New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Perth Red]

Not a chance in hell.

It's an election year with a "cost of living crisis" and a fair chance of a recession coming.

Getting more tourists visit might not be a bad thing then? Probably only cost $20mill to get the whole thing there. Or maybe the Aus govt will sponsor to have some games in Fihji and PNG as well. Times tight on this one. Watch the fckwits scrap it.

 

[Te Kaha]

Getting more tourists visit might not be a bad thing then? Probably only cost $20mill to get the whole thing there. Or maybe the Aus govt will sponsor to have some games in Fihji and PNG as well. Times tight on this one. Watch the fckwits scrap it.

Whether its a bad thing or not is irrelevant. No government is going to underwrite a world cup right now. The expenditure on the Women's Soccer world Cup here is already causing some grumblings, and that's going to dwarf any League world cup in exposure.

 

[Perth Red]

Whether its a bad thing or not is irrelevant. No government is going to underwrite a world cup right now. The expenditure on the Women's Soccer world Cup here is already causing some grumblings, and that's going to dwarf any League world cup in exposure.

Probably cost a lot more though? All it takes is the old 'we expect it to deliver $50million of benefit to the economy' line that pollies love to trot out for such things.

According to this Its cost NZ govt $55mill to host womens world cup

The UK govt supported the RLWC 2022 to the tune of $50mill.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Alas Christchurch stadium wouldn't be ready to host by then

 

[Te Kaha]

Probably cost a lot more though? All it takes is the old 'we expect it to deliver $50million of benefit to the economy' line that pollies love to trot out for such things.

According to this Its cost NZ govt $55mill to host womens world cup

The UK govt supported the RLWC 2022 to the tune of $50mill.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Alas Christchurch stadium wouldn't be ready to host by then

After the election there might be a chance of getting whichever government is in office to support it, but then you are going to have to wait until October\November to find out. Even then its slim. Before the election there is zero chance.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You really are one limited individual. You are so enamoured by what you see you can't fathom what's underneath, you lack of insight is really laughable. And then there is your confirmation bias... wow.
There have been many reports in this thread about declining player numbers. Not just a small decline, but one that is causing teams and clubs to fail. Just because you are happy with what you see now you don't care about what happens in the future. The game below NRL level IS in dire straights in NZ using any metric you have, that you don't care about that speaks volumes.




He has spoken plenty of times about his "dream" to play for the All Blacks at the World Cup in france later this year, he failed at that, and wont even be able to do that in League either.



Which is you being a trolling imbecile, taking what he said out of context. RTS was selected on the reputation of being one of the best League players on the planet to see if he could handle International competition. He wanted to make the World Cup squad and and the All Blacks selectors therefore gave him a step up to see if he could. He didn't succeed, and is now playing as a bench player for the Blues.
As for cheap? You consider being one of the best League Players in the world isn't good enough for the All Blacks? You think All Blacks are just naturally better than the Best the NRL has to offer? weird, but OK.

Throwing insults, shows where you are at in this thread mate. Many pundits in the media including those in NZ have commented on how the game is thriving in NZ and coming back after Covid. The Warriors pathways are full and the number of Kiwis in the NRL is increasing all the time. I've got news for you mate, the junior numbers in NSW and QLD are declining too and probably everywhere else in all contact sports. It's just the way of the world. Just because it isn't what you are used to from 'back in the day' doesn't mean the game isn't doing well. And yes, I'll take the words of people that professionally cover the game over yours any day because you are just here to say Union good, League bad... geez and you call me a troll.

RTS was good enough to make the All Blacks as his selection showed. I don't know what you are even arguing about anymore. He made it, he is now and forever more an All Black. Unless, you are saying that the jersey has been cheapened so much that they just hand them out to guys like RTS on reputation? Which one is it?

 

[Gobsmacked]

After the election there might be a chance of getting whichever government is in office to support it, but then you are going to have to wait until October\November to find out. Even then its slim. Before the election there is zero chance.

Zero chance of anything in te kah world
Zero chance you're getting layed these days.

 

[Te Kaha]

Throwing insults, shows where you are at in this thread mate.

No throwing insults at idiots is just throwing insults at idiots.

Many pundits in the media including those in NZ have commented on how the game is thriving in NZ and coming back after Covid.

No they aren't. Not a single "pundit" is saying that. Once again you are showing your ignorance. All that is being said is the NRL in NZ is going well. The game below the professional level is in disarray. And you can't show a single post, clip. or article to say other wise. You are either horribly wrong or lying.

The Warriors pathways are full and the number of Kiwis in the NRL is increasing all the time. I've got news for you mate, the junior numbers in NSW and QLD are declining too and probably everywhere else in all contact sports. It's just the way of the world. Just because it isn't what you are used to from 'back in the day' doesn't mean the game isn't doing well.

That is why i am calling you an idiot. You claim the "game is doing well" when clubs in NZ are losing teams and regions are losing clubs. Your myopic view that the NRL is everything makes you the idiot.

And yes, I'll take the words of people that professionally cover the game over yours any day because you are just here to say Union good, League bad... geez and you call me a troll.

Except you can't come up with a single link where ANYONE is saying domestic League in NZ is doing well. And yes you are a troll.

RTS was good enough to make the All Blacks as his selection showed. I don't know what you are even arguing about anymore. He made it, he is now and forever more an All Black. Unless, you are saying that the jersey has been cheapened so much that they just hand them out to guys like RTS on reputation? Which one is it?

That's because you aren't very smart. You said he had fulfilled his dream. He has not, he wanted to play for the All Blacks in a world cup. he wont fulfil that.

 

[Te Kaha]

Zero chance of anything in te kah world
Zero chance you're getting layed these days.

"layed"? The australian schooling system has a lot to answer for.

It also explains why you know absolutely nothing about NZ.

 

[Gobsmacked]

"layed"? The australian schooling system has a lot to answer for.

It also explains why you know absolutely nothing about NZ.

Yep.. zero

 

[Te Kaha]

Yep.. zero

A post i can agree with. You know nothing.

 

[Vibing]

"layed"? The australian schooling system has a lot to answer for.

It also explains why you know absolutely nothing about NZ.

He knows nothing about NZ

You ... know nothing about anything!

 

[Vibing]

ignorant toffball twat

 

[Perth Red]

All just opinions, Apart from the article in Oct last year on the decline in participation in Auckland I cant find any other evidence, either way, for how the game is travelling in NZ. We dont have tv numbers, detailed registered player numbers, school participation numbers or club numbers. Its too early post covid to see how NZRL finances ar etravelliing. Warriors look to be regrowing post covid based on crowds and perfomances across grades. Theres a infogaphic in NZRL annual report saying overall participation number is up 7% but that is wooly as.
Its all just your opinions at this point.

 

[Te Kaha]

All just opinions, Apart from the article in Oct last year on the decline in participation in Auckland I cant find any other evidence, either way, for how the game is travelling in NZ. We dont have tv numbers, detailed registered player numbers, school participation numbers or club numbers. Its too early post covid to see how NZRL finances ar etravelliing. Warriors look to be regrowing post covid based on crowds and perfomances across grades. Theres a infogaphic in NZRL annual report saying overall participation number is up 7% but that is wooly as.
Its all just your opinions at this point.

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The massive increase in Womans League is giving the increase. Same as Rugby is showing. Male participation is trending one way.

 

[Perth Red]

The massive increase in Womans League is giving the increase. Same as Rugby is showing. Male participation is trending one way.

Probably, but impossible to know without knowing the detailed stats what the actual numbers are by age and gender.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Probably cost a lot more though? All it takes is the old 'we expect it to deliver $50million of benefit to the economy' line that pollies love to trot out for such things.

According to this Its cost NZ govt $55mill to host womens world cup

The UK govt supported the RLWC 2022 to the tune of $50mill.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Alas Christchurch stadium wouldn't be ready to host by then

The UK economy is 15x the size of NZs. A lot easier for them to slip $50M funding through. The NZ govt might offer 3-5M towards it tops

 

[Perth Red]

The UK economy is 15x the size of NZs. A lot easier for them to slip $50M funding through. The NZ govt might offer 3-5M towards it tops

They found $55mill for womens world cup. $10-15mil probably secures it for them and they'll get a lot more games. Usually Govt funding is split between costs for the tournament and support for the sport at a grassroots level.

 

[Te Kaha]

The UK economy is 15x the size of NZs. A lot easier for them to slip $50M funding through. The NZ govt might offer 3-5M towards it tops

If Labour stays in office after the election there might be a chance. None beforehand. There are no votes to gain from it.
League's predominant support is in south Auckland, an area that will vote Labour no matter what. If Labour announce they are spending money at the moment on a Sports event, National will hammer them on more wasteful spending in a "cost of Living crisis". The election will be won on the centre ground who are predominantly white middle class... those who don't generally support League, or much sport at all. This election is to close to call, and everything is politics.

 

[Te Kaha]

They found $55mill for womens world cup. $10-15mil probably secures it for them and they'll get a lot more games. Usually Govt funding is split between costs for the tournament and support for the sport at a grassroots level.

That was budgeted for several years ago. There is no chance a govt will announce sports event funding six months out from an election that is too close to call. If the organisers are prepared to wait until after the election there is a chance. However if it is a National\Act government there wont be any funding for a world cup.

 

[Perth Red]

Shame, its probably NZ's best and only chance of fully hosting one