Nathan Fien

[Slippery Morris]

For a player that is supposedly out of form and over the hill he is not doing too bad for a 34 year old who played hooker past few years and has only played in the halves on a more regular basis this season. Not sure why he cops such a bagging from some people on this forum when he is doing a great job and most of all is the only one taht takes on the line in the halves and not afraid to get tackled. Stats below just show that he is equal to Foran in try assists and one behind Reynolds and Pearce.

Top 20 Try Assists

13 C. Cronk
10 J. Thurston
9 R. Farah
8 A. Reynolds
8 L. Walsh
8 M. Pearce
8 J. Mullen
7 J. McCrone
7 K. Foran
7 P. Wallace
7 N. Fien

• 7 C. Sandow

 

[Minh]

He still goes alright but it is not a good decision to keep playing him if we are looking to be strong the future.

 

[BennyV]

Interesting....out of curiosity, what classifies as a try assist? Do you have to throw the last pass, or be involved in the lead up work? Is it a subjective thing - i.e. some statistician will observe each try and say 'player x assisted in creating the try'?

My issue with Fiensy is purely his speed, he gets caught out in defence (should be moved closer to the middle) and doesnt move quick enough in attack for the opposition to be too concerned - i.e. they are able to read whether or not he will pass, and to whom he will pass it. Watched an interview with Carney on Sterlo the other week, very interesting how he broke down every short side play and why he made certain decisions on who to pass to; its an unpredictability our halves lack at the moment.

That said, Fiensy is often trying things and putting the effort in. Hat's off to him!

 

[FundyDragon]

For a player that is supposedly out of form and over the hill he is not doing too bad for a 34 year old who played hooker past few years and has only played in the halves on a more regular basis this season. Not sure why he cops such a bagging from some people on this forum when he is doing a great job and most of all is the only one taht takes on the line in the halves and not afraid to get tackled. Stats below just show that he is equal to Foran in try assists and one behind Reynolds and Pearce.

Top 20 Try Assists

13 C. Cronk
10 J. Thurston
9 R. Farah
8 A. Reynolds
8 L. Walsh
8 M. Pearce
8 J. Mullen
7 J. McCrone
7 K. Foran
7 P. Wallace
7 N. Fien

• 7 C. Sandow

Interesting stats

 

[st.phil]

Is there a try bombed stat? He might be toward the top of that chart...

 

[coast_dragons]

Still better than Sowards efforts.

 

[Saint Anger]

Speed is the main objective here.

While Fieny tries his guts out each week, he just can't match his speed to his dedication. Everything happens in bullet time and his plays are usually nullified because of this.

We need a half with speed and instinct.

 

[Dr Fruitbasket Returns]

Hero of 2010. He's not responsible for recruitment or roster management and it's not his fault that at 34 he's first choice halfback and not playing the sort of 2009 Priddis role he'd be perfectly suited for. Not a bad word for him. If anything, he's even more of a legend for taking on the thankless responsibility that's been foisted on him. There are more than a few players in the 25 at the moment who just aren't good enough to wear the jersey. Fien has earned the right to wear it with pride.

 

[Mr Red]

Is there a try bombed stat? He might be toward the top of that chart...

yep exactly.
i would also be interested in seeing kicking metres gained and line breaks.

is there also a hospital pass stat?

 

[Owen Da Saints]

So Sandow has set up more tries than Soward ?
Robbie Farah has set up more tries than BOTH our halves ...... AND THEY ARE COMING LAST ! :crazy:
Also highlights how bad a season Benji is having !

 

[Minh]

Benji has been a passenger this year.

 

[Creaghzy dragon]

Put at least 2 more assists down for him, the storm managed to get 2 tries off fiens kicks inside our 20

 

[FundyDragon]

What about the 'should of won but didn't' stat!!

 

[The Enforcer]

Interesting....out of curiosity, what classifies as a try assist? Do you have to throw the last pass, or be involved in the lead up work? Is it a subjective thing - i.e. some statistician will observe each try and say 'player x assisted in creating the try'?

My issue with Fiensy is purely his speed, he gets caught out in defence (should be moved closer to the middle) and doesnt move quick enough in attack for the opposition to be too concerned - i.e. they are able to read whether or not he will pass, and to whom he will pass it. Watched an interview with Carney on Sterlo the other week, very interesting how he broke down every short side play and why he made certain decisions on who to pass to; its an unpredictability our halves lack at the moment.

That said, Fiensy is often trying things and putting the effort in. Hat's off to him!

Yeah i wouldn't have picked him to be up the list of TA's, so maybe calling out " go Nighty " is classified as a TA ?

 

[Slippery Morris]

Fiensy would easily be up in the top 5 players for the Dragons this season. Especially based on effort. He gives it all every game.
Good post Dr Fruitbasket.

 

[possm]

Benji has been a passenger this year.

I wonder if Benji and Soward have the same mind-set at the moment.

Soward looking forward to a new start a Penrith with Gus next year and
Benji looking forward to a new start at the Dragons with Sheens next year.

Oh the pain each week. When will they all realise; the only problem is Price.

 

[CarssDragon]

Hero of 2010. He's not responsible for recruitment or roster management and it's not his fault that at 34 he's first choice halfback and not playing the sort of 2009 Priddis role he'd be perfectly suited for. Not a bad word for him. If anything, he's even more of a legend for taking on the thankless responsibility that's been foisted on him. There are more than a few players in the 25 at the moment who just aren't good enough to wear the jersey. Fien has earned the right to wear it with pride.

Very accurate evaluation in my opinion. Not opposed to the idea of him sticking around another year (who knows how the search for a halfback will go) although probably hard to find that 'Priddis' role for him now Rein has re-signed. Between Rein, King, Garvey we should have hooker covered for a few years.

 

[mmap dragons]

Hero of 2010. He's not responsible for recruitment or roster management and it's not his fault that at 34 he's first choice halfback and not playing the sort of 2009 Priddis role he'd be perfectly suited for. Not a bad word for him. If anything, he's even more of a legend for taking on the thankless responsibility that's been foisted on him. There are more than a few players in the 25 at the moment who just aren't good enough to wear the jersey. Fien has earned the right to wear it with pride.

Well said. The bloke busts his ass every weekend and after all he is 34 and gives away a number of years to most other number 7's in the comp. Very loyal player who wears the Red V with pride.

 

[coast_dragons]

Benji at the Dragons haha then Sheens even more histerics possm lay off the wacky stuff you wank.

 

[redbreed]

Its interesting how some players get leeway on this forum and others don't. I think every player has been busting there guts so far this year. The only exception would be Soward but for all I know he's probably doing what his been told.