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Mighty pennies v the tigpies

murraymob

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...or just maybe it’s bullshit? I mean it’s Hooper making the claim here.
This is opposite to what he said on 360 tonight he was claiming that it is the panthers supporters who are salty he claimed he was on the hill and seen nothing
 

stryker

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It’s a pretty sensational claim that women and kids were being pelted with beer cans.
Doesnt strike me as very accurate. Where did the story originate?
 

stryker

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This is opposite to what he said on 360 tonight he was claiming that it is the panthers supporters who are salty he claimed he was on the hill and seen nothing
What’s going on then? I’m sure there was foul language and abuse, but the beer can stuff sounds greatly exaggerated.
 

mxlegend99

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No, this is your coach's fault because he is such a low life he attracts this type of attention
Wrong. Tigers fans are just being a bunch of salty bitches who can't get over a coach choosing to leave instead of being sacked. Ivan would not be your coach if he chose go stay. He would have been sacked long ago.

All we ever hear is how he destroyed your cap and roster. Shouldnt getting rid of him and getting compensated for it be a good thing? Tigers came out ahead with a better coach paid for by the shit coach.
 

Pomoz

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We had a few like for like guys to slot in. Like May in for Yeo etc. Storm, Roosters etc would back the player in the system. Last night they tried to be different and it showed
Meanwhile, back talking about the game...........This plus one. We would have been much better to put May at lock, Eisenhuth at prop and Salmon or Falls at half. Players are then playing in positions they are used to. May would be very effective at lock.

As for the teams performance a couple of points:

- Kikau continued the poor form he has shown for the last month and really didn't step up and lead the way. 81% effective tackle percentage says it all and he gave away penalties, made handling errors and played like a rookie. I am not sure if he will ever get to that elite level;

- The spine stunk. As discussed above, May was used poorly and yet he made 41 tackles, missing none (1 ineffective). To criticise him for not having a good combination with Burton is harsh in my view. We were clunky in attack and Burton, Kenny and Edwards had very average games. But what did we expect? They have never played together as a unit before;

- The team tackled well and had a higher effective tackle percentage than the Tigers and a better completion rate. The resilient DNA is still there, but it will count for nothing if you can't score. Remember a few seasons ago when we camped in the opposition 20? We were back to that type of limited play. The Tigers did a lot more with the ball in hand which is why they had more line breaks, more tackle breaks and ultimately more points. A clunky spine won't cut it unless your forwards are completely dominating and ours weren't;

- I never understood why people thought we would win this. Five players have not completed an NRL season yet. Two of them were on debut. The halves haven't played together before and 3 of the forwards normally start on the bench. I don't blame the Tigers for thinking we are arrogant when people expected us to win with this team. We are good, but not that good;

- In spite of the loss, we should be pleased we were competitive, 13 of the players debuted with the Panthers and we didn't roll over and give up.
 

John Hamblin

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Well said. As others have said we need to look at the long game. Sure it would be great to win this week but need to balance that with the health of the squad. Api and Leota back will make a big difference Salmon at halfback and May at lock. If we lose not the end of the world.
 

Tigertail

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Wrong. Tigers fans are just being a bunch of salty bitches who can't get over a coach choosing to leave instead of being sacked. Ivan would not be your coach if he chose go stay. He would have been sacked long ago.

All we ever hear is how he destroyed your cap and roster. Shouldnt getting rid of him and getting compensated for it be a good thing? Tigers came out ahead with a better coach paid for by the shit coach.
So if you offerred your mate a job when he was unemployed, and he went behind your back sabotage your business and then go work for the opposition , you would say that's ok, have a good day..... bs
However , I do not think he is a shit coach just that he has a very low morality.
 
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God defend Wests Tigers arse.

( Maori version first)

hence:


Smug of footy, at our feet
At Leichhardt Oval we did meet
3,567 players out to origins beat
God defend our free club

A curse on Ivan and his staff
Kisses blown, now copping a bath
Kiks is tired and May was barf
God defend wests tigers arse.

Gods of Footy, we entreat
Killed smug dead on Rozelles street
Jenno hopeless, Dylan slow
Ivan blamed Burto -who had a go

A curse of Ivan and his staff
For starting a myth that failed to last
Drunken yobbos having a blast
God defend wests tigers arse!
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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So if you offerred your mate a job when he was unemployed, and he went behind your back sabotage your business and then go work for the opposition , you would say that's ok, have a good day..... bs
However , I do not think he is a shit coach just that he has a very low morality.





This seems to be a late night thing, when some (generally shallow end of the gene pool) are heavily into their cups, and begin inane ramblings on this forum. I will say this once. Run home, using up all mum and dad's data whilst drinking Mcwilliams sherry and Mums dessert wine is not a good idea.

Now for the ignore button........where is it.
 
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So if you offerred your mate a job when he was unemployed, and he went behind your back sabotage your business and then go work for the opposition , you would say that's ok, have a good day..... bs
However , I do not think he is a shit coach just that he has a very low morality.

I don’t think he sabotaged us, just made some bad decisions. Good faith stupidity. Like the Titantic trying to miss the iceberg and thus ripping into 4 bulkheads (instead of 1 or 2) which sank her.

I was thinking about his attributes as a coach. He’s never been as successful than with smug and I was thinking that’s as much as a product of the Panthers finally getting their recruitment and retention right, identifying and keeping top grade juniors, wise purchasing etc. That itself is talent in officialdom.

So he turns up as the cream is not only rising but overflowing.

As no other coach as coached the smug kids, it’s hard to say whether the historic and miraculous run would have happened anyway. I mean he muffed the grand final, the big one. I guess you’d have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at his press conference after our game, he seemed way creepy to me. Much too angry and a world away. He was very gracious in some aspects, but he might have been a bit distracted with things. Blaming poor Burto the next day was amiss. He wasn’t the only regular mia.

Apart from rusted on smug, I get the impression he’s not very well liked in footy land. A bit of a loner, thus the chance to coach his family was attractive.

Panthers are a very social club, bound together by years of hard knocks. Unspoken yet understood. He seems a bit outside that. He’s not from Penrith, doesn’t seem to have the insight into the DNA.
 
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mxlegend99

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So if you offerred your mate a job when he was unemployed, and he went behind your back sabotage your business and then go work for the opposition , you would say that's ok, have a good day..... bs
However , I do not think he is a shit coach just that he has a very low morality.
How did he sabotage Tigers? He did the best job he could while he was there. If you feel he did a bad job it's a good thing he's gone

It's not his fault he was given too much responsibility in recruitment at a club where no one wants to go. He has never managed a cap or negotiated with players. It was incompetence to put him in that position on his own. No coach should be doing that.

If i employed a mate and he got offered a better job elsewhere I would be happy for him to take it. Why would i not want him to do what's best for his family?

At the end of the day clubs have no loyalty to players or coaches. Tigers especially have been quick to punt them. Carrying on years later over a coach accepting a job elsewhere is just ridiculous. Especially everyone thinks he was bad at the job and made the club worse. Seems ridiculous to be filthy at a person who was bad at the job leaving and then paying for his replacement who is regarded as better.
 

DinkyDi

Juniors
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So if you offerred your mate a job when he was unemployed, and he went behind your back sabotage your business and then go work for the opposition , you would say that's ok, have a good day..... bs
However , I do not think he is a shit coach just that he has a very low morality.
You really need to get over that. Ivan signed a contract for the Panthers in a years advance. He had every intention in honoring that contract with the Tigers, until your board made that impossible. Players signs for rival clubs 12 months ahead, so why can't coaches?
 

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