New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Pert would be more like the lions. Decent sized club taking it to the opposition and doing well when the club does well.

Not if the wa economy is about to collapse with the 50 percent fall in the iron ore price

 

[Perth Red]

Not if the wa economy is about to collapse with the 50 percent fall in the iron ore price

Haha, yeh that’s going to happen. You do know it rose 20% last month before coming back down?
We’ve got $9billion surplus from last 2 years. We’ll be ok.

 

[Wb1234]

Haha, yeh that’s going to happen. You do know it rose 20% last month before coming back down?
We’ve got $9billion surplus from last 2 years. We’ll be ok.

Down 50 percent from its high. Down 50 percent in a month

reports overbuilding in China means even a population of 3 billion can’t fill the empty oversupply

Perth has the second highest mortgage stress in Australia with 2 billion in loans at risk

 

[Perth Red]

Down 50 percent from its high. Down 50 percent in a month

reports overbuilding in China means even a population of 3 billion can’t fill the empty oversupply

Perth has the second highest mortgage stress in Australia with 2 billion in loans at risk

You do talk absolute Bollox! And keep derailing threads.

It’s not dropped 50% in a month at all, it went up.

https://www.marketindex.com.au/iron-ore

 

[Wb1234]

You do talk absolute Bollox! And keep derailing threads.

It’s not dropped 50% in a month at all, it went up.

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https://www.marketindex.com.au/iron-ore

https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-china-s-property-market-is-in-freefall-20221004-p5bn4q#:~:text=China's%20property%20sales%20fell%2026.8,48%20per%20cent%20of%20GDP.

 

[Perth Red]

https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-china-s-property-market-is-in-freefall-20221004-p5bn4q#:~:text=China's%20property%20sales%20fell%2026.8,48%20per%20cent%20of%20GDP.

I’ve literally just showed you the iron ore unit price chart!

We can now add mineral prices to union, afl and hull in your constant thread derailing lol

 

[Wb1234]

I’ve literally just showed you the iron ore unit price chart!

We can now add mineral prices to union, afl and hull in your constant thread derailing lol

China’s property pain deflates ‘overhyped’ iron ore market

Iron ore price dipped below $100 a tonne this week for the first time since early December.

www.mining.com

Why CBA sees 'downside risk' for the iron ore price right now

The iron ore price has fallen from above US$130 per tonne in mid-March to less than US$110 p/t today. We report why and what's next.

www.fool.com.au

Australian govt forcast falls to lows not seen for years

 

[Wb1234]

I’ve literally just showed you the iron ore unit price chart!

We can now add mineral prices to union, afl and hull in your constant thread derailing lol

Iron ore price extends decline as concerns over Chinese property market persist

Higher domestic supply also weighed on the key steelmaking ingredient.

www.mining.com

 

[Perth Red]

China’s property pain deflates ‘overhyped’ iron ore market

Iron ore price dipped below $100 a tonne this week for the first time since early December.

www.mining.com

Why CBA sees 'downside risk' for the iron ore price right now

The iron ore price has fallen from above US$130 per tonne in mid-March to less than US$110 p/t today. We report why and what's next.

www.fool.com.au

Australian govt forcast falls to lows not seen for years

Those are forecasts, you said iron ore dropped 50% last month, that is just Bollox.

 

[Perth Red]

Iron ore price extends decline as concerns over Chinese property market persist

Higher domestic supply also weighed on the key steelmaking ingredient.

www.mining.com

That story shows it’s fallen less than 1%, the fact is in the link I have put on which is world iron ore price.

Ok I’m ending this here as it’s nothing to do with expansion and is just complete bs you’ve made up.
iron hasn’t fallen 50% in a month,
wa won’t be skint anytime soon,
wa will remain the wealthiest state in Australia for income and disposable cash.
wa govt will remain cashed up after numerous multi billion surpluses

 

[Wb1234]

Those are forecasts, you said iron ore dropped 50% last month, that is just Bollox.

Maybe not the time to be going to Perth with a huge economic bust predicted

 

[The Great Dane]

The two Dolphin death riders. You two were wrong about that one and there is no reason why a city of 1.7m people that shows an affection for the game can't host two teams in the future, especially with the declining fortunes of Super Rugby

Firstly, neither myself or PR ever questioned whether a second Brisbane side would be sustainable. That's just a lie frankly.

Secondly, I've never seen any evidence of serious widespread demand for a second NRL club in Auckland similar to that that exists for more teams in Brisbane (a problem that a well planned 2nd Bris side could have largely addressed but the Dolphins have exacerbated BTW), nor have the Warriors been anywhere near as successful, let alone sustainable, as the Broncos over their existence.

For sake of argument let's assume that there is some level of demand for another team in Auckland; the fact you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should, and despite that demand I highly doubt that a second side in Auckland would make more commercial sense in the long term than opening up at least a couple of the larger unrepresented markets in NZ first (particularly Christchurch/South Island and Wellington/Lower Hutt).

In saying all that, I think it's probably only a matter of time before Auckland gets a second NRL side if RL continues to steadily grow in NZ, but it probably won't happen anytime within the foreseeable future unless something totally unpredictable happens.

 

[The Great Dane]

I can only see our game growing in the South Pacific. RU has grown so big in Europe it's impossible for our game to ever be anything but niche in England.

RU isn't all that much better off in England than RL. Nor are they responsible for RL's struggles in England, the UK, or Europe more broadly (with a couple of notable exceptions of course). Frankly English RL's worse enemy is English RL.

The goal in every market should be for the sport to slowly carve out a sustainable niche audience and steadily build from that point, but ego and self interest has traditionally got in the way of that in England.

 

[Gobsmacked]

South Island SLAYERS!

 

[Wb1234]

RU isn't all that much better off in England than RL. Nor are they responsible for RL's struggles in England, the UK, or Europe more broadly (with a couple of notable exceptions of course). Frankly English RL's worse enemy is English RL.

The goal in every market should be for the sport to slowly carve out a sustainable niche audience and steadily build from that point, but ego and self interest has traditionally got in the way of that in England.

You could say that also applies to your afl

 

[Perth Red]

RU isn't all that much better off in England than RL. Nor are they responsible for RL's struggles in England, the UK, or Europe more broadly (with a couple of notable exceptions of course). Frankly English RL's worse enemy is English RL.

The goal in every market should be for the sport to slowly carve out a sustainable niche audience and steadily build from that point, but ego and self interest has traditionally got in the way of that in England.

Arguably worse, the debts the clubs are running up are horrific!

yes and no to point two, the great north south divide plays a huge part in uk politics, funding, class war and other areas Including sport in our case.
Union being a southern sport and historically upper class is a media darling whilst league being a working class northern sport has always been largely ignored by southern biased media. Of course we haven’t helped ourselves either at times!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Sure, could be our gws lol what’s point of difference a second auckland team would have? Again we need new markets not sipping from the same cup everytime.

And you're the one pushing major population centres rather than regional towns? Ok sure, let's go to Christchurch

 

[Gobsmacked]

 

[Gobsmacked]

Small town called Kurow in the centre of the south Island

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Any chance of the Christchurch consortium working with North Sydney Bears?

Call them "The Bears" and play their games out of Christchurch. Red and black. It's guaranteed to get media support in Sydney. It's safer than starting a club from scratch.