More mud from Jacquelin Magnay and Jessica Halloran

[wittyfan]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

Newspapers, like everything else, is a business and they do whatever stories that they think will sell well.

 

[Moggles]

As crap as thier reporting is, I believe the NRL deservers every bit of this type of journalism it gets. Maybe this type of foolish behaviour will finally be dealt with. It has been seen that this sort of behaviour has been going on for years and they have not done anything about it.. The SMH reports look bad because the fluffy dribble the News Ltd papers put out is the complete opposite extreme.

 

[ibeme]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

Newspapers, like everything else, is a business and they do whatever stories that they think will sell well.

That's fine, but if they want to attack players for not fulfilling their responsibility as professional players by not being suitable role models, then they need to look at themselves.

Their position as professional journalists for major newspapers gives them one hell of a responsibility, simply due to the size of their audiences and the influence they have. They should be acting as responsible role models for budding young journalists, and they should be a lot more accountable for what they write. There is a huge ethical responsibility that comes with being a journalist.

 

[rossy]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

If you are serious enough, find a violation of the code here http://www.alliance.org.au/hot/ethicscode.htm & then submit a complaint.

You could also try here http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/23/1058853117909.html

Of course you'll actually have to do some actual analysis and not be entirely emotional, but if you are that serious about it, then go and do something otherwise how can you expect them to learn?

 

[ibeme]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

If you are serious enough, find a violation of the code here http://www.alliance.org.au/hot/ethicscode.htm & then submit a complaint.

You could also try here http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/23/1058853117909.html

Of course you'll actually have to do some actual analysis and not be entirely emotional, but if you are that serious about it, then go and do something otherwise how can you expect them to learn?

I didn't even get past the first line:

1. Report and interpret honestly, striving for accuracy, fairness and disclosure of all essential facts. Do not suppress relevant available facts, or give distorting emphasis. Do your utmost to give a fair opportunity for reply.

3. Aim to attribute information to its source. Where a source seeks anonymity, do not agree without first considering the source’s motives and any alternative attributable source. Where confidences are accepted, respect them in all circumstances.

 

[rossy]

SO did you submit a complaint or are you just going to whinge about it?

 

[ibeme]

SO did you submit a complaint or are you just going to whinge about it?

It takes more than 30 seconds of reading to put together an effective complaint. I'll need to analyse the articles and extract what I deem to be breaches. So give me a break, I'm working on it.

Mark Waugh was interviewed today and was asked by Philip Clarke what his feelings were on all of this, considering he was a Bulldogs supporter. Mark basically said he was reserving his judgement until the facts were revealed. He said that what's been in the paper so far has just been words. When asked what he thought about the crude comments attributed to the players, he said that we don't know if it was really one of the players that said it. He said that he knows how the media worked in situations like this and that he wasn't prepared to believe anything until the facts were presented. He also said that he'll always be a Bulldogs fan. Onya Mark!

 

[iggy plop]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

Newspapers, like everything else, is a business and they do whatever stories that they think will sell well.

And thankfully the SMH doesn't sell well compared to its main rival.

 

[Rexxy]

That article is amazing. It violates all of the journalistic tenants of integrity and factual, unbiased reporting. It reads like a bad pulp story or an article in "Take 5". The writing is laughable -- unless this is an editorial, it has no place in a serious newspaper.

Newspapers, like everything else, is a business and they do whatever stories that they think will sell well.

And thankfully the SMH doesn't sell well compared to its main rival.

What are you talking about? Fairfax is an extremely profitable and prestigous corperation, with a long history of fair play and quality in journalism. More people may read the telecrap but more people believe the SMH.

The SMH and The Age are Australia's papers of record. The "rival" is just something to read for free while you're taking a crap or eating a Sausage McMuffin.

Sounds like you guys dont like what you read, so you blame the messenger.

 

[Rexxy]

:whistle :whistle :whistle

 

[hrundi99]

Rubbish Rex.

These two (and many others) have gone too far down the "Bulldogs are guilty" road already. If they are found guilty, then go for it. Until then, just report the facts.

It's a shining example to anyone who needed it that editorial media cannot be trusted as objective.

 

[Rexxy]

Do you know anything about research, checking facts, face to face interviewing, not relying on hearsay, discussing your story with an editor, having it approved by a legal department.

Maybe you think like the other Einsteins here they are in it to win a "Pulster prize". Whatever thatt is...

Or the journalists made it up because 1) they hate league 2) they hate the dogs 3) they are women. If you believe that then you believe the X Files are documentaries.

Have you ever consider for a minute canterbury, by stonewalling and defaming the victim, they are as bad as the alleged rapists themselves. Except here its truth thats being worked over by a mongrel pack.

And while you start knocking the Herlad think of this. Consentual or not, that poolside scene would have resembled Bosnia. Rough sex, including Anal sex, until an ambo had to be called.

Though it was pleasing to note Sullyfan elsewhere had no problems with a bit of rough.

Please stop blaming the big bad media, because you come across as unsophisticated hillbilly peckerheads who just learnt how to turn on a TV.

And if you think there is a conspiracy, its a wide one. Every radio station, TV station, Newspaper and Columnist has condemned the Dogs through their lkack of contrition and defiance.

Un til management fesses up and backs down, and apologises to all league fans for putting their interests ahead of the games' then we should all be singing

Lets Chuck The Dogs out Woof Woof Woof.

 

[hrundi99]

:shock:

I really can't believe you have such a righteous opinion of the media.

If they're stereotyping Arabs, then you're all over them.

They've stopped short of naming names, but that's about it. The Bulldogs are not being defiant and they've no reason to show contrition until the players are found guilty in a court of law, or guilty of defying NRL/club rules.

If you can provide a quote from the Bulldogs organisation where they've defamed the "victim", then i'd love to see it.

Mass media legal departments know exactly how close they can come to crossing the line and spend their whole time staying just on the right side of it in this type of scenario.

Do you work for Fairfax or something? The Herald is just as capable as the "Telecrap" of misleading the public.

 

[iggy plop]

Do you know anything about research, checking facts, face to face interviewing, not relying on hearsay, discussing your story with an editor, having it approved by a legal department.

.

Have you ever heard of Stephen Glass?? He was supposed to have done all that as well.

Anyway, we are not stupid. The terrible twins have been sticking the boot into league long before the current drama. Just read Fitzsimons' work too.

The paper has had an agenda for a while now.

 

[iggy plop]

Bulldogs dress casual for police formalities
By Jacquelin Magnay, Les Kennedy and Juan-Carlo Tomas
March 4, 2004

"They turned up in thongs, T-shirts, caps and sun visors. In groups of four, the Bulldogs players were escorted by legal counsel into the Sydney Police Centre yesterday, dressed as though they were stopping off on the way from Belmore to Bondi.

If this had been a judiciary hearing, the players would have been immaculately groomed.

With no club or sponsor's logos in sight, the casual approach seemed at odds with the serious nature of the event that had brought them there - the investigation of claims that up to six of their teammates may have been involved in the sexual assault of a woman at Coffs Harbour on February 22."

More biased crap from Magney. The boot just sinks further in.

Is this objective reporting?? I thought general news stories were supposed to be devoid of this bullshit.

Onviously not when it's a Magney or Halloran story involving rugby league.

 

[bartman]

This is getting a bit boring people. It's like you just realised that journalists and papers (and other media) aren't just reporting facts to you? HELLO!! Welcome to the real world. Everything has a spin. :evil:

Do you think the political reporters on TV, in the papers and on radio are telling it straight down the line too? (Hello Alan Jones. Hello John Laws. etc) Or will you only realise the media isn't fair when an issue that you feel strongly about is reported upside down and back to front. :roll:

These two reporters are just doing their jobs. Sure, it's a crap job to do, just like being a real estate agent imo, but there's no need to single these two journalists out. They're no different to anyone else involved in papers, radio, or TV. They do what they are told, which is based on what the bosses want, or think will be what most people want.

What we do need is for the investigation to conclude soon, so there are FACTS out there for the media to report, rather than write all their space filling stuff. And for league players, clubs, fans, and officials to work together in the future to NOT have these alleged situations which result in this type of reporting anyway!

 

[iggy plop]

whatever :sleeper:

 

[brook]

Bulldogs dress casual for police formalities
By Jacquelin Magnay, Les Kennedy and Juan-Carlo Tomas
March 4, 2004

"They turned up in thongs, T-shirts, caps and sun visors. In groups of four, the Bulldogs players were escorted by legal counsel into the Sydney Police Centre yesterday, dressed as though they were stopping off on the way from Belmore to Bondi.

If this had been a judiciary hearing, the players would have been immaculately groomed.

With no club or sponsor's logos in sight, the casual approach seemed at odds with the serious nature of the event that had brought them there - the investigation of claims that up to six of their teammates may have been involved in the sexual assault of a woman at Coffs Harbour on February 22."

More biased crap from Magney. The boot just sinks further in.

Is this objective reporting?? I thought general news stories were supposed to be devoid of this bullsh*t.

Onviously not when it's a Magney or Halloran story involving rugby league.

The telegraph ran a similar story

why aren't people jumping up and down about that?

 

[bartman]

Exactly. I thinks it's just some fans of a certain club looking anywhere convenient to direct their blame.

When the league, clubs, and players clean up this alleged crap and stop it from allegedly happening, the Herald (and Telegraph) will stop writing about it. Simple.

Yeah, whatever :lol:

 

[RB30DETT]

So the "Bun" girl had her hair up in a "bun"?????