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Mike Gibson's column ... what do u think ?

OVP

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http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,15022614-23214,00.html

Is Stuart an asset or liability?
By Mike Gibson
April 20, 2005

THERE are two schools of thought on Ricky Stuart.

Firstly, there are those who claim he is a protected species.

Hey, where does an NRL coach get off, going on national television and describing a referee's decision as "disgraceful"?

What sort of example was that?

What sort of precedent was established when the NRL failed to fine him the prescribed $10,000?

Has the NRL given up on Stuart and the Roosters club?

Does it figure that $10,000 is such a chicken feed amount to the heavy hitters behind the scenes at Bondi Junction that it's a waste of time issuing the standard penalty?

These are the questions that supporters of other clubs are asking after last Friday night's ripsnorter at Telstra Stadium.

Sure, Adrian Morley should never have been sent off.

But had any other coach publicly savaged the referee the way Stuart did would the NRL have let him off with a reprimand?

What will the NRL do next time a coach disagrees with a referee's decision, gets on national television and brands it "disgraceful"?

The problem with Ricky Stuart is Ricky Stuart.

Few people wear their hearts on their sleeves like the man they call Sticky.

As a player, he revolutionised rugby league with his kicking game and wonderful cut-out pass.

As a coach, he revolutionised the game with the Roosters' crushing defence.

In a game where you're supposed to sanitise your sentiments, and go home and drop-kick the moggy when you get angry, with Ricky what you see is what you hear.

Is it in the best interests of the game to curb his criticism, to give him a verbal vasectomy, to muffle him to the stage that he no longer bothers to publicly discuss the game at all?

I just happen to be one of those people who think that Stuart is one of the best things rugby league has going for it.

Ricky and I have had our differences.

No doubt about it, Ricky hasn't held back when I've written something to which he has taken exception.

But I'd expect nothing less.

That's what I like about Stuart.

Rather than brood on something, instead of scowling at you next time he sees you and muttering a few words under his breath, Ricky tells you what he's thinking.

He's the same in public.

That's why sports writers -- and television directors - love him.

Ask Ricky for a quote before the big game.

Tight shot on Ricky when the Roosters have just blown the try that would have wrapped it all up.

The old Wide World Of Sports said it best.

The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. Put a rugby league face to it, and it's the face of the coach of the Roosters.

In a game where too many people are either discouraged from saying what they think, or in some cases sadly incapable of expressing themselves in anything but cliches, Stuart stands out as a spokesman of passion and conviction.

The bottom line with Ricky is if you want to listen to him, he's not your man to toe the party line.

He'll tell you how he feels. He'll tell you the way it is, according to Ricky.

Take that away, and you'll shut him up.

And in a game short on guys who shoot from the lip, rugby league will have lost the liveliest voice of them all.
 

iggy plop

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Has anyone seen Mike Gibson's neck on the Back Page?

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He's a shot of him from a recent episode.
 

Southernsaint

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Mike Gibson said:
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,15022614-23214,00.html

Is Stuart an asset or liability?
By
April 20, 2005

...The bottom line with Ricky is if you want to listen to him, he's not your man to toe the party line.

He'll tell you how he feels. He'll tell you the way it is, according to Ricky.

Take that away, and you'll shut him up.

And in a game short on guys who shoot from the lip, rugby league will have lost the liveliest voice of them all.

Isn't this the VERY SAME thing he criticises Anthony Mundine for??

:roll:
 

JJ

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Stuart should have been fined - that's the rule. While I think that within reason coaches and players should be able to criticise refs, Stuart called the decision disgraceful and amateurish - the next coach that makes a comment and is fined will be livid!!

Since when did Sturat revolutionise the game with his long passes and kicking game FFS???????

I have only been watching since tha late 70s - but certainly Wally Lewis was a master of the long cut out pass well before Stuart had even begun playing league. His long kicking game was certainly the best I've seen - but I dunno if I'd call it revolutionary...
 

Foz

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I think Stuart should of been fined too.
I also believe all coaches should be allowed to vent their views about the game.
Sure say you dont agree with decisions but stop from having a go at the ref.
If your smart enough you can do this.
Say you disagree with the refs decision about ...........(whatever) but then get on with it.
Leave the personality out of it.
Dont comment on how good or bad a refs performance is.
Imagine if the refs could comment on how good a coaching performance is.
Officials have to be treated with respect or we wont end up with any.
I think Simpkins has handled the whole situation well.
Haven't heard boo from him.
I know he isn't allowed (rules) but that didn't stop Ricky.
Leave it to us supporters to whinge about the ref. :lol: :lol:
 

Broncodroid

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What do I think? I agree.

The NRL off the field is one big contradiction at times, Wayne Bennett is chastised for not speaking enough, Ricky Stuart scolded when speaking his mind when once again a referree f###ed up on the weekend which could of cost his team a vital 2pts in this tight competition.

David Gallop has come out and once again, like the 1900's school teacher, he has pointed out the error in Ricky's ways as he was outta' line for verbally attacking Simpkins after the game when CH9 are right under his nose after an emotional Friday night win. Shame on him Gallop :roll: How about you instruct CH9 and other media contingents to allow a "cooling off" period for all players and coaches if you are going to punish them for speaking how it is right after a game where emotions are high? Ridiculous? I know it is, but to appease the powers to be and do the right thing by the public it seems this is the only fair way so players and or coaches are not having to pay the paltry $10,000 fine.

Ricky Stuart said in an article that 2-3 hours of his day is taken up by media committments i.e. pre-game thoughts, ringing back reporters about the team etc. IF Gallop is going to censor Stuart, by rights that 2-3 hours spent promoting the game and doing the right thing by the media (full of gossip mongers and morons like Paul Kent anyway) will be better spent focusing on his team that is underachieving at the minute. Sydney Roosters win here, not the NRL or league public wanting to hear the opinion of a brilliant rugby league mind.

No doubt, if Stuart palms off of his media obligations, Gallop again will have something to say...Stuart can't win here.
 

lotm

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Broncodroid said:
David Gallop has come out and once again, like the 1900's school teacher, he has pointed out the error in Ricky's ways as he was outta' line for verbally attacking Simpkins after the game when CH9 are right under his nose after an emotional Friday night win. Shame on him Gallop How about you instruct CH9 and other media contingents to allow a "cooling off" period for all players and coaches if you are going to punish them for speaking how it is right after a game where emotions are high? Ridiculous? I know it is, but to appease the powers to be and do the right thing by the public it seems this is the only fair way so players and or coaches are not having to pay the paltry $10,000 fine.
if i'm not mistaken, he said exactly the same thing in his press conference - giving him enough time to compose and control himself. his excuse about ch9 shoving a camera and microphone in his face just before the match ended holds no water, especially considering the press conference was the time at which he called for the referee to be dropped.

imo, there must be some (albeit small) degree of censorship if he is to coach nrl. there is no doubt in my mind that he should have paid the "paltry" $10,000 fine.

stuart's reaction of threatening to avoid the media is the most immature a grown man could have chosen. he knew exactly what he was getting into when he took the fg coaching position at the roosters, and i have absolutely no sympathy for him if he blatantly and deliberately breaches the code of conduct.

the nrl's decision not to fine stuart was disappointing to say the least. i hope it doesn't serve as a precedent to allow blatant and unnecessary criticism of referees in the future.
 

Mr Saab

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ricky should take a page out of Bennetts book...talk to the media as less as possible.
 

Chook

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Broncodroid said:
What do I think? I agree.

The NRL off the field is one big contradiction at times, Wayne Bennett is chastised for not speaking enough, Ricky Stuart scolded when speaking his mind when once again a referree f###ed up on the weekend which could of cost his team a vital 2pts in this tight competition.

David Gallop has come out and once again, like the 1900's school teacher, he has pointed out the error in Ricky's ways as he was outta' line for verbally attacking Simpkins after the game when CH9 are right under his nose after an emotional Friday night win. Shame on him Gallop :roll: How about you instruct CH9 and other media contingents to allow a "cooling off" period for all players and coaches if you are going to punish them for speaking how it is right after a game where emotions are high? Ridiculous? I know it is, but to appease the powers to be and do the right thing by the public it seems this is the only fair way so players and or coaches are not having to pay the paltry $10,000 fine.

Ricky Stuart said in an article that 2-3 hours of his day is taken up by media committments i.e. pre-game thoughts, ringing back reporters about the team etc. IF Gallop is going to censor Stuart, by rights that 2-3 hours spent promoting the game and doing the right thing by the media (full of gossip mongers and morons like Paul Kent anyway) will be better spent focusing on his team that is underachieving at the minute. Sydney Roosters win here, not the NRL or league public wanting to hear the opinion of a brilliant rugby league mind.

No doubt, if Stuart palms off of his media obligations, Gallop again will have something to say...Stuart can't win here.

100% spot on!!

The NRL are currently promoting the passion of our game in ad campaigns, but then turn around and demand our coaches are robotic, personalityless, PC aware automotons! And most of what coaches say is taken out of context anyway and used to "controversy up" a story. That's why Bennett wouldn't answer questions from certain reporters.

Chook.
 
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iggy plop said:
Has anyone seen Mike Gibson's neck on the Back Page?

1086138251.jpg


He's a shot of him from a recent episode.

No offence to any ladies this isnt meant for you's only a very small minority.

But on the backpage they are like a pack of old women gossiping around there knitting needles, crap that I deadset refuse to watch.
 

Mr Saab

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backpage is an ok show...its much better without billy "my jokes are 1990s" birmingham. When Billy is on i switch off
 

Mr Saab

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i want some semblence of sport talk. When he is on its jokes all hr...and most of them have been done to death.
Its much better when Fitzsimmons, brian wilson (melb) and kent are on the show. I dont agree with someof the stuff they say, but its still good.
As for Billy? he needs to wake up and realise its 2005
 

hrundi99

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Southernsaint said:
Mike Gibson said:
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,15022614-23214,00.html

Is Stuart an asset or liability?
By
April 20, 2005

...The bottom line with Ricky is if you want to listen to him, he's not your man to toe the party line.

He'll tell you how he feels. He'll tell you the way it is, according to Ricky.

Take that away, and you'll shut him up.

And in a game short on guys who shoot from the lip, rugby league will have lost the liveliest voice of them all.

Isn't this the VERY SAME thing he criticises Anthony Mundine for??

:roll:

Maybe, but Stuart has a lot more to offer than Mundine.
 

Godz Illa

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Southernsaint said:
Mike Gibson said:
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,15022614-23214,00.html

Is Stuart an asset or liability?
By
April 20, 2005

...The bottom line with Ricky is if you want to listen to him, he's not your man to toe the party line.

He'll tell you how he feels. He'll tell you the way it is, according to Ricky.

Take that away, and you'll shut him up.

And in a game short on guys who shoot from the lip, rugby league will have lost the liveliest voice of them all.

Isn't this the VERY SAME thing he criticises Anthony Mundine for??

:roll:
EXACTLY what I thought when I read this tripe. Gibson is a hypocrite of the highest order.
 

strong_latte

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Knight82 said:
iggy plop said:
Has anyone seen Mike Gibson's neck on the Back Page?

1086138251.jpg


He's a shot of him from a recent episode.

No offence to any ladies this isnt meant for you's only a very small minority.

But on the backpage they are like a pack of old women gossiping around there knitting needles, crap that I deadset refuse to watch.

Still better than the Footy Show :lol:
 
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