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Whilst I can see Tv stations getting their T*ts in a knot over this,and that is yet to play out,I see further competitive tension for the next NRL TV negotiations.That is a huge plus.

Based on the number of minutes of streaming AFL/NRL 45 million of which the NRL's 25m is more than half,it shows the NRL at worst should secure the same as the AFL here,or at best more based on demand historically.

It appears Smith must have been aware of the streaming facts and that further helped in the admin's decision making to bring the Tv negotiations forwards by one year,so the AFL would not get an easy passage,and we would get "our deserved pound of flesh".

The more I read in the press ,the more I believe the NRL will sh*t it in ,on a minimum $1.5bn over 5 years.

our season started a month earlier, but their games are longer- counting mins watched is hard to gauge
 

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4.5% ????Current deal about$200m pa (total 5 years $1bn plus).Rough estimates considering full actuals not advertised.

$1.5bn=$300m pa .In my book that amounts to about 50% increase.Either that or my math's teacher was speaking with his mouth full.Especially when yu add in Sky NZ.

hes talking about the total rights deal, $1b was only Nine/Fox Sports, with telstra & SkyNZ included it's closer to $1.250b
 

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hes talking about the total rights deal, $1b was only Nine/Fox Sports, with telstra & SkyNZ included it's closer to $1.250b

i'm talking TV deal only,not including Telstra digital nor Sky News.
And really also talking min $1.5bn over 5 years.That's why is used the term sh*tting it in".

Even allowing for those figures $1.25b=$250m pa.
And using $1.5bn= $300m pa
Difference $50m pa= 20% increase on last deal conservatively.

Not trying to be pedantic but his 4.5% increase based on a $1.25b over 5 years =$56m increase or not much more than $10m pa.

Many media pundits are predicting a decent increase but can't see it over $1.7bn.And yes they have been proved wrong in the past,hence Telstra and the streaming factor.
 

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our season started a month earlier, but their games are longer- counting mins watched is hard to gauge

Agree with you 100% ,so assuming both about the same,the NRL should crack no less than the fumbling institute.
More so when the NRL has the balls,to expand by another two teams.
 

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i'm talking TV deal only,not including Telstra digital nor Sky News.
And really also talking min $1.5bn over 5 years.That's why is used the term sh*tting it in".

Even allowing for those figures $1.25b=$250m pa.
And using $1.5bn= $300m pa
Difference $50m pa= 20% increase on last deal conservatively.

Not trying to be pedantic but his 4.5% increase based on a $1.25b over 5 years =$56m increase or not much more than $10m pa.

Many media pundits are predicting a decent increase but can't see it over $1.7bn.And yes they have been proved wrong in the past,hence Telstra and the streaming factor.
I think we are getting mixed up with compound interest. A 4.5% p.a. increase over 5 years is 1.045^5 -1 = 24.6% over the full 5 years. Your $56m is just the increase from 1 year ($1.25b x 4.5%). And yes, I was starting my calcs with a rough estimate of the current total deal of $1.2b.
 

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If all three FTA networks are interested in the rights is there a chance that we could sell to all three and piss rupert off altogether?
 

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I think we are getting mixed up with compound interest. A 4.5% p.a. increase over 5 years is 1.045^5 -1 = 24.6% over the full 5 years. Your $56m is just the increase from 1 year ($1.25b x 4.5%). And yes, I was starting my calcs with a rough estimate of the current total deal of $1.2b.

Yep that is what I was working on.
I'm just comparing the totality of the deal over 5 years.Just as I compared the 6 years with Galloping Gallop $500m with the current deal over 5 years.And the fumblers $780m over 5 years.
Of course CPI is important.
IMO the deal regardless of what method we use,if the NRL cannot crack a minimum $1.5bn over 5 years,plus the Telstra/Sky deal,they are kidding or haven't a clue.
 
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Problem is considering Channel 10's parlous financial state you'd want the money up front from them otherwise it may be a repeat of 1991 all over again.
 

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Fox gives the best covg, they had better not drop them! If anything I want to see every game live on Fox competing with the FTA's for viewers. Might make the fta's lift their game to something like a professional 21st standard.
 

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Whenever the media report the NRL's Telstra number they don't add in the fact they get a cut of all sales in addition to the $75 million. :roll:

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The NRL need to debundle the games naming rights as well. That's costing us $10mill a year.
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...354052079?nk=8e90cf9b3d00b1ac0d8a7b50f2006d43

Nine scraps Warner Bros deal to keep league rights

The Australian
May 14, 2015 12:00AM

Nine Network has ditched its cash-sapping programming deal with US studio Warner Bros to provide a buffer for retaining rugby league’s TV rights as the code targets a record-breaking contract.

The free-to-air broadcaster has become the first Australian commercial network to negotiate a noncommittal output agreement with a US studio, putting a vast back catalogue of Australian rights to popular TV shows in play at the annual upfronts in New York this week.

The big US networks present advertisers with their schedules for the autumn season at the TV upfronts presentations.

The deal with Warner Bros Television is the biggest in the Australian industry, worth an estimated $100 million a year.

Under a restructured deal, Nine has retained the right to broadcast new series of licensed shows such as The Big Bang Theory while they are still being produced by Warner Bros.

But Nine has waived the right to broadcast repeats of shows like The Big Bang Theory,Two And A Half Men and 2 Broke Girls, although it can still pick them up through spot-buying on the open market.

Ten seasons of The Big Bang Theory are said to be attracting strong interest from the Ten and Seven networks as well as Foxtel.

Nine can also bid for repeats of The Big Bang Theory and is said to be the favourite because Warner Bros does not want to split the show between two *networks.

After years of signing output deals, whereby a network agrees to buy all shows produced by a studio, Australian networks have allowed deals to lapse and instead signed “volume deals”.

Seven now has a cherry-pick deal with Sony, which means it is required to buy a minimum number of US network prime-time shows produced by the studio, but Nine’s decision to terminate the Warner Bros agreement takes the trend a step further.

After decades of supplying ratings hits such as Lost and *Desperate Housewives, the pendulum has swung the other way as local broadcasters realise US programs cannot be amortised cheaply and the hit rate becomes lower amid an explosion in *entertainment options for *consumers.

The news comes after The Australian revealed last month that the National Rugby League has made plans for a record billion-dollar media rights deal, bringing forward negotiations by a year in a surprise move to blindside the AFL, which is on the brink of selling its rights.

With broadcasters paying more than ever for exclusive rights, because the immediacy of fixtures and fan loyalty ensure big live audiences, Nine is facing fierce competition from other networks to retain its prized top-tier winter sport.

Bidding for rights will become even fiercer in the coming months after the NRL signalled its intention to consider packaging the rights, and splitting them between more than one free-to-air broadcaster.
 

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El D.beat me to the draw.Bugger..........

Know much of it is a rehash,but the fact 9 wants more cash in the kitty ,by stiff arming Warner Bros,shows the NRL will be in for a big pay day.
Hope 7 gets SOO
10 gets Monday night and/or Friday night,9 with Friday night and sunday arvo all live.
Fox the rest.it probably won't happen that way,with Foxtel grabbing a fair slab,as they have the loot to do so.
 
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Could end up with G Hughes or Vossy.I agree Wilson and Massed would drive me to drink.

Wilson's sister was on Sky last night,geez she is an obnoxious ,know all
 
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