Move all club games to ANZ like the AFL do with games at the MCG?

[thorson1987]

I don't know about you guys but I would rather watch or play at a sold out suburban ground then at Anz with the same amount of people. Nothing beats the atmosphere at a packed suburban ground. (besides ANZ for S.O.O or the GF.)

 

[little_aza]

Sydney's most valuable asset in my opinion is the fact that it has suburban grounds. You go into a specific area, and they're mad for THEIR team.

The situation for the AFL in Melbourne is quite different, as the teams are dotted around the CBD, and clubs really don't have fortress suburbs like in the NRL. Etihad and the MCG are so accessible too, as Melbourne's public transport to the city, and the roads to the city make the CBD very easy to get to. Sydney's road network is rubbish, and ANZ is miles from the city, and SFS is miles and miles from places like Penrith of Campbelltown. Melbourne also benefits from the shape of the Bay essentially allows suburbs to radiate in almost every direction from the CBD, allowing the population to reside closer to the city than in Sydney where suburbs can really only cost west of the coast, making it so much more spread out.

The suburban derby adds so much to the NRL, and is something that would take away a lot from the game if lost. In a perfect world, we'd be able to afford to have high-quality boutique stadiums in the suburbs, with decent roads and public transport to all. But playing everything at ANZ isn't the answer.

 

[*Paul*]

It's Stadium Australia, had to think a moment trying to remember what ANZ referred to (this week anyway).

Anyway, AFL fans are willing to front up on gamedays, we're not (even allowing for the advances of the last 20-25 years)

 

[franklin2323]

It's Stadium Australia, had to think a moment trying to remember what ANZ referred to (this week anyway).

Anyway, AFL fans are willing to front up on gamedays, we're not (even allowing for the advances of the last 20-25 years)

Yes but they have purpose built grounds. We played a home game their in 2004 it was rubbish I couldn't see much terrible atmosphere I wouyld of rathered Gosford or even SFS. Other than finals 80k is too big.

Put the SFS there it would work location is decent enough just poor to view and terrible when empty I would rather all seats gone in 20k staduim then 25% full in an 80k ground

 

[hellteam]

I cannot understand this fascination with crowd figures.


Watch the footy and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

It means a lot. Especially when players like Hayne and Smith are bitching because they don't get enough money. They need to realise that AFL makes a LOT more money then the NRL, and a lot of that can be put down to the fact that their crowd averages and memberships are miles ahead of the NRL.

 

[Slackboy72]

Look I can see where the OP is coming from but the reason the MCG and Docklands work for AFL is that ticket prices are cheap, transport is cheap and convenient and support in Melbourne isn't so localised.
Until Sydney's transport system gets upgraded to something comparable to the rest of the first world the small grounds are leagues best option in Sydney.

 

[btaag]

Great to see the post has generated some debate (obviosly stats can be manipulated, but just throwing it out there). Funnily enough the same post had a luke warm response on the Parramatta forum - maybe us Eels fans struggle with statistics, analysis and language more generally.... (and I thought our simple Parra...Parra... chant was the popular because it took us back to our Golden Era!).

I totally agree with the person suggesting that if we had a Lang Park/Suncorp Stadium instead of ANZ, people would be more inclined to watch games there....

 

[Parra]

It means a lot. Especially when players like Hayne and Smith are bitching because they don't get enough money. They need to realise that AFL makes a LOT more money then the NRL, and a lot of that can be put down to the fact that their crowd averages and memberships are miles ahead of the NRL.

The sort of money those guys are after will not come from gate receipts or from handing the players the cash from the BBQ each week. There is one source for the money required at that level - television.

I hear radio reports now where all that is reported is the scoreline and the crowd figure. Nothing else, eg parramatta beat manly tonight in front of 15,000 fans. Now this is useful for idiots who punt on crowd figures, but is entirely useless information for everyone else.

Atmosphere is great - but you don't need statistics for that. You need enthusiastic fans and true home grounds.

I can understand why the marketing managers, stadium managers & caterers are fascinated by crowd figures. For everyone else it is just a sheep mentality.

 

[skeepe]

Moving all club games to ANZ would be pretty rough on Raiders, Storm, Broncos, Knights, Titans, Cowboys and Warriors fans.

 

[hellteam]

The sort of money those guys are after will not come from gate receipts or from handing the players the cash from the BBQ each week. There is one source for the money required at that level - television.

I hear radio reports now where all that is reported is the scoreline and the crowd figure. Nothing else, eg parramatta beat manly tonight in front of 15,000 fans. Now this is useful for idiots who punt on crowd figures, but is entirely useless information for everyone else.

Atmosphere is great - but you don't need statistics for that. You need enthusiastic fans and true home grounds.

I can understand why the marketing managers, stadium managers & caterers are fascinated by crowd figures. For everyone else it is just a sheep mentality.

You do realise people pay money to go to the footy don't you?

 

[Parra]

You do realise people pay money to go to the footy don't you?

Thanks for the heads up. Next you'll tell me they pay 10 grand each to go and that there is no expenses involved.


Rather than believe the poor-little-rich-boy stories from spoiled brats you might question why over 90% of the income generated in the game is pissed away on things other than player payments?

Or is it easier to go along with the crowd and accept that all the coat-pullers, hangers-on and administrators some how deserve their cash grab? There is so much cash in this sport that is siphoned off and wasted by greedy pricks. And I am not talking about players.

The fans are not to blame.

 

[btaag]

Moving all club games to ANZ would be pretty rough on Raiders, Storm, Broncos, Knights, Titans, Cowboys and Warriors fans.

Nice call - would never dare to take games away from Canberra - hopefully Australia can host the 2022 Football World Cup and Canberra can have a new Stadium built - along with internal heating! I was always freezing at League games played at Bruce when I lived there

 

[ThinkOfTheChildren]

Melbourne and Sydney are EXACTLY the same! Thank goodness this has been recognised. Whilst a 100000 flock to an AFL local derby, 15000 fall over themselves for a view of a game of rugby league!

There is nothing quite like the vibe of an ANZ crowd with 16000, or could it be 17500. Magic! This is the raison de "frog" we need someone of your ilk in charge of rugby league.

 

[btaag]

Melbourne and Sydney are EXACTLY the same! Thank goodness this has been recognised. Whilst a 100000 flock to an AFL local derby, 15000 fall over themselves for a view of a game of rugby league!

There is nothing quite like the vibe of an ANZ crowd with 16000, or could it be 17500. Magic! This is the raison de "frog" we need someone of your ilk in charge of rugby league.

Nice pseudo intellectual post.. Love 'raison de "frog", even if I don't get it.

PS - good luck to the 1000000 Melbournians flocking to a local derby.

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

Nice pseudo intellectual post.. Love 'raison de "frog", even if I don't get it.

PS - good luck to the 1000000 Melbournians flocking to a local derby.

lol

rl crowds continue to grow, albeit slowly.

I agree with the original intent of this thread: move to more comfortable and larger stadia.

There was an smh article in the past few days that showed statistics to support this. For the life of me I dont know why someone didnt put it up on here.

Its clear, people like modern stadia. Moving to them is happening right now.

But moving ALL games just now might not be such a great idea. I would support between 50-75%.

 

[ThinkOfTheChildren]

Nice pseudo intellectual post.. Love 'raison de "frog", even if I don't get it.

PS - good luck to the 1000000 Melbournians flocking to a local derby.

google it: reason for being

 

[Fui!!!]

CANTERBURY chief executive Todd Greenberg claims the idea of the Bulldogs playing at Belmore is from a bygone era, with the club adamant its playing future is at ANZ Stadium.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...aying-at-belmore/story-e6frexnr-1225869795796