Next TV rights deal

[FlameThrower]

I thought NRL was considering splitting the games, say Origin conked be sold to C10 or C7 - with normal season games / finals as a package and rep games as another.
Bottom line, next TV deal must have 'live' FTA in HD. Fri/ Sat and Sunday. Plus a proper plan to broadcast into other States in reasonable viewing time! I'd also suggest a commitment to magazine type shows not the rubbish we get on Footy Show.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

The difference between broadcast revenue of the two codes under their current rights agreements is only like 13M annually or 65m over 5 years, the difference in next deals are likely to be negligible, especially considering the NRL f&l has been removed. So a 100M p.a. difference is not going to happen.

Yep, there was suggestion that, if they didnt have the F&L to bargain away, 9 and Fox would have had to go as high as $1.6bil...

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

i would think starting the bidding process for the AFL rights after this years granny is pretty early. they don't begin until 2017. has there been enough value added to allow a clear projection of growth in the rights? what happens if the next two years turns to shit?

They dont have to sign yet, just begin talks...

Honestly, id rather see the ARLC begin in a similar time frame to the VFL. Obviously, with the extra year, they shouldnt sign very soon. Just giving bidders an idea of whats on offer.

Id hate to see 10 bid everything on the VFL because they werent sure they could get the NRL package....

 

[insert.pause]

ARU are going to struggle to improve much in their upcoming broadcast deal after the wallabies bombed spectacularly last night in the ratings, didn't even make top 20 shows and left ten beaten by secondary channel GO.

Ouch!

 

[RL The greatest game]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/te...l-rights-in-2018/story-fndujljl-1226832057506

I think we can expect to be close to $2 billion with the next TV deal.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/foxtel_shake_up_aims_to_capture_HIAR8hpDOq1yYqASVxn6fK

Foxtel shake-up aims to capture more sports fans
PUBLISHED: 15 hours 55 MINUTES AGO | UPDATE: 15 hours 55 MINUTES AGO

John Stensholt

Fox Sports Australia chief executive Patrick Delany believes changes to *Foxtel’s pricing structure are a game changer for the pay TV sports network he heads.

Foxtel last week moved to drop the pricing for its subscription packages in the hope of lifting penetration in *Australian homes to more than 30 per cent, a figure unchanged for several years.

Foxtel’s sports package will cost $25 in addition to the basic $25 package, meaning an overall drop of about $20 to $25 for current sports customers.

Fox Sports also announced a revamp of their channel line-up, ditching the Speed and Fuel channels in favour of Fox Sports 4 and 5, adding three channels to its network.

“The main thing with those small channels was that people were really only going there if there were hardcore fans of those sports [motor sports and adventure sports],” Mr Delany said. “This will change that and we will have some flexibility in putting sports across the channels now. You will be able to record things on IQ and you won’t have situations any more where you would have had, say, a Queensland Reds rugby game on the Speed channel.”

He said the new channel line-up, which also includes the existing Fox Footy AFL and Fox Sports News *channels, would gain further *enhancements with the introduction of the new IQ3 system next year. The broadband-wifi-based system will be a hybrid of broadcast television and *on-screen information.

In terms of sports, Delany said the new system would bring an overhaul of what would be available via the red *button on Foxtel remotes, which is now used to flick between additional *broadcast matches (which cannot be recorded) and the news channel.

The new system could potentially, for example, allow viewers to change camera angles during matches or access statistical information. In motor racing – Fox Sports gains the rights to the V8Supercars circuit next year – viewers could be able to choose to watch particular drivers or cameras mounted in certain cars instead of choosing the normal broadcast.

“We’ve already done some things with it, including golf,” Mr Delany said.

“All of our golf rights come with these digital rights. So with the US *Masters this year, we were able to show multiple players or groups, and also Amen Corner [holes 11-13 at Augusta].”

He said five sports channels would allow for greater promotion across sports. For example, if the NRL and the V8s attracted the same audience, both could be shown on the same channel.

Mr Delany said the network had already had success in keeping audiences after live matches with panel shows such as Ed and Derm’s Big Week in Footy and Monday Night with Matty Johns. “Where it could take it is, instead of *having the audience for 90 minutes . . . maybe you could hold them for five or six hours across a day.”

He said NRL ratings for the network had recovered in recent weeks in the run-up to the finals series and AFL *ratings had been strong for Fox Sports, which also holds live rights to the *current finals series.

 

[Starkers]

interesting jockeying for positions going on i think. fox reducing their price is a big thing - it has to effect the end number they put to both AFL and NRL. and surely NRL presents better value. we shall see.

 

[juro]

perth red - well i don't know exactly where all the money comes from, but just on tv rights, their total media rights package was $1.256b over 5 years (i think?). that's $251.2m per year or just under $14m per club. next year the afl salary cap is increasing to $10m http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-05/salary-cap-safeguards-for-players-confirmed

now, that article is suggesting the upper limit for media rights will be a 10 year $4b deal, which is $400m per season and about $22m per club ... or a 60% rise on the current deal for a ten year period, with 10-20% of that being due to the tenure of the contract.

fanciful i think, given they get 650k FTA and ch7 seems to be paying the bulk, but if it happened it would be f**ken huge. god help us.

But would it be just a straight split of $400m per season? There would be a big boost in the first year, followed by no growth over the following 9. You'd think they would backload it a bit to allow for some inflation growth. Say start at $300m in the first year, increasing by $20m per year.

 

[Starkers]

yeah they'd probably stagger it over the course of 10 seasons, meaning the cap towards the end would be even higher. either way i think it's a long shot, but very keen to see the next bidding cycle for both codes.

 

[Billythekid]

My only concern is how the last deal will affect us. The AFL definitely got a better deal in terms of coverage. Being simulcast on fox and FTA will surely give them a decent ratings boost overall. Hopefully we can use that to show how we can potentially offer growth next time around.

I also think we should be trying to prevent how many games overlap. We should be trying to get rid of the second Friday night game and the 2nd 7.30 game on Saturday night. Both are ratings stinkers and are holding us back imo. That plus i think Friday night has actually been hurt by having 2 matches. It should be the match of the round, we shouldn't be encouraging people to tune out if the match isn't there exact team. We want to get more people tuning in because it's the match of the round and it's a Friday night.

 

[DC_fan]

NRL suffers another hit as TV ratings down for the second year in a row



The NRL has also failed to reach its crowd target of 16,500 for this season, recording a 15,900 average that was almost identical to last year’s attendance result.

The Daily Telegraph yesterday obtained the final TV ratings figures for the 26-round regular season, which reveal significant drops for all three official broadcasters — Channel Nine, Fox Sports, and Sky New Zealand.


Even the NRL’s big names haven’t been able to stop the ratings slide.
With fans increasingly turning to social and digital media, Nine’s lost an estimated 2.3 million viewers across all free-to-air slots for competition matches. That equates to a seven per cent slump on last year, which, in turn, was down 3.8 per cent on 2012.

Pay TV ratings are slipping away even faster, with NRL audiences for Fox Sports games on Saturday, Sunday and Monday down 10 per cent — a loss of 1 million sets of eyeballs across the regular season. The downward spiral continued from last year, when Fox Sports ratings suffered an 8.5 per cent slide from 2012.

And in New Zealand, where the Warriors failed to make the finals for the third straight season, ratings were down a whopping 21 per cent from 12 months ago.

The great irony of back-to-back seasons of plummeting ratings is their coincidence with code’s richest-ever broadcast deal — a five-year contract worth $1.025 billion. With television audiences down across the board thanks to the rise of new media, the pattern looks set to continue for the term of the contract, placing a major question mark over the NRL’s ability to match the current price when the current rights expire at the end of 2017.

Live attendances have also suffered somewhat this season.

Despite the figures, NRL marketing boss Paul Kind remains confident the game will continue to attract big dollars from the networks because it as a guaranteed ratings winner when compared to other entertainment categories such as drama and reality TV.

“The value of live sport will be just as important — if not more important — in the future,” Kind said.

“It’s hard for any broadcaster to generate big numbers on a regular base. These figures might be less than what they were, but they are still very big compared to what people are watching for the rest of the week.

“For both Nine and Fox Sports, live sport is a fundamental part of their business. The trend around individual numbers might be changing, but what won’t change is how important live sport is to those networks.”

Acknowledging that less people were watching TV, Kind said Nine had concentrated more on audience share for its NRL broadcasts, as opposed to surpassing the numbers of yesteryear. With the help of a late burst via Thursday night football, audience share had remained stable from 2013.

“That was significant for them,” Kind said. “They needed the back end of the year to pull through for it to be a ratings success and it was.

“There’s a trend around television with fewer people watching — that’s our read on the free-to-air space. But when you throw Origin into the mix, and a successful finals series, I think Nine will be satisfied.”

State of Origin remains a huge pull for live and TV audiences.

Kind said Fox Sport’s ratings on Monday night had suffered, because the network had chosen to screen its first choice on Super Saturday, which runs for nine straight hours on most weekends. To balance the bloodshed, The Matty Johns Show — broadcast post-game on Monday nights — has been a hit.

Asked about the erosive effect of social and digital media on the NRL’s television ratings, Kind replied: “It’s probably a factor for all of TV. Digital and social media are alternative ways for people to take rugby league in, but it’s still too early to measure the exact effect it's had

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nd-year-in-a-row/story-fnp0lyn3-1227054536927

 

[DC_fan]

Crowd and TV numbers down, not a really good sign for any sport. But in saying that TV as a form of entertainment is dying.

League fans are finding other ways to watch the game.

 

[DC_fan]

I think we can expect to be close to $2 billion with the next TV deal.

Then maybe not
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nd-year-in-a-row/story-fnp0lyn3-1227054536927

I think we need to realise that TV is a dying breed on how to transmit our game. People are just not watching TV consistently in the same numbers they once did.

 

[El Diablo]

Josh didn't put SOO in his article

didn't suit his agenda

this is the same grub who lied to the Mannah family

 

[no name]

Persisting with a f**king delayed telecast on Sunday afternoon can't be helping 9's ratings.

 

[Canard]

The DT keeps ignoring the ability to watch the game on an app.

I watch about 75% of all games on this now. It's only 90 bucks per season. So there is no justifying getting FOX for me.

I reckon significant numbers are watching it via this platform these days.

 

[Starkers]

it's bash up rugby league day again i think. seems a concerted effort across news and fairfax. rothfield and the sharkies as well as fitzy telling us that matt giteau's union deal is the death of league.

i dunno, i give up. we should be talking about semi finals and all they want to write is the other shit.

 

[Starkers]

just on the TV numbers, can't argue with facts. i guess it becomes incumbent upon the broadcasters to begin integrating more social media into their telecasts. as much as i hate the stuff, having a few twitter feeds interspersed within the coverage would boost things you'd imagine. either that or there seems to be a new app made for tv each month that they could try.

it's s broken record as well, but the commentators surely need refreshing. i can't imagine what a 15 year old thinks when he listens to ray warren or ray hadley. 20 years ago they were relate-able. now, just irrelevant and stupid, bordering on vaudeville. i think it was perth red who mentioned a recent game by voss. i watched that and thought the same.

it's probably a bit like how i feel reading print media now. so tiring and regrettable.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

The DT keeps ignoring the ability to watch the game on an app.

I watch about 75% of all games on this now. It's only 90 bucks per season. So there is no justifying getting FOX for me.

I reckon significant numbers are watching it via this platform these days.

Likewise. Fox got the boot from me awhile ago. I found other legal methods to get league, TV, movies etc for half the cost of Foxtel and I actually get to chose what I want when I want without being forced to pay for channels I'll never watch.

 

[Canard]

Why do the let this f**kwits articles on the League HQ site?

You can bet your arse that they wouldn't let a Union bashing article on the Union site, or an AFL bashing article.

It's a laughable story, f**king laughable. 1 player got $1.4M so that means League is stuffed. He reluctantly mentions that the ARU is f**ked but then tries to spin it that 32 year olds getting big money in France is boon for Australia.

And then quotes some Frog who says "International games are always better than domestic ones"!

Its pricks like this that make League fans hate Unionites.