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Next TV rights deal

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docbrown

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When did Fox Sports lodge their first offer ?

If you had asked News Corp Hack Number One two weeks ago: the NRL were already negotiating with Foxtel, Telstra & 10

If you ask News Corp Hack Number Two today: the NRL never even negotiated with Foxtel, Telstra or 10.

:lol:
 

Edwahu

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I wonder if they will do the Pay deal quickly or let Foxtel stew a bit. They have 24 months. Old Rupey might have run out of virgin blood by then and shuffled off the mortal coil.
 

Timbo

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I know there is still a few years to resolve this, but I would be reluctant to enter into a scenario where certain games are streamed only - even if this results in a HD package which is more accessible at a better price for the bulk of Australians - having seen the quality of the current digital pass.

I would want some sore of ironclad agreement that it would be a much higher quality service than what we currently have by the way of streaming.
 

Ice_Storm

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Somethings happened for Uncle Rupert to chuck such a wobbly. My bet is a rejected offer.

Think your right. He paid $1.3M for AFL over 5-6 years (depending on which news service you read). Based on that, with NRL being so dominant as a ratings program on Fox, that would mean the NRL can negotiate like hell to match or even better it.
No rush either. Maybe another option will reveal itself. Maybe the NRL are finally playing hardball with Murdoch. Pay up or miss out.

Will Fox bid aggressively knowing the NRL may have some cards still up its sleeve? Imagine the red faces south ofthe border if Fox match it? Imagine the red faces if the NRL choose another option and leave Fox altogether leaving the AFL/Fox with a possible sinking ship.


At first, like everyone, I thought the NRL have stuffed it up again. Now I'm thinking they could be geniuses.

Small voice though keeps whispering to me that they've made the biggest blunder of all time. Just a small voice. He's hoping I'm confusing the voice with my hunger pains right now....
 

docbrown

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Somethings happened for Uncle Rupert to chuck such a wobbly. My bet is a rejected offer.

Once upon a time the Fumble Fairy was inspecting the gloryholes in the MCG boggers when he came across an ugly troll who was crying.

"What's wrong?" said the Fumble Fairy.

"The Rugby League King was mean to me," wailed the hideous beast. "When I told him I wanted to buy his sport for a handful of magic beans he told me to f**k off. All I ever wanted was to gut his sport and f**k its corpse so I could get the TV rights for nothing. I don't know why he doesn't like me."

The Fumble Fairy frowned and replied, "Never fear my sweet hideous little monster. I will grant you a magic wish. If you give me hundreds of millions of dollars for something you were going to buy anyway, I will help slay the King."

"Haven't you been trying to do that for the past 30 years," replied the miserable little merkin.

"Yeah but now you can help me by getting your hacks to write shitty articles in the Daily Telegraph."

The ugly troll smiled. "Gee whiz, I never thought of that before. Thanks Fumble Fairy."

One week later the troll died from syphilis contracted from an Asian prostitute.

The End
 

babyg

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Long time no post. Everyone needs to stop freaking. We don't know the half of it.

My guess is the reason that Dave Smith jumped at the nine deal is that there must be something in the pipeline for Stan. Jump at the deal, rush the AFL into pay tv, then NRL will invest in Stan and put 4 games a week on that platform. Doing this will damage presto and foxtel.

Remember Stan is owned by Nine & Fairfax, this will develop over time. So let them have their time in the sun, we may end up a shareholder in Stan and take on Netflix.

I'm thinking the same thing though I think it would be wise for the NRL to stay selling the content rather than get mixed up with all this technology business. It's a dangerous path.
 
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Once upon a time the Fumble Fairy was inspecting the gloryholes in the MCG boggers when he came across an ugly troll who was crying.

"What's wrong?" said the Fumble Fairy.

"The Rugby League King was mean to me," wailed the hideous beast. "When I told him I wanted to buy his sport for a handful of magic beans he told me to f**k off. All I ever wanted was to gut his sport and f**k its corpse so I could get the TV rights for nothing. I don't know why he doesn't like me."

The Fumble Fairy frowned and replied, "Never fear my sweet hideous little monster. I will grant you a magic wish. If you give hundreds of millions of dollars for overs, I will help slay the King."

"Haven't you been trying to do that for the past 30 years," replied the miserable little merkin.

"Yeah but now you can help me by getting your hacks to write shitty articles in the Daily Telegraph."

The ugly troll smiled. "Gee whiz, I never thought of that before. Thanks Fumble Fairy."

One week later the troll died from syphilis contracted from an Asian prostitute.

The End

I hope Netflix have optioned this from you.

I'd watch it. FLMAO!!! :lol:
 

bobmar28

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NSW has AFL on NITV?
In QLD it always seems to have an Aboriginal RL game or carnival on when I switch over to it.

NEAFL, I have seen it a couple of times. One was a Darwin team-no crowd that I could see. Might have been in Cairns.
Plenty of other AFL related stories on NITV. I often tune in to the Murri carnival/Knockout.
 

RoosTah

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Once upon a time the Fumble Fairy was inspecting the gloryholes in the MCG boggers when he came across an ugly troll who was crying.

"What's wrong?" said the Fumble Fairy.

"The Rugby League King was mean to me," wailed the hideous beast. "When I told him I wanted to buy his sport for a handful of magic beans he told me to f**k off. All I ever wanted was to gut his sport and f**k its corpse so I could get the TV rights for nothing. I don't know why he doesn't like me."

The Fumble Fairy frowned and replied, "Never fear my sweet hideous little monster. I will grant you a magic wish. If you give me hundreds of millions of dollars for something you were going to buy anyway, I will help slay the King."

"Haven't you been trying to do that for the past 30 years," replied the miserable little merkin.

"Yeah but now you can help me by getting your hacks to write shitty articles in the Daily Telegraph."

The ugly troll smiled. "Gee whiz, I never thought of that before. Thanks Fumble Fairy."

One week later the troll died from syphilis contracted from an Asian prostitute.

The End

Posts like this make me wish this page had a rep system lol.
 

Eddie Lab

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roy's opinion on the deal

When ARLC chairman John Grant and his chief executive Dave Smith strode confidently into Catalina restaurant in Rose Bay on August 11, their hosts were shocked they would have the gall to appear.
The pair had accepted an invitation to attend a lunch as part of a VIP gathering where News Corporation boss, Rupert Murdoch, would speak.
Yet earlier the previous day, as Murdoch's jet touched down in Sydney, an ARLC press release announced a $925m five year deal for Channel Nine to broadcast four NRL games per week plus State of Origin from 2018.
It blindsided almost everyone, including Fox Sports boss Patrick Delany, who had not received the customary phone call warning him his free-to-air partner in the existing NRL rights deal had effectively divorced him.
Murdoch's executives were furious their 100 per cent owned pay TV company had been frozen out, with one half jokingly suggesting the seating plan at the restaurant be reconfigured to place Grant and Smith adjacent to the restaurant's "shit house door."
It was the second time the Murdochs had been shunned.
Rupert's son, Lachlan, when boss of Channel Ten, was confident he would secure the 2013-17 NRL free-to-air rights but was beaten by the Nine/Fox Sports consortium which paid $1.025 billion in last minute furious negotiations where News Limited was forced to surrender its first and last rights hold over the game, effective to 2027.
It was a costly loss for News who had spent over a billion dollars fighting a three-year Super League war to win the first and last rights to 2022 and had them extended to 2027 as a condition of its exit from the NRL when the ARLC was formed under Grant.
It helped cost News Ltd's then chief executive, Kim Williams, his job but, ironically, he has re-appeared as an AFL commissioner where he was publicly thanked by AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan for his role in negotiating Tuesday's announced $2.508 billion six-year broadcasting deal with News Corporation, Seven West Media and Telstra.
Enmities are put aside in business and rugby league when the parties re-enter the same tent, as we found when Wayne Bennett convinced Lachlan he should return to coach the Broncos, despite the master coach's oft expressed view he was "off" with News.
Ditto a smiling Seven Media boss Kerry Stokes, who bitterly challenged News Ltd in court over its alleged role in the closure of C7, yet joined with Rupert at Tuesday's AFL press conference.
The ARLC will be hoping the next two years will see a similar tempering of relations with News Corporation in order to sell the remaining four NRL games per week to Fox Sports for a fee which brings the total value of the 2018-22 rights to $2 billion.
It is unlikely it will reach the AFL's $2.508 billion, even allowing for the fact this deal is for six years, not five and the AFL has an additional game - nine compared to the NRL's eight - to sell.
Murdoch's executives were so embittered over being blindsided by the Nine/NRL deal, they resolved to do a joint free-to-air/pay TV AFL deal, with Foxtel paying an amount which more than doubles the $625m they currently pay.
The total rights deal is an amount they calculate Grant and Smith cannot equal.
This was reflected at Tuesday's press conference where Murdoch senior said "we have always preferred Aussie Rules", despite fighting a war to half own rugby league and maintaining its 67 per cent control of the NRL's premier club, the Brisbane Broncos.
It is likely News Corporation's Australian mastheads, particularly Brisbane's Courier Mail, will join an aggressive push to promote AFL, with chief executive Robert Thomson, repeating his vow at Tuesday's AFL press conference to "see its (AFL's) reach extended particularly in NSW and Queensland."
Hell hath no fury like a media mogul scorned, with the ARLC blindside tackle gifting the code's main rival $500m.
Nevertheless, the ARL commissioners are confident Fox Sports will be forced to do a deal, even though the courteous Delany is no longer talking to them.
Fox Sports needs NSW and Queensland to maintain its subscription base and faces massive churn if it loses NRL.
Newcastle and the Hunter Valley – entrenched rugby league territory - are equal in population to Adelaide and Perth combined.
The ARLC is determined to reach more households via its expanded free-to-air cover of four games a week, while the AFL is headed in the opposite direction with 3.5 of its nine games on Seven.
Smith also has a further two years to do a deal, while the AFL had to get theirs finalised, with the existing contract concluding at the end of 2016.
Media technology is developing rapidly and there are alternatives if Fox Sports does not take up an offer of eight live NRL games per week, with four simulcast with Nine.
Furthermore, the ARLC is committed to controlling its own games schedule and will seek a subscription partnership which guarantees this.
And Smith knows that wherever people watch sport, in their loungeroom, a crowded bar, a mobile phone or a tablet, he has a game to sell which confines all the action to a box shaped screen.
 
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Love the fact that Smith and Grant are giving it to them after the game being screwed for years by News. Exactly the kind of leadership this game has been yearning for, even though lots probably don't realise that yet.

RL is standing on its own two feet and old wrinkly Murdoch isn't liking it. Go and get f**ked you evil merkin, you need us more than we need you.
 

Haffa

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How many pubs and clubs in QLD and NSW would retain an already expensive Foxtel subscription if they dropped Rugby League?

As Roy points out the Hunter beats out Adelaide and Perth. The number of pubs with foxtel in that area would make that a huge loss.
 

docbrown

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When he says jokingly suggested that's just being polite. It was deadly serious.

Imagine if you were in the middle of a business negotiation and you found out the other side wanted to sit you near the shitters just to put you in your place. 'Joking' or not.

News Hacks keep calling the NRL's lack of a phone call disrespectful. They didn't make a big grandstand. They didn't drag Gyngell out and parade him. It was all very low key. Hell they didn't even reference let alone negatively reference the AFL, News or the other parties at all.

That's called class.
 

Haffa

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When he says jokingly suggested that's just being polite. It was deadly serious.

Imagine if you were in the middle of a business negotiation and you found out the other side wanted to sit you near the shitters just to put you in your place. 'Joking' or not.

News Hacks keep calling the NRL's lack of a phone call disrespectful. They didn't make a big grandstand. They didn't drag Gyngell out and parade him. It was all very low key. Hell they didn't even reference let alone negatively reference the AFL, News or the other parties at all.

That's called class.

This.

And whats with Delaney no longer talking to them? How pathetic is that?!
 

Perth Red

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Newcastle and the Hunter Valley – entrenched rugby league territory - are equal in population to Adelaide and Perth combined.


Really? 3mill people live in regional NSW in total, how is that bigger than the Perth (2million) and Adelaide (1.25 million) combined population?

Mind you front page of the West today had the AFL $2.5bill trumping the NRL "$1.7billion" deal like the NRL deal had been done. Media just make sht up here!
 

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When he says jokingly suggested that's just being polite. It was deadly serious.

Imagine if you were in the middle of a business negotiation and you found out the other side wanted to sit you near the shitters just to put you in your place. 'Joking' or not.

News Hacks keep calling the NRL's lack of a phone call disrespectful. They didn't make a big grandstand. They didn't drag Gyngell out and parade him. It was all very low key. Hell they didn't even reference let alone negatively reference the AFL, News or the other parties at all.

That's called class.

Nine told fox they wouldn't be doing a joint bid weeks ago, surely that would have rung alarm bells at fox sports to get on the front foot with negotiations.
 

Edwahu

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Really? 3mill people live in regional NSW in total, how is that bigger than the Perth (2million) and Adelaide (1.25 million) combined population?

Mind you front page of the West today had the AFL $2.5bill trumping the NRL "$1.7billion" deal like the NRL deal had been done. Media just make sht up here!

He must've been thinking of subscribers. Even old Roy isn't that senile yet.
 
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