Misty Bee
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OK. Now it's personal.
I'm not a fan of Fitzy. I'm distrustful of the abilities of Brian Smith. I admire the Roosters and Gus Gould. This you already know.
However, you probably have already seen this mornings article in the SMH entitled "Roosters dig in for salary cap". For those of you that haven't, I have pasted it below. I draw your attetion to the portion in bold:
Roosters dig in for salary cap fight
By Danny Weidler
December 28, 2003
The Sun-Herald
Roosters lawyer and vice-chairman Michael Conn says his club's resolve to pursue a salary cap increase is stronger than ever and designed to help save rugby league, not to kill off clubs, as has been portrayed.
Conn has also revealed the Roosters are after only a 10-15 per cent increase in the cap and has been highly critical of the way the NRL has handled the matter, demanding an inquiry into the league's board.
Conn says the Roosters firmly believe that unless a cap increase is granted and followed by other rises, rivals sports, most notably a buoyant rugby union, soccer and AFL, will start to be more attractive sports for kids to pursue.
And Roosters coaching director Phil Gould has savaged Parramatta boss Denis Fitzgerald and others who blasted the Roosters last week over their push for a salary cap increase.
"Denis Fitzgerald is kidding himself," Gould said.
Gould has also questioned the role of News Limited executives having a place on the board of the NRL partnership committee.
Conn says the Roosters would like to avoid legal action over the salary cap but feel strongly enough to take the matter to court.
"This in not an idle threat," he said. "We won't be deterred by all of the criticism. In fact, it has made us more determined and strengthened our resolve. We will go through with this.
"I am not in the habit of pulling the trigger unless there is a bullet in the chamber."
Conn said his club had been misrepresented in the media since news of the challenge to the cap emerged.
"League as a code faces a huge threat from other sports if players are not going to be suitably paid," he said.
"I know at the Roosters our coach, Ricky Stuart, doesn't want his players to be working jobs so they can be full-time footballers, but then some of these guys have to live off salaries that are less than what the staff earn.
"It is not right and we need to make sure that this is changed.
"As for ruining the game, that's just rubbish. No-one is making every club spend every cent of their salary cap. That is not in the rules.
"We want an increase so that our players are fairly rewarded and we want to be able to be able to retain our players.
"We are not doing this so we can buy every player that comes on to the market," said Conn, who was also critical of the way the NRL has handled the matter.
"Obviously there is a problem if we can't submit a document without it being leaked to the media," he said.
"It was very mischievous and we are demanding an inquiry into what went on."
Gould has lashed out at Fitzgerald for suggesting that Politis has a conflict of interests by holding his club position and being an NRL partnership board member.
"Some of these blokes have bloody short memories, if you ask me," Gould said. "Jumping on the bandwagon to criticise Nick Politis shows how shallow these people really are.
"Nick Politis saved a lot of these people and their clubs during the Super League war when he remained loyal to them despite so much pressure to jump to the other side.
"If he had jumped, they were history. In fact, this is the very reason that they are bashing him in the press.
"Denis Fitzgerald conveniently forgets how we pulled him out of the sh*t when we bought him a heap of players during the Super League war.
"His club was down and out and we saved him. We even told him which coach to buy.
"Claims that he should be off the NRL partnership board because of a conflict of interests make me laugh.
"There are three News Limited executives on that board and we all know that News still holds a significant financial interest in three former Super League clubs.
"They have opened a can of worms if they want to start talking about conflict of interest."
Who the friggin hell does this dipshit Panther junior think he is?
Firstly, Easts didn't "save the world from Traitor League" as they (and Manly also) claim. It was the concerted efforts of clubs like Balmain, Norths, Newcastle, South Queensland, The Gold Coast, The Steelers and the rest that stood shoulder to shoulder with the ARL. In fact, the balance that tipped the scale was not the actions of manly and Easts. It was the day Denis Fitzgerald announced to the world in late 1996 that "The Parramatta board have voted and decided that the Paarramatta Eels will play ion the 1997 ARL competition". That night, St George also followed suit. The die was cast.
Secondly, is Gus insinuating that Easts GAVE us the Canterbury 4, plus Ritson, Freeman, Raper et al? Big call. Because if the Roosters had that nmuch power, then Canberra's fear was right, and therefore the Super league war was just. Remember the Raiders living in fear of being decimated by the Roosters, which drove them to Murdoch? Big call, Gus.
And finally, is he insinuating that they told Parra to sign Brian Smith? How big a statement is that! If so, why would they do that?
Lets ponder upon that for a second. Gus is Smithy's mate. Was it a 'jobs for the boys' deal? Hardly likely, considering that Politis and Fitzy were already at war over a spot on the ARL board (Politis deposing Fitzy). That opens another question: did Easts knowingly saddle Parra with an overrated coach, knowing that even with a heap of talent, Parra woldn't challenge them for a premiership (spectacularly rebuffed with teh Baby Eels of 2001.
And if Easts DID have that power, who gave it to them? The ARL was manly controlled (Manly being the strong club of the time, and Arko was boss). John Quayle (who was also ex-Eel, and did his job in a totally professional and unbiased manner)? Nope. Packer? Maybe - he was in bed with Murdoch during the whole scenario. But Packer was also at war with Murdoch over Union. IF Packer had control of the ARL (quite likely), how would he have surrendered Union so meekly, and let Rupert have the cream of Leagues profitability? Kerry isn't so stupid. More likely that the real control lay with the ARL, with Packers blessing (so long as they would spend thir money defending his contract). I doubt that Packer would have spent his money making waves for Easts. Besides, he's a Manly supporter, and Manly have died in the arse since then).
I reckon Gus and the Chooks are just out of control. With this admission, they have become the new Brisbane - a self serving, arrogant bunch of opportunists, who are wiling to bite the hand that feeds if it doesn't feed enough.
I am apalled that the Roosters are willing to drag Parramatta's good name in the mud. f**k me if Parramatta is not the most loyal, honest and proud club in the whole comp - the whole history of Rugby League. They have never sold their sould like the Traitors did. They have never rortred like Canberra, Melboring or Canterbury ever did. They have never wasted wonderful junior talent like Penrith, Souths and Wests did. Their premierships are covered in glory. No salary cap cheating. No bought referees like Manly . No illegal shoulderpad like the scum dogs. No biting or thuggery like Saints. No submitting to suicidal mergers like Norths. Not 'march to the death on the CEO's blind arrogance" like Souths, No pathetic handouts like North Queensland, Melboring, Cronulla, Brisbane or NZ.
Parramatta is the once constant in the NRL. Since 1947, they have stood as a colossus of good, even (often) to their own detriment. They willingly gave up the juniors of Campbelltown and Liverpool to aid Wests' life saving relocation. They give the country the Eels on Wheels, they are always in Bronco territory doing the promotionand legwork that the fat arsed Broncos fail to do. In fact, they are rugby League's oldest surviving team, carrying their colours and name with pride further than all others? Can't fathom that last quote? Which of the other clubs in the 1947 comp haven't changed their name, colours, or failed to participate in every comp ever since!
I'm not a fan of Fitzy. I'm distrustful of the abilities of Brian Smith. I admire the Roosters and Gus Gould. This you already know.
However, you probably have already seen this mornings article in the SMH entitled "Roosters dig in for salary cap". For those of you that haven't, I have pasted it below. I draw your attetion to the portion in bold:
Roosters dig in for salary cap fight
By Danny Weidler
December 28, 2003
The Sun-Herald
Roosters lawyer and vice-chairman Michael Conn says his club's resolve to pursue a salary cap increase is stronger than ever and designed to help save rugby league, not to kill off clubs, as has been portrayed.
Conn has also revealed the Roosters are after only a 10-15 per cent increase in the cap and has been highly critical of the way the NRL has handled the matter, demanding an inquiry into the league's board.
Conn says the Roosters firmly believe that unless a cap increase is granted and followed by other rises, rivals sports, most notably a buoyant rugby union, soccer and AFL, will start to be more attractive sports for kids to pursue.
And Roosters coaching director Phil Gould has savaged Parramatta boss Denis Fitzgerald and others who blasted the Roosters last week over their push for a salary cap increase.
"Denis Fitzgerald is kidding himself," Gould said.
Gould has also questioned the role of News Limited executives having a place on the board of the NRL partnership committee.
Conn says the Roosters would like to avoid legal action over the salary cap but feel strongly enough to take the matter to court.
"This in not an idle threat," he said. "We won't be deterred by all of the criticism. In fact, it has made us more determined and strengthened our resolve. We will go through with this.
"I am not in the habit of pulling the trigger unless there is a bullet in the chamber."
Conn said his club had been misrepresented in the media since news of the challenge to the cap emerged.
"League as a code faces a huge threat from other sports if players are not going to be suitably paid," he said.
"I know at the Roosters our coach, Ricky Stuart, doesn't want his players to be working jobs so they can be full-time footballers, but then some of these guys have to live off salaries that are less than what the staff earn.
"It is not right and we need to make sure that this is changed.
"As for ruining the game, that's just rubbish. No-one is making every club spend every cent of their salary cap. That is not in the rules.
"We want an increase so that our players are fairly rewarded and we want to be able to be able to retain our players.
"We are not doing this so we can buy every player that comes on to the market," said Conn, who was also critical of the way the NRL has handled the matter.
"Obviously there is a problem if we can't submit a document without it being leaked to the media," he said.
"It was very mischievous and we are demanding an inquiry into what went on."
Gould has lashed out at Fitzgerald for suggesting that Politis has a conflict of interests by holding his club position and being an NRL partnership board member.
"Some of these blokes have bloody short memories, if you ask me," Gould said. "Jumping on the bandwagon to criticise Nick Politis shows how shallow these people really are.
"Nick Politis saved a lot of these people and their clubs during the Super League war when he remained loyal to them despite so much pressure to jump to the other side.
"If he had jumped, they were history. In fact, this is the very reason that they are bashing him in the press.
"Denis Fitzgerald conveniently forgets how we pulled him out of the sh*t when we bought him a heap of players during the Super League war.
"His club was down and out and we saved him. We even told him which coach to buy.
"Claims that he should be off the NRL partnership board because of a conflict of interests make me laugh.
"There are three News Limited executives on that board and we all know that News still holds a significant financial interest in three former Super League clubs.
"They have opened a can of worms if they want to start talking about conflict of interest."
Who the friggin hell does this dipshit Panther junior think he is?
Firstly, Easts didn't "save the world from Traitor League" as they (and Manly also) claim. It was the concerted efforts of clubs like Balmain, Norths, Newcastle, South Queensland, The Gold Coast, The Steelers and the rest that stood shoulder to shoulder with the ARL. In fact, the balance that tipped the scale was not the actions of manly and Easts. It was the day Denis Fitzgerald announced to the world in late 1996 that "The Parramatta board have voted and decided that the Paarramatta Eels will play ion the 1997 ARL competition". That night, St George also followed suit. The die was cast.
Secondly, is Gus insinuating that Easts GAVE us the Canterbury 4, plus Ritson, Freeman, Raper et al? Big call. Because if the Roosters had that nmuch power, then Canberra's fear was right, and therefore the Super league war was just. Remember the Raiders living in fear of being decimated by the Roosters, which drove them to Murdoch? Big call, Gus.
And finally, is he insinuating that they told Parra to sign Brian Smith? How big a statement is that! If so, why would they do that?
Lets ponder upon that for a second. Gus is Smithy's mate. Was it a 'jobs for the boys' deal? Hardly likely, considering that Politis and Fitzy were already at war over a spot on the ARL board (Politis deposing Fitzy). That opens another question: did Easts knowingly saddle Parra with an overrated coach, knowing that even with a heap of talent, Parra woldn't challenge them for a premiership (spectacularly rebuffed with teh Baby Eels of 2001.
And if Easts DID have that power, who gave it to them? The ARL was manly controlled (Manly being the strong club of the time, and Arko was boss). John Quayle (who was also ex-Eel, and did his job in a totally professional and unbiased manner)? Nope. Packer? Maybe - he was in bed with Murdoch during the whole scenario. But Packer was also at war with Murdoch over Union. IF Packer had control of the ARL (quite likely), how would he have surrendered Union so meekly, and let Rupert have the cream of Leagues profitability? Kerry isn't so stupid. More likely that the real control lay with the ARL, with Packers blessing (so long as they would spend thir money defending his contract). I doubt that Packer would have spent his money making waves for Easts. Besides, he's a Manly supporter, and Manly have died in the arse since then).
I reckon Gus and the Chooks are just out of control. With this admission, they have become the new Brisbane - a self serving, arrogant bunch of opportunists, who are wiling to bite the hand that feeds if it doesn't feed enough.
I am apalled that the Roosters are willing to drag Parramatta's good name in the mud. f**k me if Parramatta is not the most loyal, honest and proud club in the whole comp - the whole history of Rugby League. They have never sold their sould like the Traitors did. They have never rortred like Canberra, Melboring or Canterbury ever did. They have never wasted wonderful junior talent like Penrith, Souths and Wests did. Their premierships are covered in glory. No salary cap cheating. No bought referees like Manly . No illegal shoulderpad like the scum dogs. No biting or thuggery like Saints. No submitting to suicidal mergers like Norths. Not 'march to the death on the CEO's blind arrogance" like Souths, No pathetic handouts like North Queensland, Melboring, Cronulla, Brisbane or NZ.
Parramatta is the once constant in the NRL. Since 1947, they have stood as a colossus of good, even (often) to their own detriment. They willingly gave up the juniors of Campbelltown and Liverpool to aid Wests' life saving relocation. They give the country the Eels on Wheels, they are always in Bronco territory doing the promotionand legwork that the fat arsed Broncos fail to do. In fact, they are rugby League's oldest surviving team, carrying their colours and name with pride further than all others? Can't fathom that last quote? Which of the other clubs in the 1947 comp haven't changed their name, colours, or failed to participate in every comp ever since!
Nicely done Penelope. ;-) Cheers Misty. Hope you got the reaction you've been so desperately trolling for. :roll:
