New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

I think there’s only ever been 1 main grandstand with the rest being uncovered seated areas.

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[Matua]

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TBF @Hey you guys is correct, there's only ever been one main "grandstand", the area that link is talking about is just uncovered seating being removed. It's still a ground that would meet NRL requirements.

Just to confirm, I'm not advocating for it as a base for a team.

 

[Wb1234]

TBF @Hey you guys is correct, there's only ever been one main "grandstand", the area that link is talking about is just uncovered seating being removed. It's still a ground that would meet NRL requirements.

Just to confirm, I'm not advocating for it as a base for a team.

Agreed but it’s not fit for rectangular sports anymore. Not with the crowds expected for an Auckland rl side

The idea was good in theory for a geographical north side divide just not realistic

If rugby league really takes off and Wellington and chch have sides potentially a Hamilton side ? ???

Either way that’s not happening for25 to 50 years if ever

 

[Matua]

Agreed but it’s not fit for rectangular sports anymore. Not with the crowds expected for an Auckland rl side

The idea was good in theory for a geographical north side divide just not realistic

If rugby league really takes off and Wellington and chch have sides potentially a Hamilton side ? ???

Either way that’s not happening for25 to 50 years if ever

Bro, if they ever inserted a team in that ground the 12k grandstand would be enough to cover the crowd. You need to think in long term, not in the Warriors hype train of 2023/24. Also, it would be pretty easy to add temporary seating along one side to make it a full rectangular ground again. Moana Pasifika play out of it next year, which seems bonkers as it's not the main area of the PI population in Auckland, so they wont get crowds big enough to test the theory.

Another northern team should be a distant third in the options for a team 2.

 

[Wb1234]

Bro, if they ever inserted a team in that ground the 12k grandstand would be enough to cover the crowd. You need to think in long term, not in the Warriors hype train of 2023/24. Also, it would be pretty easy to add temporary seating along one side to make it a full rectangular ground again. Moana Pasifika play out of it next year, which seems bonkers as it's not the main area of the PI population in Auckland, so they wont get crowds big enough to test the theory.

Another northern team should be a distant third in the options for a team 2.

Didn’t know they were giving up mt smart

Given the capacity in Wellington and chch seated north harbour would be an awful choice for a team

Not like the crowds that Moana pacika side were decent anyway

What happens if the new cbd stadium gets built will the warriors move there full time

Can’t see mt smart getting an upgrade

The warriors should also be taking marquee games to Eden park like the Anzac Day game

And finals

 

[jim_57]

Obviously a firm No to Auckland 2.
In the event of a second NZ team however, I wonder about a possible away game at Eden Park.
Let's say the Sharks and Raiders play their home games against the Warriors and SI at Eden Park?
Double header..
Example:
Saturday 3.30pm NZ time ( 5.30pm Aus)
Sharks vs Warriors
5.30pm NZ time (7.30pm Aus)
Raiders vs South Island

Sold out annual event

Double headers seem to have done well in Perth so I’d be keen to see more. Ideally Auckland, Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide would all have an NRL ‘event’ each year, one gets the neutral Origin the others host a double header.

 

[jim_57]

What happens if the new cbd stadium gets built will the warriors move there full time

Can’t see mt smart getting an upgrade

The warriors should also be taking marquee games to Eden park like the Anzac Day game

And finals

I believe the Warriors have said something vague like “we’d definitely consider it if the deal was right”. Would also depends what happens to Mt Smart if there is a reshuffle, you’d imagine Auckland should want to keep a mid-sized stadium but who knows.

Mt Smart could do with some minor upgrades, or at least get the Northern bank opened again to allow a few thousand extra GA hill tickets to be sold.

As for Eden Park, they’ve got the pub across the road now, you’d think it’s a matter of time before they look at taking a game or 2 there again.

 

[Wb1234]

I believe the Warriors have said something vague like “we’d definitely consider it if the deal was right”. Would also depends what happens to Mt Smart if there is a reshuffle, you’d imagine Auckland should want to keep a mid-sized stadium but who knows.

Mt Smart could do with some minor upgrades, or at least get the Northern bank opened again to allow a few thousand extra GA hill tickets to be sold.

As for Eden Park, they’ve got the pub across the road now, you’d think it’s a matter of time before they look at taking a game or 2 there again.

Forgot about that pub yeh that’s a good point

Would mean they would favour upgraded Eden park over the new downtown stadium

Ideal scenario would be 30 to 35k rebuilt mt smart but that ain’t happening

The cbd stadium has a proposed 20k club mode

Be interesting to see how this play out

 

[Matua]

Didn’t know they were giving up mt smart

Given the capacity in Wellington and chch seated north harbour would be an awful choice for a team

Not like the crowds that Moana pacika side were decent anyway

What happens if the new cbd stadium gets built will the warriors move there full time

Can’t see mt smart getting an upgrade

The warriors should also be taking marquee games to Eden park like the Anzac Day game

And finals

I don't they'll ever do the CBD stadium but if they do then all the teams should play there (league, rugby and soccer).

I don't know if there is much desire at Warriors headquarters to play at Eden Park. I'm not sure if they think they can fill it - remembering they had the opportunity to keep the increased stand capacity after the ABs test at Mt Smart and they chose not. I like the idea of Blues and Warriors double headers at Eden Park though, the only issue would be working out agreements on the gate etc.

Also, for finals, I think they lose some of their home ground advantage doing that and only for the sake of say 10k more fans through the door.

 

[Wb1234]

I don't they'll ever do the CBD stadium but if they do then all the teams should play there (league, rugby and soccer).

I don't know if there is much desire at Warriors headquarters to play at Eden Park. I'm not sure if they think they can fill it - remembering they had the opportunity to keep the increased stand capacity after the ABs test at Mt Smart and they chose not. I like the idea of Blues and Warriors double headers at Eden Park though, the only issue would be working out agreements on the gate etc.

Also, for finals, I think they lose some of their home ground advantage doing that and only for the sake of say 10k more fans through the door.

That’s a very interesting idea about a blues / warriors double header

 

[Matua]

That’s a very interesting idea about a blues / warriors double header

I may have been dreaming but for some reason I think it has been done before.

 

[Wb1234]

I may have been dreaming but for some reason I think it has been done before.

Warriors to host cross-code double header with Super Rugby

The Canberra Raiders' round two clash against the Warriors will be the first leg of a historic double header at Eden Park with Super Rugby teams the ACT Brumbies and Auckland Blues to face off later the same night.

www.nrl.com

Google shows this

There was one planned for 2020 too but it got canned

Warriors-Blues double header cancelled

The Warriors and the Blues have been forced to cancel next Saturday's double-header.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Canard]

I may have been dreaming but for some reason I think it has been done before.

They should have done it in Melbourne to, but that ship has sailed

 

[Hey you guys]

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Baseball.

WTF!!!

 

[Hey you guys]

TBF @Hey you guys is correct, there's only ever been one main "grandstand", the area that link is talking about is just uncovered seating being removed. It's still a ground that would meet NRL requirements.

Just to confirm, I'm not advocating for it as a base for a team.

yeah, I remember watching on tv the kiwis playing the Aussies a couple of times there in the late 90’s and early 2000’s and only ever remembering the stadium having one main decent looking touchline grandstand with the rest of the ground being your standard uncovered seating.

that main grandstand design at north harbour kind of reminds me of the stadium in Huddersfield and how it could have been and looked much better with an identical grandstand on the opposite touchline side.

incidentially I think I’m right in believing that the kiwis have a pretty good record at the stadium against the Aussies with 2 wins, a draw and 1 loss.

 

[Matiunz]

I may have been dreaming but for some reason I think it has been done before.

Think it was due to happen over covid but covid killed it

 

[Matiunz]

yeah, I remember watching on tv the kiwis playing the Aussies a couple of times there in the late 90’s and early 2000’s and only ever remembering the stadium having one main decent looking touchline grandstand with the rest of the ground being your standard uncovered seating.

that main grandstand design at north harbour kind of reminds me of the stadium in Huddersfield and how it could have been and looked much better with an identical grandstand on the opposite touchline side.

incidentially I think I’m right in believing that the kiwis have a pretty good record at the stadium against the Aussies with 2 wins, a draw and 1 loss.

Pretty sure it was supposed to have another grandstand built originally but had a soft opening with just the one stand but it became a bit of a white elephant and it never happened. Pretty sure I’ve even heard of a roof been bandied around in the past

 

[Matiunz]

Baseball.

WTF!!!

Yeah and covid killed the Tuatara off anyway. The had some sort of relationship with the Auckland NBL team (basketball) which is still around with the Tuatara name

 

[Hey you guys]

I believe the Warriors have said something vague like “we’d definitely consider it if the deal was right”. Would also depends what happens to Mt Smart if there is a reshuffle, you’d imagine Auckland should want to keep a mid-sized stadium but who knows.

Mt Smart could do with some minor upgrades, or at least get the Northern bank opened again to allow a few thousand extra GA hill tickets to be sold.

As for Eden Park, they’ve got the pub across the road now, you’d think it’s a matter of time before they look at taking a game or 2 there again.

Is the pub the warriors own at Eden park a warriors themed pub or just your normal pub near a stadium?

 

[Hey you guys]

Pretty sure it was supposed to have another grandstand built originally but had a soft opening with just the one stand but it became a bit of a white elephant and it never happened. Pretty sure I’ve even heard of a roof been bandied around in the past

What or who was it actually originally built for?