jamie Ainscough for giving him a clothesline in the '99 GF?


Will Nathan Fien sue Luke Ricketson for a fist in the gob?


Will Mark O'neill Sue Danny Willams for the Hay maker?

These are some of the possiblites that this Court Case could open.

How could it? All of those players are still playing. And none of them were major incidents. A spear tackle is very dangerous, and always a chance of causing very severe injury or even death. Punching someone in the nose isn't going to do that unless that person has a medical condition. The suspensions handed out to the Storm players were absolutly disgraceful. Should have been at least 4 times as long. Kearney got 5 weeks(the 8 weeks was because of his bad record, but clean skin he would have got 5). That's a disgrace.

 

[AuckMel]

Interesting. Where does this leave SBW (or any other player) on the issue of shoulder charges?

You could very well easily argue that, these are not in fact tackles, but a direct way of going out and just hurting somebody. You bang your head on the ground, suffer a series of headaches which leads to your doctor telling you, you should give up playing in case you suffer permanent brain damage.

Career over, sue the guy who caused it.

The NRL have some work to do.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Didn't Adam Ritson try and sue John Lomax?

Can't remember what ended up happening with that.

no case

his condition was pre existing

Not only that, it probably saved his life as he had to get a head scan which showed the problems he had.

 

[Once Dead]

Way to go crackers, open the gates, set a precedent, and single handedly bring Rugby League to it's knees. It happened with public liability, which killed off many, many community events.



The tackle was nasty, but so are many others and he doesnt deserve anything different. Piss off McCracken you f**in traitor.

I'm with insaneink on this one.......ever heard of Super League? Coffs Harbour, salary cap and crowd violence scandals?.......oh that's right, weren't the Bulldogs major players in these instances? The only traitor here is...

 

[chemicalbrother]

And....



Before You wests supporters have a go at me. It was a ugly tackle, i admit that.


but will Craig Smith Sue Jamie Ainscough for giving him a clothesline in the '99 GF?


Will Nathan Fien sue Luke Ricketson for a fist in the gob?


Will Mark O'neill Sue Danny Willams for the Hay maker?

These are some of the possiblites that this Court Case could open.

How could it? All of those players are still playing. And none of them were major incidents. A spear tackle is very dangerous, and always a chance of causing very severe injury or even death. Punching someone in the nose isn't going to do that unless that person has a medical condition. The suspensions handed out to the Storm players were absolutly disgraceful. Should have been at least 4 times as long. Kearney got 5 weeks(the 8 weeks was because of his bad record, but clean skin he would have got 5). That's a disgrace.

Major Incidents. They all had effect on The brain(bar the Fein incident but that because Ricketson had a small brain. note: last bit my opinion), These injuries Can and will more than likely effect them later on in life, a la McCracken incident.

Being Knock out does serious damage to you body organs but mainly your brain.


In Soccer another case, Simon Colosimo (spelling may be incorrect) sue that Manchester United for Medical bills and Wages.

If McCracken was suing for Medical Bills, i would(as a CEO of any club) be happy to do that, but when it is loss of wages, that make this case a contentious issue.


But my opinion, is that McCracken is for the two players money.

Why has this come up when the two players are now not with the club?
Why has this taken 4 and a half years to sue all of them?
Why has this come when the two Players are on Lucitive Contracts in England?

 

[innsaneink]

This is a case brought forward by a lawyer who will get 45% of what McCracken is seeking. Why is he suing the Storm - because both players are non-residents living in England and can protect their assets.

If this case is successful then let us go through the every injury to every player through the season, example the tackle on Joey Johns that screwed him for the past 2 seasons will eventually come back a haunt the perpetrators. And so it will go on and on and on.

What happens on the field - now ends in the courtroom.

The spear tackle is NOT a tackle that I believe anyone would deliberately inflict on another player - and knowing Kearney and Bai - it was not a deliberate act - it is a accident caused by the style of play which occurred 2 years ago by a small minority of forwards (both offensively and defensively). This style of play has been coached out of the game.

Do I feel sorry for McCracken - yes I do.
Did he have insurance for this - under the player contracts and the NRL - yes he did.
Did he have income protection insurance while playing the toughest game in the world - :roll:
Does he have a ambulance chasing lawyer - you figure it out.
Am I sympathetic - no

You play with the big boys you are going to get hurt.

Was the Johns tackle/incident foul play?

I dont think so, just an accident.

The spear tackle constitutes foul play, illegal in the game.

I think thats the difference.

Interesting. Where does this leave SBW (or any other player) on the issue of shoulder charges?

You could very well easily argue that, these are not in fact tackles, but a direct way of going out and just hurting somebody. You bang your head on the ground, suffer a series of headaches which leads to your doctor telling you, you should give up playing in case you suffer permanent brain damage.

Career over, sue the guy who caused it.

The NRL have some work to do.

As shoulder charges are legal in the game, my guess is that a playing seeking to sue as a result of a career ending injury from a shoulder charge, he wouldnt get far.

Kylie Williams wrote:
McCracken says the tackle was "intentional" and "done with intent to cause injury"

That is something his lawyer wouldn't be able to prove. The only intention is to stop him from advancing, unfortunately the tackle went bad.

I dunno bout that, from memory, even though the whole thing probably only took a few seconds, I seem to remember it seemed to take forever, compared to other spear tackles, and Bai & Kearney had ample time to alter their course of action. IMO.

 

[thickos]

Didn't Adam Ritson try and sue John Lomax?

Can't remember what ended up happening with that.

no case

his condition was pre existing

If anything, the tackle (which forced him to have a CAT scan) probably led to an earlier diagnosis of his condition. I'm not condoning the tackle as it was a terrible hit but I was glad something good came out of it... Ritson could have quite easily died without treatment.

 

[chemicalbrother]

This is a case brought forward by a lawyer who will get 45% of what McCracken is seeking. Why is he suing the Storm - because both players are non-residents living in England and can protect their assets.

If this case is successful then let us go through the every injury to every player through the season, example the tackle on Joey Johns that screwed him for the past 2 seasons will eventually come back a haunt the perpetrators. And so it will go on and on and on.

What happens on the field - now ends in the courtroom.

The spear tackle is NOT a tackle that I believe anyone would deliberately inflict on another player - and knowing Kearney and Bai - it was not a deliberate act - it is a accident caused by the style of play which occurred 2 years ago by a small minority of forwards (both offensively and defensively). This style of play has been coached out of the game.

Do I feel sorry for McCracken - yes I do.
Did he have insurance for this - under the player contracts and the NRL - yes he did.
Did he have income protection insurance while playing the toughest game in the world - :roll:
Does he have a ambulance chasing lawyer - you figure it out.
Am I sympathetic - no

You play with the big boys you are going to get hurt.

Was the Johns tackle/incident foul play?

I dont think so, just an accident.

The spear tackle constitutes foul play, illegal in the game.

I think thats the difference.

Interesting. Where does this leave SBW (or any other player) on the issue of shoulder charges?

You could very well easily argue that, these are not in fact tackles, but a direct way of going out and just hurting somebody. You bang your head on the ground, suffer a series of headaches which leads to your doctor telling you, you should give up playing in case you suffer permanent brain damage.

Career over, sue the guy who caused it.

The NRL have some work to do.

As shoulder charges are legal in the game, my guess is that a playing seeking to sue as a result of a career ending injury from a shoulder charge, he wouldnt get far.

Kylie Williams wrote:
McCracken says the tackle was "intentional" and "done with intent to cause injury"

That is something his lawyer wouldn't be able to prove. The only intention is to stop him from advancing, unfortunately the tackle went bad.

I dunno bout that, from memory, even though the whole thing probably only took a few seconds, I seem to remember it seemed to take forever, compared to other spear tackles, and Bai & Kearney had ample time to alter their course of action. IMO.

You Try and Flip your baby brother in 2 to 3 seconds and spear Tackle him. The action is a spare second decision and to pay $750K for 3 seconds of is a joke. The case will be to pay any extra medical bills and i doubt compo for him

And it takes more that 3 seconds for the brain signals to go to the arms, sometime and this was the case.

 

[NZ Warrior]

I remember the tackle well and yes it was ugly. But it was Bai who caused the tackle to go wrong.

Kearney instigated the lifting and the tackle was looking to result in a back slam as McCracken hadn't past the horizontal going into the downward motion of the tackle. Bai came in and changed McCracken's body angle causing him to land directly on his head, thus compressing his spine.

I honestly don't get how Kearney got the harsher suspension.

 

[NZ Warrior]

Time is probably not the best thing to bring into this argument. A person can shoot someone else dead in a couple of seconds.

 

[bulldog]

You Try and Flip your baby brother in 2 to 3 seconds and spear Tackle him. The action is a spare second decision and to pay $750K for 3 seconds of is a joke. The case will be to pay any extra medical bills and i doubt compo for him

And it takes more that 3 seconds for the brain signals to go to the arms, sometime and this was the case.

Can anyone make sense of this? If it takes 3 seconds for your brain signals to get to your arms you need to see a doctor NOW.

McCracken deserves to be compensated, his career was cut short by an illegal act, I'm not saying Bai and Kearney should pay, I'm sure it was never thier intention to end his career. There should be some sort of fund to pay players who suffer these sorts of injuries, weren't the Players Association fighting for some sort of fund at one point?

 

[chemicalbrother]

You Try and Flip your baby brother in 2 to 3 seconds and spear Tackle him. The action is a spare second decision and to pay $750K for 3 seconds of is a joke. The case will be to pay any extra medical bills and i doubt compo for him

And it takes more that 3 seconds for the brain signals to go to the arms, sometime and this was the case.

Can anyone make sense of this? If it takes 3 seconds for your brain signals to get to your arms you need to see a doctor NOW.

McCracken deserves to be compensated, his career was cut short by an illegal act, I'm not saying Bai and Kearney should pay, I'm sure it was never thier intention to end his career. There should be some sort of fund to pay players who suffer these sorts of injuries, weren't the Players Association fighting for some sort of fund at one point?

READ THE POST AGIAN, IT SAID SOMETIMES NOT ALL THE TIME, i see that they don't learn english in you neck of the woods.


I argee he should get compo but only the medical bills should be paid. For any extra compo is wrong, he dream to be a superstar is dashed and at least he can be in real estate now.

 

[bulldog]

i see that they don't learn english in you neck of the woods

We do learn english good at where I live at.

We also learn grammar and spelling, give it a try, it can be fun to make sense.