Minnows screwed over - RWC=joke competition

[Skippy1]

Nice one! Pleased to meet you too.

I take it from your comments about the RLWC that you may be a Kiwi cousin then?? I watched the final, and although the Kanga's never really looked too pressed the Kiwi's did look as if they had a bit about them. The trouble stems at the moment from the Kangaroo's having been so dominate for such a long time. When other teams face them it is the psychological advantage of having been on top for so long. A lot like the AB's used to be back in the days of amateur rugby. Our Cricketers enjoy a similar advantage as well at the moment. It won't last though, these thing generally are cyclical.

I have no doubt you are right in saying the RWC will be a success. Even if the Wallabies don't win the cup again, the Australian public will make a spectacle of it as it is sport in it's purist sense. A competition designed to have one final victor, for the next four years for us to chew over. It is the essence of the Australian psyche to support the event. Yes there will be thrashings, as there are in any large collection of teams striving for the ultimate goal. The Aust. v Namibia game is one that will be such a game. But when else would these young Namibians get the opportunity to play against the likes of Gregan, Smith and Waugh? They will be able to go home after the WC and say yes, I've been able to measure myself against some of the best. And if by some chance one of these young blokes manages to score a try, well, it would be the highlight of his career, and would be a cherished memory for the rest of his life. Always, special things happen at WC's, of any sport. Look at Korea in the Soccer WC. I take your point about the teams who can't field their strongest teams due to club commitments/cohersion, but it has to be remembered that professionalism is still in it's infancy as yet, and has a long way to go before it has sorted it's problems out. I'm sure it will come though, given time.

I missed the Super League war, as I moved over here in '93 just as it was all kicking off. Glad I missed it to be honest. As far as I could work out it was all about money. The bane of any sport I'm afraid. But without it there would be no sport. Shame, but there it is!

I know you weren't ignoring the smaller nations in the rugby season debate, it's just one of the many problems involved in having a global sport. There will always be a loser one way or the other.

Got to go, time to go home. See you tomorrow.

Cheers, Skip.

 

[CanadianSteve]

Australia A put 108 odd points on Canada last year, imagine what the current NZ team will do!

I'm not arguing against your overall point, but I have to speak up and qualify that result a little. The Canada team that lost to Aus A last year was weaker than it will be in the WC, because all of the professional players from Europe were missing. In the WC I believe 2 will be missing, and that's terrible, but we will still be stronger than last year. About a month after that loss to Aus A, Canada returned home, added some of the professional players, and upset Scotland in Vancouver. Also the Aus A team last year was pretty strong, with Sailor and a few others who were about to become Wallabies. This August I saw Canada lose to the Maori team by a score of something like 30-6, nothing like a 100 point loss.

Having said all that, I suppose it is possible that the All blacks will put a big score on Canada in pool play this WC.

 

[Te Kaha]

Good morning Te Kaha,

Where exactly did you detect the snobbery bit mate? :? The fact is, I've played both codes of Rugby, and also a couple of seasons of Aussie rules. I would also stress that I have actually played more League than Union, as most of the schools I went to only played League.

You make huge assumptions based on one particular post. Perhaps you are only a youngster, so I will allow for the fact that perhaps you are still a little impetuous, and don't think before posting.

I have spent a couple of days reading through several of the threads here, and have found a great deal of dross, posted by people who obviously know very little about the game played in heaven, and yet still feel competent to comment on the games failings!

Far enough! But if you can't respond to comments designed to merely evoke a little discussion, without all the random and un-thought out put-downs, then why do you ever bother to put hands to keyboard?? :?: :?

snob    One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors. 
One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of taste or intellect. 

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996

Now examples of this

Hi Joker.

Obviously this is a wind-up, but simply couldn't resist

To compare the last RLWC to the RWC is so ludicrous. The Lebanese team was full of Campsie boys out for a laugh, and not a serious proposition as a team............ Remember seeing a programme on the telly over here (England) at the time about the Lebanese team, and they all had the strongest Aussie accents........ The programme then went to Lebanon, yep, you guessed it, they'd never heard of the game, let alone who the hell the players were! The New Zealand Maori team was simply the reserve team for the Kiwi firsts.........Even the Kiwi's are only second rate, as Union is completely dominant in their country...................A little embarrassing when you think of it in that light, isn't it?.......Anyway, lets see if you can manage an intelligent come back.......Perhaps you are only a youngster, so I will allow for the fact that perhaps you are still a little impetuous, and don't think before posting.

I stand by my comment your first post made you come across as a snob.

 

[Skippy1]

Good morning Te Kaha,

Where exactly did you detect the snobbery bit mate? :? The fact is, I've played both codes of Rugby, and also a couple of seasons of Aussie rules. I would also stress that I have actually played more League than Union, as most of the schools I went to only played League.

You make huge assumptions based on one particular post. Perhaps you are only a youngster, so I will allow for the fact that perhaps you are still a little impetuous, and don't think before posting.

I have spent a couple of days reading through several of the threads here, and have found a great deal of dross, posted by people who obviously know very little about the game played in heaven, and yet still feel competent to comment on the games failings!

Far enough! But if you can't respond to comments designed to merely evoke a little discussion, without all the random and un-thought out put-downs, then why do you ever bother to put hands to keyboard?? :?: :?

snob    One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors. 
One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of taste or intellect. 

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996

Now examples of this

Hi Joker.

Obviously this is a wind-up, but simply couldn't resist

To compare the last RLWC to the RWC is so ludicrous. The Lebanese team was full of Campsie boys out for a laugh, and not a serious proposition as a team............ Remember seeing a programme on the telly over here (England) at the time about the Lebanese team, and they all had the strongest Aussie accents........ The programme then went to Lebanon, yep, you guessed it, they'd never heard of the game, let alone who the hell the players were! The New Zealand Maori team was simply the reserve team for the Kiwi firsts.........Even the Kiwi's are only second rate, as Union is completely dominant in their country...................A little embarrassing when you think of it in that light, isn't it?.......Anyway, lets see if you can manage an intelligent come back.......Perhaps you are only a youngster, so I will allow for the fact that perhaps you are still a little impetuous, and don't think before posting.

I stand by my comment your first post made you come across as a snob.

Up to you Te Kaha, although I think you are perhaps choosing to look at it from the worst possible angle. But that is your perogative. Do you often resort to the dictionary in order to get your point across? :lol: Or was that simply so you wouldn't forget the definition whilst typing your voluminous reply? ;-)

 

[Skippy1]

Australia A put 108 odd points on Canada last year, imagine what the current NZ team will do!

I'm not arguing against your overall point, but I have to speak up and qualify that result a little. The Canada team that lost to Aus A last year was weaker than it will be in the WC, because all of the professional players from Europe were missing. In the WC I believe 2 will be missing, and that's terrible, but we will still be stronger than last year. About a month after that loss to Aus A, Canada returned home, added some of the professional players, and upset Scotland in Vancouver. Also the Aus A team last year was pretty strong, with Sailor and a few others who were about to become Wallabies. This August I saw Canada lose to the Maori team by a score of something like 30-6, nothing like a 100 point loss.

Having said all that, I suppose it is possible that the All blacks will put a big score on Canada in pool play this WC.

I remember that game well. Manny Edmunds took off for France not long after and is still there, shame, we could probably have used him in the WC. But back to your point Steve; I was quite shocked at the result at the time. But looking at it in hind-sight, it wasn't surprising with the ZP still in action and the French comp. still running. Saw the game against the Scots as well. Was a good performance. The Scots are a little jaded these days though and can't be regarded as a hugely strong outfit. More impressive is the result against the Maori! These are some hardened Internationals and should be given the International status they seek in my opinion.