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NFL Draft Season 2019

shiznit

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Interesting... I think Gruden will be really keen on this kid...

I get the feeling if Arizona don’t take him at #1... Gruden is going to be f**king crazy tempted to take this kid.

Hopefully Mayock provides some sense...

Having said that... if both Gruden and Mayock think the kid is going to be better than Carr... they need to move on.

I know the 9ers are hoping like hell Murray goes #1... :joy::joy:
 

nick87

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Interesting... I think Gruden will be really keen on this kid...

I get the feeling if Arizona don’t take him at #1... Gruden is going to be f**king crazy tempted to take this kid.

Hopefully Mayock provides some sense...

Having said that... if both Gruden and Mayock think the kid is going to be better than Carr... they need to move on.

I know the 9ers are hoping like hell Murray goes #1... :joy::joy:

I’ll be f**king STUNNED if the raiders take this dude. Mayock has always come across to me as a subtle size snob. He’s always spoken with tepid excitement about small QBs
He’s going to talk Jon out of it, particularly with dudes like Tua, Fromm and Sunshine on the come up

They’ll move Carr this year or next. And it think this Simmons injury is perfect for them. Take him with the Dallas pick, stash him
You stink next year and then hopefully get the franchise and an elite talent back (fully healthy because Simmons will be 18 months off by then) in yr 1 of LV
 

Eelectrica

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As long as the Dolphins don't burn a high draft pick on him. Yes we need a new QB, not sure that Murray is the one we're looking for.

Need a decent O-line first. Pick up a QB in the 2020 draft. We're going to have an Arizona/raiders like season next year anyway.
 

nick87

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Anyone done any mocks or leaving it till closer to the draft?
the only thing im sure of right now is that the Raiders are going to take Simmons with either the Bears or Cowboys pick

they dont want to be good next year anyways, they can red shirt him... he's a top 7 talent minimum, the raiders dont mind character issues, and they've got picks to spare and a need at DT. It's a perfect marriage imo
 

shiznit

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Anyone done any mocks or leaving it till closer to the draft?
I haven’t done a deep enough dive into this draft class tbh...

I’d just be talking a total lot of horseshit if I did a mock now...

Well... more horseshit than I usually spout about the draft anyway... :joy::joy:

You guys go for it though... I’m gonna probably wait until atleast the combine before I do a mock... just don’t watch enough college football TBH...
 

shiznit

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This is probably the closest we will get to a Mayock conference call this draft season...

Obviously this is Raiders centric... but he does talk abit about the league overall...
 

nick87

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Holy f**k... i dont know if it translate to the NFL, and those 3 cone and shuttle times would be a major red flag for me, the only dude who's panned out with that is Dre Hopkins... but what a f**king specimen.

Stud
 

shiznit

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Todd Mcshay’s first Mock since the Comine...
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We saw lots of speed, strength and power at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis as prospects for the 2019 NFL draft jockey for first-round status. And with it, there's some more movement in projecting the opening 32 picks.

Players now have one more shot to show what they've got on the field at their schools' pro days, taking place over the next few weeks. Then teams will have to figure out how they grade each player and how those players fit within their systems as we race toward April 25, when names will be called in Nashville, Tennessee.

Let's take another turn through all 32 first-round picks for 2019. And for a deeper look into each selection, tune into ESPN and the ESPN App at 5 p.m. ET Wednesday for a SportsCenter special going through my picks.

1) Arizona Cardinals: Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma

We can't deny the rumblings here, and we know new coach Kliff Kingsbury recruited Murray in college. I'm not all-in on Arizona taking him just yet, though -- the Cards could be trying generate trade interest among the QB-needy teams. Still, the just-tall-enough Murray is a perfect fit to help Kingsbury transition the Air Raid offense to the NFL, and this pick makes sense from a scheme standpoint with all Murray's athleticism. Now, what could the Cardinals get for Josh Rosen?

2. San Francisco 49ers: Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State

The Niners will be hunting for pass-rushers this offseason, and getting the best overall player in the class at No. 2 would be a fantastic start. Bosa has length, speed and power from the edge, and it's fathomable that the Buckeye paces San Francisco's defensive line in sacks as a rookie. He's that good.

3) New York Jets: Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

The Jets need defensive linemen as new coordinator Gregg Williams transitions to a 4-3 scheme, and the Alabama tackle fits perfectly as an interior pass-rusher who can also stop the run. Williams was incredible at the combine, and his quick first step would be a force on the inside for Gang Green.

4) Oakland Raiders: Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky

When you manage just 13 sacks -- a league low, and 17 fewer than the next-worse team -- you'd best be looking for pass-rushers. Allen himself out-sacked the Raiders in 2018, recording 17 coming off the edge for Kentucky. If the Jets don't take him at No. 3, he fits a big need here.

5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State

If you set a combine record for the fastest 40-yard dash for a defensive lineman (4.41 seconds at 260 pounds), you're going to make some money. Sweat has a ton of upside, and Tampa Bay badly needs difference-makers on defense. But there's also a very real possibility that the Bucs trade back with a team looking for a quarterback, and taking the best available offensive lineman -- perhaps Jawaan Taylor -- makes sense in that scenario.

6) New York Giants: Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State

Another mock, another Haskins-to-the-Giants projection. It just makes sense. New York needs to secure its future at the position while it has this high pick, and Haskins has some great anticipation and feel in the pocket. Give him a year of learning from Eli Manning, not unlike what Kansas City did with Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith, and then let him start unleashing deep balls to Odell Beckham Jr.

7) Jacksonville Jaguars: Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida

With Nick Foles expected to come to Florida, the Jags need to beef up the offensive line to protect their new quarterback and create some holes for Leonard Fournette. Taylor's mobility, power and quickness would be welcomed in the trenches. He is a starting right tackle on Day 1.

8) Detroit Lions: Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan

The Lions need edge rushers with Ezekiel Ansah entering free agency. Gary had a good week at the combine, showing his athleticism and explosiveness. A lack of production in college might cause him to fall out of the top five, but if he is coached properly, the talent and skill set are there to be a stellar disruptor.

9) Buffalo Bills: D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss

He's an absolute monster at 6-foot-3 with ridiculous strength and 4.33 40 speed. Metcalf specializes in running the 9 route, and Josh Allen has the big arm to get him the ball. It's been a while since Buffalo had a real receiving talent like Metcalf, but don't sleep on the offensive line here, either. A good chunk of that unit will enter free agency.

10) Denver Broncos: Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama

Denver has to upgrade the offensive line, and Williams is an experienced starter who would immediately provide an improvement at right tackle. New starter Joe Flacco is going to need protection, and Williams can handle speed off the edge with his quick feet.

11) Cincinnati Bengals: Devin White, ILB, LSU

There are a lot of needs here, but White is a three-down 'backer who can play sideline to sideline. He's one of my top prospects in the class and really impressed at the combine. The Bengals need a quarterback of the defense, and the value for White is tremendous outside of the top 10.

12) Green Bay Packers: T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa

Yes, the Packers re-signed Jimmy Graham, but he is 32 years old and his production has declined. Hockenson combines size, speed and strength at the position, and he would give Aaron Rodgers a real weapon in the passing game.

13) Miami Dolphins: Drew Lock, QB, Missouri

If the Ryan Tannehill era is indeed coming to a close, Lock would give new offensive coordinator Chad O'Shea a quarterback to develop. Lock has great mobility and arm strength, even though he needs some work with mechanics and ball placement.

14) Atlanta Falcons: Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

Putting Wilkins right next to Grady Jarrett, who was franchise-tagged by the Falcons, would help fix a run defense that allowed nearly 5 yards per carry last season. Wilkins is an explosive interior player who was a four-year starter for the defending national champs.

15) Washington Redskins: Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

No change from my previous mock, as the speedy Brown heads to the nation's capital. Washington will be looking for improvements in multiple areas, but adding a burner would open up this offense. Brown has good hands and can outrun just about anyone.

16) Carolina Panthers: Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson

Carolina dropped opposing quarterbacks for a sack only 35 times in 2018. Free agency is one way to handle that, but Ferrell has very good physicality and quick hands at the point of contact. He'd be a presence on the edge for the Panthers after running up 11.5 sacks with Clemson last season.
 

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17) Cleveland Browns: Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State

Dillard showed off elite athleticism for the position at the combine. He is a superb pass-protector who also has the range to cut off linebackers at the second level. And the Browns will be looking for a young left tackle to help protect Baker Mayfield's blind side for years to come.

18) Minnesota Vikings: Ed Oliver, DT, Houston

Value, value, value. Oliver is one of the top 10 players in the class. So although offensive line is more glaring immediate need here, the Vikes could plug Oliver into the middle of that defensive line between Everson Griffen and Danielle Hunter and create headaches for offensive coordinators. He's a perfect replacement for free agent Sheldon Richardson.

19) Tennessee Titans: Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State

I think Bradbury is the best, most NFL-ready interior offensive lineman in the class. Ben Jones has played guard before, so the Titans could move him over and slide Bradbury in at center to drastically improve this unit. He has some athleticism and power in the middle.

20) Pittsburgh Steelers: Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan

Pittsburgh hasn't been able to replace Ryan Shazier in the middle of that linebacker group. We've seen Bush go sideline to sideline with Michigan, but his 4.43 40 time at the combine really drove home just how fast this kid is. He's an every-down talent and would fit in nicely with an already strong defense.

21) Seattle Seahawks: Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State

Frank Clark is coming back to Seattle on the franchise tag, but the Seahawks still need a tackle in the middle next to Jarran Reed. On talent alone, Simmons competes with the best of the class. But there are some off-the-field concerns, and now the necessary recovery from a recent torn ACL.

22) Baltimore Ravens: Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama

How do you make a dual-threat quarterback like Lamar Jackson even scarier? Put an explosive three-down running back like Jacobs next to him in the shotgun. Jacobs was never a full-time starter at Alabama, so he has a lot of tread left on the tires -- and a whole lot of pop out of the backfield.

23) Houston Texans: Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

The secondary is going to have some holes, and I do like the idea of Dexter Lawrence plugging the middle of Romeo Crennel's 3-4 defense. But the Texans allowed 62 sacks last season, the league high by six. Full stop. Ford is a big mauler who would help keep franchise QB Deshaun Watson off his back, and he could play tackle or guard.

24) Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears): Byron Murphy, CB, Washington

After addressing the pass rush with Allen at No. 4, the Raiders could look for a ball hawk in the secondary here. Murphy's football intelligence and fast eyes would make him a good fit in Paul Guenther's defensive scheme.

25) Philadelphia Eagles: Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple

We all know the Eagles want to fix the secondary, and while the Philly faithful might be clamoring for Greedy Williams here, I like Ya-Sin's full skill toolbox. He impressed me at the combine and deserves first-round consideration.

26) Indianapolis Colts: Taylor Rapp, S, Washington

With a pretty good group of safeties out there on the free-agent market, the Colts could opt to address it there. But with Matt Eberflus' 4-3 featuring under Cover 2 and Tampa 2 components, Indy will be looking for speed and versatility. Rapp checks those boxes.

27) Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys): Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State

It'd be poetic for the Raiders to use the exact pick they got for Amari Cooper to add a game-changing wide receiver. Campbell displayed 4.31 speed in Indianapolis and hauled in 90 balls for 12 touchdowns and more than 1,000 yards last season. He'd be an explosive receiver for Derek Carr (or whoever is playing QB for the Raiders) and has the ability to develop a really polished route tree.

28) Los Angeles Chargers: Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

L.A. already has Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram on this defensive line. Now drop in a 342-pound run-stopper with 5.05 speed and high-end athleticism. With multiple members of this unit heading toward free agency, Lawrence would be a great get.

29) Kansas City Chiefs: Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia

Andy Reid has to find a way to improve the secondary, and Baker does a nice job reading routes with terrific instincts in coverage. Only the Bengals allowed more passing yards last season, and Steven Nelson will be a free agent. Once Kansas City gets a corner, it will likely consider a running back in the second or third round.

30. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans Saints): Brian Burns, DE, Florida State

With Clay Matthews and Muhammad Wilkerson looking at free agency, the Pack will want to add a pass-rusher off the edge. Burns dropped the opposition for 10 sacks and 15.5 tackles for loss at Florida State last season.

31) Los Angeles Rams: Noah Fant, TE, Iowa

The Rams scored 32.9 points per game in 2018, second to only the Chiefs. And adding a tight end with 4.51 speed could help keep the offense at that pace. Fant is essentially a big slot receiver, which would create exploitable matchups for Jared Goff and coach Sean McVay on offense. Getting the second Iowa tight end here would be a steal.

32) New England Patriots: Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama

I really wanted to go defensive line here with Trey Flowers, Malcom Brown and Danny Shelton all entering free agency, but there was just no value. Instead, the Alabama tight end would give the Pats an alternative to an aging Rob Gronkowski. But I'd bet that Bill Belichick trades out of the spot to stockpile extra picks.
 

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LU Mock Draft 2019 1.0:

I’ll kick it off...

Pick #1: The Arizona Cardinals select...

Kyler Murray - QB - Oklahoma

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Personally I think they should go Nick Bosa or Quinnen Williams and persevere with Josh Rosen at QB. But from the sounds of things they will be going with the current heismann trophy winner due to his skill set and his suitability to new coach Kliff Kingsbury’s system.

Obviously there are questions over his height... but I think considering his arm, his acccuracy and his athleticism... if you can keep him predominantly in the gun you should really negate any height issues.

As a Raiders fan I’m happy for the cardinals to take him. I think Gruden is enamoured with him and could be tempted to take him at #4... but this way a good defensive playmaker will fall down the board.
 

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25) Philadelphia Eagles: Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple

We all know the Eagles want to fix the secondary, and while the Philly faithful might be clamoring for Greedy Williams here, I like Ya-Sin's full skill toolbox. He impressed me at the combine and deserves first-round consideration.
LOL Why? Mills, Darby, Sidney Jones, Rashul, Le Blanc, Maddox all on the roster.
 

Tom155

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With the 2nd pick the San Francisco 49ers select

Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State

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Best player in the draft, no brainer
 
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shiznit

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Josh Allen or bust for me. The more I see of him, the more I need to see him in silver and black.
I think he will be who we end up with... we may get lucky and a team may try and jump us to get Dwayne Haskins which could force Quinnen Williams down to us... but Josh Allen looks like the guy who we will end up with.
 

shiznit

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At #3 The New York Jets select:

Quinnen Williams - DT - Alabama.

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If Nick Bosa is the number 1 talent in this draft then this guy is 1A.

Absolutely blew the doors off the building at the combine and has the tape and production to match.

I think he’s just as good as Bosa without the durability questions and will be a serious consideration for the Niners at #2 but will likely fall to the Jets at #3 due to fit.

Will form a pretty ferocious interior pass rush with Leonard Williams. The Williams Wall reborn.
 

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