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Napa sin bin

What should the refs have done?

  • Send-off

    Votes: 39 36.4%
  • Sin-bin

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • On report and penalty

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Scrum to roosters

    Votes: 33 30.8%

  • Total voters
    107

TheVelourFog

First Grade
Messages
5,061
the still is misleading, if you watch the actual footage from behind Sims he shifts at the last second

should have been a penalty and on report nothing more
 

veggiepatch1959

First Grade
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9,841
If he looked at all like he was trying to make a proper tackle, then I can understand people saying it was just a head clash. But the guy sprinted out of the line with his arms not even in front of his body. If he had intent to make a proper tackle, his arms wouldn't have been like that at the point of contact. It was absolutely reckless contact with the head at worst and deserved to be sent off.
Do you run with your arms out in front of your body?

Try it one day and see how difficult it is.
 

Danish

Referee
Messages
32,016
If he looked at all like he was trying to make a proper tackle, then I can understand people saying it was just a head clash. But the guy sprinted out of the line with his arms not even in front of his body. If he had intent to make a proper tackle, his arms wouldn't have been like that at the point of contact. It was absolutely reckless contact with the head at worst and deserved to be sent off.

I’m curious to know where you think a player’s arms should be at the point of impact if not outstretched and wrapping round
 

hellteam

First Grade
Messages
6,535
This is copy and pasted directly from the NRL Laws and Interpretations 2018. I understand this might not have been used before this season until last night, but its certainly relevant in this case. Hopefully they keep using it like that.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf


Sin Bin
The six main reasons for a player to be temporarily suspended for ten minutes are:
1. Repeated infringements
2. Professional Foul
3. Cooling off period for a player
4. Dissent
5. Striking
6. Foul Play* * Foul Play – A player will be sin binned for foul play in circumstances where, in the opinion of the Referee, the foul play does not warrant sending off, but is serious enough to place the player on report, and the player injured from the foul play is unlikely to take any further part in the game.
 

AlwaysGreen

Post Whore
Messages
50,125
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2018.pdf


Sin Bin
The six main reasons for a player to be temporarily suspended for ten minutes are:
1. Repeated infringements
2. Professional Foul
3. Cooling off period for a player
4. Dissent
5. Striking
6. Foul Play* * Foul Play – A player will be sin binned for foul play in circumstances where, in the opinion of the Referee, the foul play does not warrant sending off, but is serious enough to place the player on report, and the player injured from the foul play is unlikely to take any further part in the game.
What's this mean?
 

aqua_duck

Coach
Messages
18,629
Napa escaped without charge from match review committee. NRL need to either come out and say officials got it horribly wrong with the sin binning and reprimand all involved or declare that from now on all careless high tackles, dangerous contact, shoulder charge, crusher tackle, chicken wing, etc is now a mandatory sin bin, need some clarity
 

Valheru

Coach
Messages
19,172
I also find it funny the people trying to compare what Napa did with what Opacic did, Napa went flying in head first and connected with Sims head, now sure he didn’t intend to hit him like that but he did, Opacic on the other hand went for a low tackle and got his head in the wrong spot, completely different

Either leading and making first contact with your head is inherently dangerous and reckless or it isn't. If so, Opacic should have been penalised and binned too.

If not inherently dangerous and reckless then it comes down to the point of contact which, in the case of Napa, was the opponent's head and a penalty would have been sufficient in line with other high tackles.

You can't have it both ways.
 

Barkley

Bench
Messages
2,576
Not being charged is the correct decision. Glad the NRL got that one right. Now for them to grow some balls and reprimand poor officiating.
 

Tommy Smith

Referee
Messages
21,344
Either leading and making first contact with your head is inherently dangerous and reckless or it isn't. If so, Opacic should have been penalised and binned too.

If not inherently dangerous and reckless then it comes down to the point of contact which, in the case of Napa, was the opponent's head and a penalty would have been sufficient in line with other high tackles.

You can't have it both ways.
Tell that to the NRL.

I reckon it's the refs slogan.
 

The_Shield

Juniors
Messages
1,895
Either leading and making first contact with your head is inherently dangerous and reckless or it isn't. If so, Opacic should have been penalised and binned too.

If not inherently dangerous and reckless then it comes down to the point of contact which, in the case of Napa, was the opponent's head and a penalty would have been sufficient in line with other high tackles.

You can't have it both ways.
Do you think everybody that lifts a leg should get suspended like Cameron Smith?
 

The_Shield

Juniors
Messages
1,895
Yes. If they lift and spread the legs with the aim to injure the player like your little Cammy did.
Cam lifted the leg then Scott wrapped around the other leg forcing Proctor down then Smith let go, all this happened in just a couple of seconds and your completely convinced Smith was intentionally trying to injure Proctor, but Napa dives headfirst into Sims connects head to head and knock him out and it’s nothing in it. Napa had more intent to hurt someone then Smith
 

aqua_duck

Coach
Messages
18,629
Cam lifted the leg then Scott wrapped around the other leg forcing Proctor down then Smith let go, all this happened in just a couple of seconds and your completely convinced Smith was intentionally trying to injure Proctor, but Napa dives headfirst into Sims connects head to head and knock him out and it’s nothing in it. Napa had more intent to hurt someone then Smith
Match review committee obviously did not agree with you
 

Barkley

Bench
Messages
2,576
Cam lifted the leg then Scott wrapped around the other leg forcing Proctor down then Smith let go, all this happened in just a couple of seconds and your completely convinced Smith was intentionally trying to injure Proctor, but Napa dives headfirst into Sims connects head to head and knock him out and it’s nothing in it. Napa had more intent to hurt someone then Smith
Yep...now you’re getting it.

Cammy intended to hurt Proctor and is missing a week, should have been 4.

Napa’s was a head clash and was cleared of any wrongdoing.
 

Unscrupulous

Bench
Messages
2,796
Should have been a scrum with Napa off for a HIA. The talk of deliberately leading with your head in that fashion is so ridiculously out of sync with reality that funnily enough it's making my head hurt. Not even Napa is dumb enough to try something that dangerous to himself. Basically the Rugby League equivalent of a Kamikaze or suicide bomber.
 

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