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[The_Wookie]

does that include the stadium for the AFL? What value are they putting on that ?

really need to wait for the concise report on that. the financials werent as thorough this year.

 

[Wb1234]

sure, but by the same reasoning that we couldnt include government grants in AFL revenue, we surely have to exclude them from NRL ones. You wouldnt have a double standard would you?

Snap

Knew one of you would fall for that

 

[Wb1234]

2025 Operations and events
nrl increase last year $84mill
afl increase last year $91million

so nope sorry Wb but you’re wrong on this as well, now the png cash flow and the wa govt cash flow is certainly going to make a positive difference over next few years, for afl the tassie govt cash flow will do same.

Seeing you responding like this is excellent especially when I know I’m right and the gap will be gone soon

Afl had 30 years and 3 billion to get somewhere with that dominance and it’s failed

New tv deal will being in 250 million ish

Non broadcast revenue will rise 100 to 250 over the same time frame

And no giants or suns to send the code broke

 

[The_Wookie]

Snap

Knew one of you would fall for that

its not a matter of falling for anything, its a matter of whether you are going to hold to a standard you demanded of us with the AFL.

 

[Wb1234]

its not a matter of falling for anything, its a matter of whether you are going to hold to a standard you demanded of us with the AFL.

When the afl did it you defended it said it was perfectly acceptable

And I don’t think the png money is the reason why the revenue gap will close

It will be because of games like Samoa v Tonga, Vegas

It’s pretty funny seeing govt grants all over afl financials where government grants are going towards building up afl clubs asset bases

Man your code bludge a lot of the taxpayer

Your state is billions in debt and that doesn’t stop the afl and its club bleeding the state for more

 

[The_Wookie]

Seeing you responding like this is excellent especially when I know I’m right and the gap will be gone soon

Afl had 30 years and 3 billion to get somewhere with that dominance and it’s failed

If by failed, you mean still dominant. And by a fair margin financially.

New tv deal will being in 250 million ish

would want to be more than 250m

Non broadcast revenue will rise 100 to 250 over the same time frame

And you assume the AFL will just sit on its hands apparently. The AFL had a non broadcast revenue rise of 95m in 2025 alone - more than the 71m rise in broadcast revenue, in a brand new cycle. Amd that compares not terribly with the 100m total rise in ARLC revenue over the same period.

And no giants or suns to send the code broke

The AFL is nowhere near broke, nor likely to be any time soon. It was just as profitable as the NRL last year, and added almost as much as the NRL to net assets last year (62m to 65m).

 

[insert.pause]

If the blowouts continue they can forget the record tv deal. The balance with the set restarts is completely f**ked atm. They need to stop meddling with the rules every off season.

 

[Wb1234]

If by failed, you mean still dominant. And by a fair margin financially.



would want to be more than 250m



And you assume the AFL will just sit on its hands apparently. The AFL had a non broadcast revenue rise of 95m in 2025 alone - more than the 71m rise in broadcast revenue, in a brand new cycle. Amd that compares not terribly with the 100m total rise in ARLC revenue over the same period.



The AFL is nowhere near broke, nor likely to be any time soon. It was just as profitable as the NRL last year, and added almost as much as the NRL to net assets last year (62m to 65m).

Gone backwards in nsw and qld

Afl net assets not much more than league despite being gifted cheap land in Melbourne

Afl not even second most popular code in nsw or qld

Afl can’t do Vegas or pacific cup so no limited options unlike league

Giants suns and lions are draining afl financially

As will Tasmania and the swans are following a similar path lol

nrl is way bigger than afl given its international exposure

It’s not even close

 

[The_Wookie]

Gone backwards in nsw and qld

Its a national competition, and not just in NSW and QLD

Afl net assets not much more than league despite being gifted cheap land in Melbourne

Net assets growing at the same rate as NRL ones ... and signifcantly further ahead.

Afl not even second most popular code in nsw or qld

National competition though. And far more popular there than league is in Vic/SA/WA

Afl can’t do Vegas or pacific cup so no limited options unlike league

Giants suns and lions are draining afl financially

And yet still just as profitable. go figure.

As will Tasmania and the swans are following a similar path lol

nrl is way bigger than afl given its international exposure

facts not actually in evidence.

It’s not even close

There is no financial measure the NRL is even close to the AFL at the moment...but sure lets hang out for 2028 for that billion dollar revenue...that the AFL reached in 2024, or the half billion dollar asset value that the AFL already has.

 

[Wb1234]

Its a national competition, and not just in NSW and QLD



Net assets growing at the same rate as NRL ones ... and signifcantly further ahead.



National competition though. And far more popular there than league is in Vic/SA/WA



And yet still just as profitable. go figure.



facts not actually in evidence.



There is no financial measure the NRL is even close to the AFL at the moment...but sure lets hang out for 2028 for that billion dollar revenue...that the AFL reached in 2024, or the half billion dollar asset value that the AFL already has.

As much as I enjoy seeing you and Perth red get wound up over this this isn’t the thread for it but happy to continue it on tfc

Nrl tv deal will be a blockbuster

All your comments about a weak ad market and ratings not being relevant will be reminded when it’s done

 

[Perth Red]

Seeing you responding like this is excellent especially when I know I’m right and the gap will be gone soon

Afl had 30 years and 3 billion to get somewhere with that dominance and it’s failed

New tv deal will being in 250 million ish

Non broadcast revenue will rise 100 to 250 over the same time frame

And no giants or suns to send the code broke

Mate you’ve made 3 claims, all of which have been nonsense!
a $250mill tv increase will not fully close the $355mill revenue gap
nrl does not currently have more net assets than afl
nrl commercial activity revenue did not go up by more than the afls last year

the rest is hypothetical at this stage and only time will tell. Going to be very interesting to see what the nrls current growth period and expansion has on the tv deal.

 

[BODISGOD]

It’s a $150m more a year .,, can you show your maths please ? How much do you think the costs ( cap plus extras )are for these two?

They are both free hits already given Govt money ..thanks broadcasters for doubling up ( at least ) there



Sounds like the NRL should consider an alternative then… DAZN are vulnerable as F, and the AFL are chained to them the next 6 years ,,,let them both have each other, but it might have explained why Blavatnik was in Vegas last weekend doing shots with PVL

There are whispers Stan might bid for the subscription rights… could make things difficult with half the DAZN subscribers moving on … I don’t see how they can lose that battle tbh

That’s a rough calc of inflation plus $50m for another broadcast slot.

Of course the NRL will consider all bidders, but the existing pay tv broadcaster is not one you can wave away. They are hugely important.

Nine Entertainment cannot afford the entire broadcast contract.

 

[Wb1234]

Mate you’ve made 3 claims, all of which have been nonsense!
a $250mill tv increase will not fully close the $355mill revenue gap
nrl does not currently have more net assets than afl
nrl commercial activity revenue did not go up by more than the afls last year

the rest is hypothetical at this stage and only time will tell. Going to be very interesting to see what the nrls current growth period and expansion has on the tv deal.

Nrl tv deal is going to beat the afl tv deal

And that’s not even factoring in the real value of the extra game or the new clubs

Even your club could add 4 to 8 million to the games aggregate ratings between new fans in Perth and lapsed bears fans in Sydney

And despite your mocking they will monetise the png tv market overtime just like they did nz

Between Australia nz png and growth in international viewers there’s decades of growth

Where’s the growth for afl ?

 

[BuffaloRules]

That’s a rough calc of inflation plus $50m for another broadcast slot.

Of course the NRL will consider all bidders, but the existing pay tv broadcaster is not one you can wave away. They are hugely important.

Nine Entertainment cannot afford the entire broadcast

is every broadcast slot considered equal ? The best prime slots are already being in use ..we don’t know yet where this 9th game will land …

Can you show your calculations on the inflation call .. what rate are you using? Seems overstated … they didn’t get an inflation allowance the last time haha ..

 

[Perth Red]

Nrl tv deal is going to beat the afl tv deal

And that’s not even factoring in the real value of the extra game or the new clubs

Even your club could add 4 to 8 million to the games aggregate ratings between new fans in Perth and lapsed bears fans in Sydney

And despite your mocking they will monetise the png tv market overtime just like they did nz

Between Australia nz png and growth in international viewers there’s decades of growth

Where’s the growth for afl ?

again all hypotheticals based on what you hope will happen.

 

[Frank Burge]

again all hypotheticals based on what you hope will happen.

Shouldn’t we all be hoping these things will happen? You know being rugby league fans and all…

 

[insert.pause]

really need to wait for the concise report on that. the financials werent as thorough this year.

can you help me understand why the Vic gov have signed a JV with the AFL to build a hotel for the afl? I know a few years ago the afl were trying to get the state gov to gift them some land to build new HQ’s because they want this hotel where their current HQ’s are, but now they are leasing a new HQ?
The original deal for taxpayers to redevelop the AFL owned stadium was hard enough to understand, but at least taxpayers got the GF for decades in return, but this one seems murky as shit and I don’t understand why the state gov are involved in place of private investment?

 

[Wb1234]

again all hypotheticals based on what you hope will happen.

It’s a discussion forum

I told you ages ago seven year deal at 700 million should be the target

Now you are quoting that 700 millon figure yourself

Are you saying Perth bears won’t increase our ratings lol

Once png ratings are included we will have double afl and growing

 

[Pippen94]

Its a national competition, and not just in NSW and QLD



Net assets growing at the same rate as NRL ones ... and signifcantly further ahead.



National competition though. And far more popular there than league is in Vic/SA/WA



And yet still just as profitable. go figure.



facts not actually in evidence.



There is no financial measure the NRL is even close to the AFL at the moment...but sure lets hang out for 2028 for that billion dollar revenue...that the AFL reached in 2024, or the half billion dollar asset value that the AFL already has.

Are you jettisoning any pretence of being impartial?!

 

[Pippen94]

Nrl tv deal is going to beat the afl tv deal

And that’s not even factoring in the real value of the extra game or the new clubs

Even your club could add 4 to 8 million to the games aggregate ratings between new fans in Perth and lapsed bears fans in Sydney

And despite your mocking they will monetise the png tv market overtime just like they did nz

Between Australia nz png and growth in international viewers there’s decades of growth

Where’s the growth for afl ?

AFL has stalled in western Sydney and Qld. NRL dominates pacific and can add established rugby league markets in Europe. AFL fear this.