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New Hitch for Titans - And it's not Isaac's shoulder

nqboy

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http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,22049,21092314-5006066,00.html

THE Steve Turner saga has taken another twist with one of the players involved in a proposed transfer to the Gold Coast Titans troubled by a potentially serious injury to his shoulder. Titans management has asked Storm rookie Smith Samau to visit a Melbourne specialist on Tuesday to determine whether he requires a shoulder reconstruction.

Smith, 20, and Daniel Isaac, 19, are the two Queensland-born juniors nominated to join the Titans as compensation for Turner remaining at the Storm. But the swap threatens to turn pear-shaped, with the Titans insisting they will not accept Samau - if he requires immediate surgery. The fullback or winger damaged his left shoulder, which had been operated upon previously, after a wrestling session at Storm training a fortnight ago.

Gold Coast coach John Cartwright said: "If he had any reconstructive surgery we'd have to talk about the situation. We're not going to take a bloke who's going to be out for the season, put it that way. Smith has to see a specialist this weekand their surgeon will then report to our doctor.''

Samau's manager, Chris Orr, said his client was hopeful of joining the Gold Coast. "If he's 100 per cent he'll go ... but no club wants to buy a player that is going to play two games and do his shoulder,'' Orr said. "He visited the Titans the other day. He was a bit tentative but after meeting John Cartwright he could see the pathway to first grade is a positive one.''

Cartwright is impressed with the two juniors. The strongly-built Samau made his NRL debut against Manly last year, while Isaac is a 92kg centre or winger who represented the Australian Schoolboys last year.

"Both guys have a lot of potential,'' he said. "Daniel Isaac played a lot of Colts in Brisbane last year and I monitored him closely. He's an Australian Schoolboy and very strong. Smith has played first grade at only 20, so he's definitely got his best footy in front of him.''

It's turning into Days of our Drearies.
 

Ice777

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Well if true, this will yet again underline the inept and unprofessional ways the Titanics run their business, fair dinkum it's like watching amatuer hour sometimes. Why or more so how could anyone agree to a deal such as this without putting the players through full physicals or at the very LEAST question the players on any injuries they may have or have had is the past.

I can just hear the Storm knockers now "Well they should've divulged the info if it's true" If you think this is true can you tell me why? The Titanics asked for 2 players without obviously any conditions and the Storm gave them. The onus isn't on the Storm to say anything that all falls to the Titanics, cavat emptor and all that.

Do you buy a house without getting a full inspection and buliding report? Do you buy a car without taking it for a test drive and getting it checked out from the RACV or whatever it's called in your state? Hell you don't even buy a racehorse without getting a full medical for it and a professional sportsman is exactly the same thing.

I hope there turns out to be no truth to this as i just want an end to this drawn out saga once and for all. But if it is true, Searle made a verbal agreement to release Turner to the Storm for Smith Samau and Daniel Isaacs and it's been drummed into our heads a million times that a verbal contract is legally binding. With that being the case, does that mean everyone who's been advocating so strongly for Turner to either sit out his contract or honour in with the Tits because the verbal agrement, that i can assume that if Searle goes back on his legally binding verbal agreement that you'll be in the Storm's corner this time? Did he make it with any condition on the palyers fitness? Will you be jumping on our side now? Nah i didn't think so :lol:
 
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I agree..taking the Storm bias away if I was GC then why did they not get a fitness assessment completed before agreeing on these players.

You do now have to question the way that GC are conducting their dealings ??.
 

Rage

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oh crap here we go again...

i hope the kid's alright for his sake and i hope his alright for all the fans sakes too. i'm sure no one else wants to read about another ceo sparing match. well if this deal does go sour they better figure out another option soon, trials start in under 4 weeks.
 
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Rage said:
oh crap here we go again...

i hope the kid's alright for his sake and i hope his alright for all the fans sakes too. i'm sure no one else wants to read about another ceo sparing match. well if this deal does go sour they better figure out another option soon, trials start in under 4 weeks.

No other options...the soap opera has ended !! ;-)
 

McCrud

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You can only imagine the slapstick comedy as both camps scramble to examine the finer detail in this latest contract (or maybe it was a verbal....).
 

_Johnsy

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Ice777 said:
The Titanics asked for 2 players without obviously any conditions and the Storm gave them.

I am amazed Ice knows all the finer details of the negotiations.
 

Red Bear

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lol @ gold coast mach 4. Going the way of every other sporting team to exist on the Gold Coast?
 

Ice777

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_Johnsy said:
I am amazed Ice knows all the finer details of the negotiations.


I never professed to know the finer details but f it turns out to be true, anyone with half a brain would see there obviously weren't any conditions/stipulations in regards to the taking/not taking players with injuries. By what's been reported it doesn't sound like the Tits said "We'll only take these players on the condition they're both physically sound" does it? If the final decision was pending on that the Tits would've given them proper physicals as i dare say any other club would've, hence why i said no conditions. I'm sorry if you never understood what i meant , i'll dumb it down for you a bit next time so you can take it in ;-)
 

_Johnsy

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It is there in black and white, "Titanics asked for 2 players without obviously any conditions and the Storm gave them. "

You obviously knew or you just made it up to suit your argument. Which is it ?

"By what's been reported it doesn't sound like the Tits said "We'll only take these players on the condition they're both physically sound" does it?"

So know it is by what has been reported ??? It doesn't sound like .......... you have no credibility when discussing this subject. You are squirming around your take on what has been reported and making up claims that relate to the contracts/negotiations.

there is no need to dumb it down for me, you have dumbed it down enough for everyone.
 

stuke

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GoTheBears said:
lol @ gold coast mach 4. Going the way of every other sporting team to exist on the Gold Coast?

as soon as they put Lomu in a helicopter you just knew, didn't you.....
 

Ice777

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_Johnsy said:
It is there in black and white, "Titanics asked for 2 players without obviously any conditions and the Storm gave them. "

You obviously knew or you just made it up to suit your argument. Which is it ?

"By what's been reported it doesn't sound like the Tits said "We'll only take these players on the condition they're both physically sound" does it?"

So know it is by what has been reported ??? It doesn't sound like .......... you have no credibility when discussing this subject. You are squirming around your take on what has been reported and making up claims that relate to the contracts/negotiations.

there is no need to dumb it down for me, you have dumbed it down enough for everyone.


Errr whatever you say johnsy. As i already stated i never professed to know the ins and outs of the negotiations and if you got that impression so be it. I'm not making them up, i'm giving my opinion based on what i get from the reports. To me it's obvious the Titans never stipulated the players must take a full physical to see if they were sound, they may have but surely they would've either come out and said that was part of the terms.

IF on the other hand it was a part of the terms but they never announced it, then at the very least you would've thought they'd have the players shecked out behind closed doors so to speak before anything was announced. Once again that's my take on it, if you think differently that's fine i certainly wouldn't expect an ally in you. What's obvious to some may not be so obvious to others.
 

Perth Red

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If he's 100 per cent he'll go ... but no club wants to buy a player that is going to play two games and do his shoulder,''

Doesn't sound like Benji will ever be signing for the GC!
 

nqboy

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LOL at icy assumptions. You're spot on the money Johnsy. Because it's not mentioned in the article (a News article no less, Who bankrolls the Drizzle again? Oh yeah, that's right, News etc), it can't be. Going off so early Ice, you must be a terrible disappointment to your boyfriend.
 

nqboy

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_Johnsy said:
I agree lotti, however common sense does not always prevail on these forums.
Sorry, did I miss something? Did lotti say something sensible that people can agree with? Good thing I'm sitting down.
 

Vicious

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Daniel Isaac is a hot young prospect and it wouldn`t be too far fetched to suggest that he might be good enough to play 1st grade this season. If he`s happy to go to the Gold Coast, why don`t they just cop it on the chin and move on ???
 

nqboy

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Vicious said:
Daniel Isaac is a hot young prospect and it wouldn`t be too far fetched to suggest that he might be good enough to play 1st grade this season. If he`s happy to go to the Gold Coast, why don`t they just cop it on the chin and move on ???
Wasn't he the one the Drizzle fans were laughing had a bung shoulder?
 

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