New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[titoelcolombiano]

If the Auckland public want to be attracted to a professional RL team then they'll head on down to Mount smart to follow the warriors like so many new or bandwagon fans have done so this season.

All another Auckland based NRL team would do is dilute the market which is currently experiencing a surge thanks to the success of the warriors.

As for RL being capable of growing I couldn't agree with you more and that's why the game should target new markets in new Zealand like Christchurch(South Island), Wellington and even Hamilton over a city\region that is already represented(Auckland).

Again, it is a city of 1.7m people with an affection for the game. No reason there shouldn't be a game at Mt Smart every week. Also happy with ideas from others for a North Island team in a nearby city

 

[Brian potter]

Again, it is a city of 1.7m people with an affection for the game. No reason there shouldn't be a game at Mt Smart every week. Also happy with ideas from others for a North Island team in a nearby city

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree mate.

I just don’t see any reason why a rugby league fan in Auckland would decide to support another NRL team based in the city other than the warriors.

for me it’s best to take the game to untapped and unrepresented markets in New Zealand.

 

[MugaB]

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree mate.

I just don’t see any reason why a rugby league fan in Auckland would decide to support another NRL team based in the city other than the warriors.

for me it’s best to take the game to untapped and unrepresented markets in New Zealand.

Sounds like a hull for hull analogy....
No reason the dolphins need to exist in the top grade either since the broncos exist, or the crushers or the 13 other teams in sydney that existed throughout the century we already have south sydney, what more do we want

 

[Brian potter]

Sounds like a hull for hull analogy....
No reason the dolphins need to exist in the top grade either since the broncos exist, or the crushers or the 13 other teams in sydney that existed throughout the century we already have south sydney, what more do we want

The difference between hull and Auckland and Sydney and Auckland is tradition. There are professional teams in Sydney that are more than 70-80 years old and in the case of both hull clubs more than 130 years old.

 

[Bukowski]

Again, it is a city of 1.7m people with an affection for the game. No reason there shouldn't be a game at Mt Smart every week. Also happy with ideas from others for a North Island team in a nearby city

Are there lots of NRL fans there that don't follow the warriors? I know that was the case in Brisbane with the Broncos so another team made sense.
If you already follow the warriors would you change to the the club? If you don't live in Auckland you would change to go watch your team play live, I get that. But if you live in Auckland?

 

[Bukowski]

Sounds like a hull for hull analogy....
No reason the dolphins need to exist in the top grade either since the broncos exist, or the crushers or the 13 other teams in sydney that existed throughout the century we already have south sydney, what more do we want

But the national game evolved from Sydney, thats why we have so many teams there. We wouldn't add another.

 

[Brian potter]

Are there lots of NRL fans there that don't follow the warriors? I know that was the case in Brisbane with the Broncos so another team made sense.
If you already follow the warriors would you change to the the club? If you don't live in Auckland you would change to go watch your team play live, I get that. But if you live in Auckland?

I have a horrible feeling that this is headed towards a segregated team.

 

[Matua]

Again, it is a city of 1.7m people with an affection for the game. No reason there shouldn't be a game at Mt Smart every week. Also happy with ideas from others for a North Island team in a nearby city

Honestly mate, you're taking the anomaly of this year too much into account. Go have a look at historical Warriors crowd figures, there's average support for one team in Auckland when they're not top 4. I have no idea where you think the fanbase for another team is going to come from. There's is no unserved league area in Auckland.

 

[MugaB]

The difference between hull and Auckland and Sydney and Auckland is tradition. There are professional teams in Sydney that are more than 70-80 years old and in the case of both hull clubs more than 130 years old.

And a team needs to exist eventually, dolphins started in 1947, east tigers 1909, north sydney bears in 1908, warriors started in 1995, starting one now/soon, might turn it into tradition in another 30 years... its just perception and bias talking, you cant claim Auckland can't do it, but the hulls can

 

[Perth Red]

Sounds like a hull for hull analogy....
No reason the dolphins need to exist in the top grade either since the broncos exist, or the crushers or the 13 other teams in sydney that existed throughout the century we already have south sydney, what more do we want

Hull clubs have been around 135 years! Both are unique geographic identities and serve two sides of the city accordingly. Like Sydney it’s an an anomaly of history, If you were starting today you wouldn’t put two clubs in Hull.

like I said I can understand why a lot of rugby league fans in brisbane wouldn’t support the SL starting news ltd corporate broncos. A second brisbane team was always going to Hoover up the disaffected,

syndey is a historic anomaly due to the way the game developed, again no sport puts 9 clubs in one city unless it’s a historical construct of how the comp was formed.

and still no one has answered me what a second Auckland teams point of difference is? Why would a rl fan in Auckland not want to follow the warriors currently and decide to follow Auckland2?

 

[Canard]

Perth should only be considered for the 20th licence after underserviced areas that actually like the game are consolidated.

The benefits of NZ2 outweigh Perth astronomically. Any local talent produced by a Christchurch-based team has the potential to strengthen the Kiwis and Test football.

Anyone developed by the WARL is ineligible for Origin and has little chance of worming their way into the Australian team. The Queenslanders and New South Welshmen they're competing against are just too battle hardened because they were raised in a more professional system.

Ladbrokes have a video about a potential Perth team. The scene over there is very bare. It's just park football.

I think NZ2 makes sense as the 18th team, provided it's the North Sydney Bears. There's no point leaving viable bids like NS Bears out of the NRL just because there's too many teams in Sydney.

Now you're saying it's OK to have even more games in Sydney?????

Talk about someone who is off their chops.

 

[Perth Red]

Now you're saying it's OK to have even more games in Sydney?????

Talk about someone who is off their chops.

I’m telling you pippen has hacked donkeys account lol

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Honestly mate, you're taking the anomaly of this year too much into account. Go have a look at historical Warriors crowd figures, there's average support for one team in Auckland when they're not top 4. I have no idea where you think the fanbase for another team is going to come from. There's is no unserved league area in Auckland.

I'm certainly not saying this has to happen tomorrow, but the NRL is going to continue to grow the game including the pathways and the fan base and there's no reason a city of 1.7m people can't host two teams.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Are there lots of NRL fans there that don't follow the warriors? I know that was the case in Brisbane with the Broncos so another team made sense.
If you already follow the warriors would you change to the the club? If you don't live in Auckland you would change to go watch your team play live, I get that. But if you live in Auckland?

There doesn't have to be. Who says that a new team won't have some supporter overlap and draw new fans in. It is possible to grow the sport especially with the NRL now interested and actually investing in NZ

 

[Wb1234]

I’m telling you pippen has hacked donkeys account lol

Buddy it’s an alt

donkey is a genius

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Hull clubs have been around 135 years! Both are unique geographic identities and serve two sides of the city accordingly. Like Sydney it’s an an anomaly of history, If you were starting today you wouldn’t put two clubs in Hull.

like I said I can understand why a lot of rugby league fans in brisbane wouldn’t support the SL starting news ltd corporate broncos. A second brisbane team was always going to Hoover up the disaffected,

syndey is a historic anomaly due to the way the game developed, again no sport puts 9 clubs in one city unless it’s a historical construct of how the comp was formed.

and still no one has answered me what a second Auckland teams point of difference is? Why would a rl fan in Auckland not want to follow the warriors currently and decide to follow Auckland2?

Point of difference? Or just an opportunity to grow the game, provide NZ with a second side and give the fifth biggest market in our region a game every week

 

[Bukowski]

There doesn't have to be. Who says that a new team won't have some supporter overlap and draw new fans in. It is possible to grow the sport especially with the NRL now interested and actually investing in NZ

Yeah, fair enough.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Hull clubs have been around 135 years! Both are unique geographic identities and serve two sides of the city accordingly. Like Sydney it’s an an anomaly of history, If you were starting today you wouldn’t put two clubs in Hull.

like I said I can understand why a lot of rugby league fans in brisbane wouldn’t support the SL starting news ltd corporate broncos. A second brisbane team was always going to Hoover up the disaffected,

syndey is a historic anomaly due to the way the game developed, again no sport puts 9 clubs in one city unless it’s a historical construct of how the comp was formed.

and still no one has answered me what a second Auckland teams point of difference is? Why would a rl fan in Auckland not want to follow the warriors currently and decide to follow Auckland2?

You're using an appeal to history to defend Hull having two clubs.

Two can play that game.

Brisbane Tigers have been around for 90 years. On top of their long history, they're predicted to be one of the four richest clubs in the NRL should they gain a licence. If admitted to the NRL you can bet your arse they'll be bigger than a Perth team.

So Hull can have two teams because they're based on opposite sides of the city?

We've got two teams based north of the river drawing an average of 35k and 32k fans to Lang Park. The population of northern Brisbane is 900k.

There's 1.6m people south of the river with no team.

 

[Bukowski]

Hull again? We need a hull thread...... for 2 people.

 

[Perth Red]

You're using an appeal to history to defend Hull having two clubs.

Two can play that game.

Brisbane Tigers have been around for 90 years. On top of their long history, they're predicted to be one of the four richest clubs in the NRL should they gain a licence. If admitted to the NRL you can bet your arse they'll be bigger than a Perth team.

So Hull can have two teams because they're based on opposite sides of the city?

We've got two teams based north of the river drawing an average of 35k and 32k fans to Lang Park. The population of northern Brisbane is 900k.

There's 1.6m people south of the river with no team.

Again with hull lol
no hull historically has two teams, what you’re suggesting is SL would be better admitting hull 3 rather than a london or toulouse.