New rape allegation

[JK]

More mud on our code

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/National/story_55245.asp

No one named, 'victim' only identified as 'j'

Yet reported as fact.

Even the comment the other day from the Bulldogs was 'anonymous' :roll:

Everyone is having a dig now...

 

[sydraider]

Did you read that though, she did not report it to police due to her parents being strict catholics, then whats the difference in reporting it now, did her parents change faith all of a sudden?????
Are they now satanists hell bent on revenge????

 

[Pierced Soul]

yeah everyone will be crawling out of the cupboard with stories now.....

 

[bayrep]

Did you read that though, she did not report it to police due to her parents being strict catholics, then whats the difference in reporting it now, did her parents change faith all of a sudden?????
Are they now satanists hell bent on revenge????

Such a bad reply sydraider. Just because it happened 20yrs ago doesnt make it any less of a horrendous act. Even coming out with it now would have been pretty gutsy for the woman. Though I would say that nothing will come of it if the trend continues.

 

[supersoniceagle]

That story sounds like absolute rubbish

 

[sydraider]

Such a bad reply sydraider. Just because it happened 20yrs ago doesnt make it any less of a horrendous act. Even coming out with it now would have been pretty gutsy for the woman. Though I would say that nothing will come of it if the trend continues.

I dont come here to please people, i have my own mind and my own opinions and i have a right to it. Sorry if i offended you but i think 20 years after the alleged fact is a damned joke.Their is a system in place to be utilised, she could have done so.

 

[PB]

its a terrible thing to happen to her, but shouldnt be used in the context of this case, in terms of comparing culture of professional rugby league players with sex crimes, as it happened 20 years ago and possibly not by full time players. So it is still a horrible problem, but i don't see many parrallels between it and the Bulldogs saga.

 

[mud n blood]

Were they Brisbane footballers or a Sydney team up here supposedly ?

 

[brook]

It didn't mention any specifics about the players.

Look there is no evidence here to judge if this happened or not, it may be that the woman is using the current media frenzy to gain attention but it equally could be a simple case of the current case giving her the courage to come forward with her story, I doubt we'll ever know as far too much time has passed for their to be much of a chance that charges will be laid.

The length of time elapsed doesn't automatically mean that her story is untrue though - the vast majority of rapes are never reported to anyone and 20 years ago the system was much less supportive of victims than it is today.

 

[ibeme]

This is a bit tricky.

Whilst I realise the gravity of these claims, I'm not sure if I support her for coming out now unless she's willing to pursue the matter via the appropriate channels ie. lay charges. There needs to be some accountability for making these sort of claims, to prevent false claims being made. We need to be encouraging victims to pursue these matters in court.

It's never too late to lay charges.

 

[brook]

It's never too late to lay charges.

In theory it isn't

In practice its usually hard to get enough evidence to lay charges for assults that happened yesterday let alone 20 years ago.

I'm not going to worry too much about this story - If its true my heart goes out to the woman concerned and I hope she has managed to move on with her life but as far as impact to the game goes the media are not going to dwell on something that happened 20 years and which there is unlikely to be any proof about

 

[gaterooze]

And it has nothing to do with the current case, so it's a little ludicrous for reporters to try and make some sort of link. It doesn't sound like they were even professional players, just local lads (and evil bastards if what she says is true).

But as for the media... geeze, give it a rest. A plumber killed someone last week, and another plumber killed someone twenty years ago -- should we make a vague insinuation that plumbers are generally murderers?

It's just getting silly now.

 

[brook]

But as for the media... geeze, give it a rest. A plumber killed someone last week, and another plumber killed someone twenty years ago -- should we make a vague insinuation that plumbers are generally murderers?

It's just getting silly now.

agreed!

 

[JK]

I agree with the point that if she now has the courage to bring it up JJJ isn't the place for it - the nearest police station is.

By going to the media she makes it to easy to dismiss her case if a case exists.

 

[*trojan*]

The point this woman is making is that there was a culture of objectifying women 20 years ago, and there is a culture of objectifying women now. Regardless of whether the sex was consensual, why did they *allegedly* do it? I'm 99% sure players who go out after any match in any city aren't thinking "wow, this girl is gorgeous, she's such a nice person, I'd really like to get to know her better."

 

[melon....]

This case, if true, whilst being regrettable, has no relevance to the current Bulldogs case.

 

[brook]

I'm 99% sure players who go out after any match in any city aren't thinking "wow, this girl is gorgeous, she's such a nice person, I'd really like to get to know her better."

oh come on

I'm sure 90% of MEN who go out clubbing in the city are not thinking that - football players or otherwise (for that matter the vast majority of girls aren't either - people who go to clubs to pick up are not generally looking for a life partner)

I actually do think the game could do more to address a problem with the way women are treated/perceived by those involved in league - but objectifying women is hardly something thats unique to the code and I don't really see a problem with single players going out to pick up women as long as a) its consensual and b) they behave themselves while out (as for the non-single players...well thats between them and their partners although I don't approve its hardly a major crisis either)

 

[*trojan*]

Oh come on!! Is this a forum for Rugby League or society? 90% of MEN aren't representing a club and a game and a business venture when they're out on the p*ss. If 90% of men go out and get laid on a weekly basis, it doens't make national news and there are no threats of fines for bringing anything into disrepute.

 

[Igor]

Oh come on!! Is this a forum for Rugby League or society? 90% of MEN aren't representing a club and a game and a business venture when they're out on the p*ss. If 90% of men go out and get laid on a weekly basis, it doens't make national news and there are no threats of fines for bringing anything into disrepute.

Wrong, on most counts. Firstly this is a current (though saddening) issue in RL today. Also, of course your behaviour outside of "work" can directly affect your suitability for continued employment in a profession. Many careers are seen as 24 hour a day prospects. Especially highly-paid, high- profile positions auch as elite atheletes. Even "regular Joe's" surely must consider their actions, be it getting p*ssed or laid (or whatever "group" activities they enjoy) and the image they are portraying and how that can reflect on their employer. These blokes have tarnished the image of their club and the sport (even if their only crime is a lack of common sense).

 

[*trojan*]

My point is that 'average joes' have less chance of being found out of any indescretion then elite sportspeople. Most 'average joes' don't wear badges on their chests saying "I work for so & so" on a Saturday night on the p*ss, and really, is it newsworthy that 'average joe' likes gang bangs? In professions that don't generate media interest, it's alot easier to draw the line between private lives and professional lives. Society is interetsted in every aspect of well known peoples lives, as has been demonstrated by this issue.