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Next TV rights deal part 2

Are you happy with the new TV deal?


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Bench
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lol, I guess you've never been employed to write a report for someone who already has the answer they want? Naive or what.

the DT article was an interview not an opinion piece. Not surprisingly immediately after this interview we never heard from him again.

Oh so, the commission are going to see his report and go "na, f**k it. We don't like what that says so we're going to change it's contents."

You're seriously f**king stupid.

I have no doubt that the commission are going to see some parts of that report and say they can't address it at this time because they have other issues to be focusing on. But unless they say Perth needs and gets a team, you won't be happy and continue your obvious agenda.
 

Palms

Juniors
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It looks like nothing has changed in the last decade! I wish there were more people in the game coming out and rubbishing these poor excuses for journalists. It's a great laugh...



http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/c...005/10/08/1128563035072.html?from=moreStories

Can't tell write from wrong
By Phil Gould
October 9, 2005
The Sun-Herald
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Now the football is over, I'll respond to the rubbish reported about me lately.

Columnists such as Phil Rothfield, Rebecca Wilson and radio's Ray Hadley seem to have an obsession with discrediting me.

Their obsession is boring the pants off everybody.

I think Rothfield and Wilson place agendas and personal grievances above readers' needs for informative, accurate and unbiased reporting.

Rothfield has sledged me for more than a decade. His bitterness towards me has overtaken common sense and accuracy where my name is concerned. He is constantly wrong about me but that doesn't stop him backing up for another go. He has never contacted me to verify a story. He once sent me an abusive email. My email response must have hit the mark because he's never written to me again. These days he's just spitting into the wind. Every time he opens his mouth about me it blows right back in his face.

As for Rebecca Wilson?

Ha, ha, ha. Sorry. I can't even say her name without laughing. She must be trying to emulate Rothfield because her gossip column bears a striking resemblance to his style.

Despite constantly writing about me over the years, she has never had the courage to contact me to verify a story. Her stories about me have been inaccurate, exaggerated, embellished and misrepresentative. As far as I am concerned, it has been a vindictive, deliberate and sustained campaign.

It's all become so boring and her credibility has suffered so much that she must be close to giving it away and allowing someone else to write that gossip column.

And Ray Hadley? He often delivers vindictive attacks on individuals, sometimes targeting their very livelihood. Don't take my word for it. Ask people such as Brian Smith, Paul Vautin, Peter Sterling, John Gibbs and Andrew Voss. He, too, has never had the courage to phone me to verify a story before shooting off his mouth. I wonder why?

Like Rothfield, Hadley is extremely thin-skinned. They dish it out but can't take it.

Recently this troika has targeted my role at the Roosters. They are up in arms that I didn't attend a couple of club functions. So what? What's it got to do with them anyway? By saying I didn't turn up they are suggesting I was expected to attend these occasions but didn't show. That's totally incorrect.

For the record: I've attended less than a handful of club functions in the past six years. I also don't attend Dally M awards, season launches, grand final breakfasts, book launches and cocktail parties. I gave up going to these dos when I retired from coaching six years ago.

They also thought they had a big story when they heard I was invited to talk to Dragons players at a dinner before their final against Wests Tigers. So bloody what? I'm invited to talk to many sporting bodies, teams, clubs, junior leagues, business seminars, individuals and charities. I do as many as I can.

Newcastle's Paul Harragon spoke to the Tigers. Gorden Tallis and Mark Geyer spoke to the Cowboys.

Footballers like to help each other. Rugby league is not like the media where people like Rothfield, Wilson and Hadley attack those who work for rival media organisations just for the sake of it. How childish is that?

For the record: I declined the Dragons dinner invitation. I have never addressed the Dragons coaches. I did agree to deliver a short talk to the players. It had nothing to do with coaching, tactics, game plans or Wests Tigers. I asked Nathan Brown what message he wanted emphasised and that was the message I delivered. He was spot on, too. I spoke for 10 minutes and left. End of story. Anyone suggesting different is a liar.

Their other scintillating story is that I've supposedly had a stink with Roosters coach Ricky Stuart. They say the Roosters are in crisis. Yeah right! This is a total misrepresentation. Our club and the Roosters fans do not deserve this rubbish.

For the record: I've never had a stink with anyone at the Roosters, let alone Ricky Stuart. Ricky and I are mates. He's a great coach. We argue and bag one another every day about football matters and have done since we met 13 years ago; but we enjoy it. It's healthy to have a difference of opinion.

Over the past two years I have backed right away from dealing with the players on a day-to-day basis because Ricky and the other coaches do such a great job. Ricky does not need anyone looking over his shoulder to coach a football team. He earned his autonomy years ago. These days I'm just a sounding-board for his ideas or anything else he wants to discuss.

The decision by Roosters chairman Nick Politis to introduce a new coaching system at the club four years ago has delivered great results.

For the record; Ricky Stuart and Nick Politis are the reason for our club's unprecedented recent success.

The Roosters have played in three grand finals. We won a first-grade premiership, World Club Challenge and three lower-grade premierships. Last year we played in all three games on grand final day, winning two and coming within three points of winning the third. Last year's premier league coach Ivan Cleary has been appointed Warriors head coach. Assistant coach John Cartwright is to be head coach of the Gold Coast Titans. Our premier league coach, Shane Flanagan, is ready to coach first grade.

The Roosters coaching staff also assisted me in a three-year undefeated tenure as NSW State of Origin coach. Ricky Stuart is now the successful NSW coach and will be the next coach of Australia. I'd call that pretty successful.

For the record: I love the Roosters. Even if I leave them, and that day hasn't come yet, Nick Politis knows I will never work for another football club. I guaranteed him that a long time ago. I am committed to him for life. Nick, Ricky and I are great friends. The media will never come between us. Rothfield, Wilson and Hadley can choke on that!

Sorry for this short break in transmission. My normal service will resume next week.
 

Perth Red

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Oh so, the commission are going to see his report and go "na, f**k it. We don't like what that says so we're going to change it's contents."

You're seriously f**king stupid.

I have no doubt that the commission are going to see some parts of that report and say they can't address it at this time because they have other issues to be focusing on. But unless they say Perth needs and gets a team, you won't be happy and continue your obvious agenda.

No they'll release the bits they intend to act on and say nothing about the too hard bits. You might not know but we had two NRL employees already conduct whole of game reviews, Shane Matisse and jim Doyle. You might not know because they were never released. But yeh it's all about Perth blah blah blah.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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The NRL is at its best when it has a single Other to rally against. We lost that when NewsLtd dropped ownership in 2012, and we've missed it ever since...

The NRL should begin another Cold War-style fight with News to rally that fans again, but it cant be fought by the ARLC. We need someone from clubland, like Gus, to lead a campaign of hate against News.

This was a great article and id love to see him start writing like this again. #f*ckMurdock
 

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Bench
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Gus isn't employed by Fairfax to wage a war against News.

The average person doesn't look at a newspaper and think that it's agenda driven. They genuinely think that it's the news and everything in it is fact.

People believe what they're told and they don't like being told that the source of their information or belief is wrong or agenda driven. (religion anyone?)

No amount of campaigning by Rugby League fans is going to make a difference in people's perceptions of the Daily Telegraph or Fox Sports and make them suddenly wake up to their agenda. News are pretty much despised over the world already. The best thing we can do is what's already happening, moving towards other mediums of news and entertainment that they currently rely on. Netflix, Optus, Fairfax, etc etc.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Gus isn't employed by Fairfax to wage a war against News.

The average person doesn't look at a newspaper and think that it's agenda driven. They genuinely think that it's the news and everything in it is fact.

People believe what they're told and they don't like being told that the source of their information or belief is wrong or agenda driven. (religion anyone?)

No amount of campaigning by Rugby League fans is going to make a difference in people's perceptions of the Daily Telegraph or Fox Sports and make them suddenly wake up to their agenda. News are pretty much despised over the world already. The best thing we can do is what's already happening, moving towards other mediums of news and entertainment that they currently rely on. Netflix, Optus, Fairfax, etc etc.

WHich is why i say Gus (or someone in a similar position) should do it....

People may not accept NewsLtd is agenda driven (or, if they do, they may not recognise most of it) if another fan tell them so. But if Gus the Great, the messiah of RL, speaker to the Football Gods, was to tell them take NewsLtd was waging war against RL, the would be ready to believe it in a heartbeat.

Its the one reason i would actually like seeing Gus on the Commission; having him pissing out of the tent rather than in, getting in the ears of RL fans and convincing them to unite against a common enemy (and, in turn, not to worry about the issues of the game) would benifit the game massively...
 

typicalfan

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That would only fuel News propaganda rather than quell it. That is why the ARLC stay quiet. News only does itself damage when the NRL don't bite.

Chest beating does nothing, look at the comparison between the NRL and AFL regarding the supplement saga as an example.
 

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Bench
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WHich is why i say Gus (or someone in a similar position) should do it....

People may not accept NewsLtd is agenda driven (or, if they do, they may not recognise most of it) if another fan tell them so. But if Gus the Great, the messiah of RL, speaker to the Football Gods, was to tell them take NewsLtd was waging war against RL, the would be ready to believe it in a heartbeat.

Its the one reason i would actually like seeing Gus on the Commission; having him pissing out of the tent rather than in, getting in the ears of RL fans and convincing them to unite against a common enemy (and, in turn, not to worry about the issues of the game) would benifit the game massively...

You're talking about a person who believes that the Storm should be relocated to Brisbane. He doesn't have the games future at heart, just the clubs.

We don't need a mouth piece undermining News. It won't achieve anything.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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That would only fuel News propaganda rather than quell it. That is why the ARLC stay quiet. News only does itself damage when the NRL don't bite.

Chest beating does nothing, look at the comparison between the NRL and AFL regarding the supplement saga as an example.

Its not about stopping NewsLtd from writing the stories, just changing the effect of them...

These days, by shear force of repetition, people do start to believe the whole "code in crisis" shit.

If, however, RL was able to create a counter-narrative that prefaced every single negative NewsLtd story as "this is an attempt to destroy the game you love" it creates a win-win situation for the NRL; News either start writing positive stories to reestablish itself as a legitimate source OR they go toe-to-toe with RL knowing negative stories will just make defensive.

The great thing about a person that is being defencive of some nationalistic passion is that they dont spend much time critically analysing it themselves. In starting this Cold War, the stupid RL fans would stop with all of the dumb critics; "worst refs ever, aside from all of the other seasons"/"worst admin ever, how dare they not do exactly what i say"/"they need to change all of the rules but also not change any of the rules", all of this would become "you have no right to say anything bad about the sport i love".
 

Perth Red

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I wonder if the NRL have already made their minds up that there will def be 4 FTA games regardless of what Fox want? They continue to spruik it as a big positive for the fans (latest was today on a facebook infographic as a highlight of 2015). Going to have some egg on their face if they don't produce after talking it up.
 

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I wonder if the NRL have already made their minds up that there will def be 4 FTA games regardless of what Fox want? They continue to spruik it as a big positive for the fans (latest was today on a facebook infographic as a highlight of 2015). Going to have some egg on their face if they don't produce after talking it up.

Not sure why you would mention this now as it has nothing to do with the current conversation, but let's assume you're not just being agenda driven.

It would be massive PR failure if they went back on 4 games on FTA. They wouldn't have announced 4 FTA games if they weren't going to deliver it.

But yes, let's bring up a hypothetical scenario of the commission and Nine going back on their announcement, which could lead them to having egg on their faces.
 

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Hilarious:lol:
The NRL is under increasing pressure to fast-track a new television rights deal to help fund an improved offer for clubs.

Last week The Daily Telegraph revealed a proposed broadcast deal was being negotiated between News Corp, the NRL and the Nine Network, which could deliver the game $1.85 billion over five years and begin as early as 2016.

But it’s understood the NRL is still shopping its rights around despite fans’ fears the remaining live games could be sold to a telecommunications company with no reliable platform for delivering coverage.

The NFL recently streamed a regular-season game between Jacksonville and Buffalo in London on Yahoo that was widely slammed as a failure due to the quality of the broadcast.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ion-over-funding/story-fnp0lyn3-1227614409853
 

Diesel

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Not long before a 9th game is a definite, and if Fox want more coverage than FTA they'll be paying huge for it
 

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